<strong>I remain totally confused by people who say "I just have to have the Nokia" when they look horrible and the UI is god-awful.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I disagree. My Nokia 8290 is a fantastic phone. It looks great, the quality of signal is excellent, and I have no complaints about the UI.
And I've read a lot of good reviews for the Symbian interface on the 7650.
why would it have to be big? If you look at the screen of the 7650, they sould be able to build something significantly smaller around it. It looks like a "Transformer" from the 80s. Both the 3650 and the 6650 seem to be running symbian on smaller phones. And Symbian is scalable right. At least you can run it on bigger screens (like the 9210) so why not on smaller screens?
Looking at my t68i, I can easily imagine it with a bigger screen. the resolution on the 6650 is 128 by 96. The t68i has 101 by 80. The step isn't far... hopefully
I work at a mobile company and we have all kinds of phones floating around here. Here is my take:
Nokia used to rock and there is a reason why they are so succesful. But today they make too many faulty phones. Nokias are double so likely to go bad within the first year than your average GSM phone.
Nokia 7650 is a great phone and symbian is the best current OS for handheld devices (NewtonOS rocks). But it is big and unhandy. And I am a UNIX/OOP/Apple philosophy guy: Have a lot of dedicated tools that handle each function best. So the idea of a camera in a phone is alien to me (like MP3 players were when they arrived). Give me a normal digital camera, an iPod and a 68i and I would be happy.
68i The phone to have. I have tried the 68i compared to the 7650 and despite its more limited functions I would much rather have that.
P800 Its the dream phone right now. Even the Nokia fraction of the company.
<strong>Symbian is truely great, but the phone is still a brick.
When symbian comes out on a phone of "usable" size, I'll be the first on to buy it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
My apologies, New. I got to play with one for the first time today, though the demonstration was a bit limited in that it doesn't support the 1900 frequency.
It is a frickin' brick. And the P800 is bigger.
I just want a new version of the 8290 that has Bluetooth.
[quote]Based on the indifferent response in Japan, 3G video phones appear to be a solution in search of a demand. When was the last time you looked at your mobile phone and thought, "Boy howdy! I'd sure like to pay a buck to watch a trailer for the new 'Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers' movie on this dinky 1-inch color screen"?
On the other hand, 3G mobile phones will revolutionize the phone-sex industry. The sex industry invariably is the first to recognize the commercial possibilities of new technologies -- the printing press, photography, VCRs, videocams, the Internet, and so on -- and videocam-equipped 3G phones are destined to be next in line. I anticipate a new meaning for "flash dialing." If you are alarmed by the way people drive while they are talking on their cellphones today, just wait until the 3G clothing-optional videophones arrive -- you ain't seen nothing yet.<hr></blockquote>
It does bring up an important issue for the new "2.5G" phones though: Will MMS services result in porn companies spamming phones with photos?
[quote]It does bring up an important issue for the new "2.5G" phones though: Will MMS services result in porn companies spamming phones with photos? <hr></blockquote>
Don´t think so. MMS messages aren´t cheap so no spamming of that. But more important: The idea of porn combined with VCRs, magazins, internet etc. is that you can enjoy it in the comfort of your own home. The idea of mobile phones is that you can use it anywhere. Porn and mobile equipment doesn´t mix very well.
"Excuse me miss. I have just recieved my daily "dirty teenbitch"-picture so please tell me the way to your toilet"
"Of course sir. Its just down the hall at you left"
That isn´t the world I want to live in at least.
And I am pretty good at guessing the future in this buisness. I declared WAP dead already four years ago <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>The idea of porn combined with VCRs, magazins, internet etc. is that you can enjoy it in the comfort of your own home. The idea of mobile phones is that you can use it anywhere. Porn and mobile equipment doesn´t mix very well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's certainly true for the 2.5G phones, but things are a little different with 3G phones that support video. The Fortune guy is right. live phone sex with video will probably catch on.
[quote]<strong>And I am pretty good at guessing the future in this buisness. I declared WAP dead already four years ago <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think the only people who felt it had a future were the networks!
I think the only people who felt it had a future were the networks! </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh yes My company thought it was the thing that would finally get them to be profitable. So when we introduced WAP they were all excited despite nothing worked properly on the demo phones. So when I asked why they thought people wanted to access a dysfunctional baby version of the internet at a fifth the speed of 56k and pay ten times the price for it they went "oh yeah? but but this is only the first step. Soon WAP 2.something will be here and all phones will have large displays with VGA resolution and everything will be great and bla bla" and wrote something like "Anders shows signs of mistrusting our almighty authority" in a little black book.
[quote] And I am pretty good at guessing the future in this buisness. I declared WAP dead already four years ago <hr></blockquote>
I thought so too Anders, but lately I've actually used WAP a whole lot more (on my T68i with GPRS) its fast, not to expensive and does actually work this time. (the phone connects to my startpage in about 2 secs.)
So maybe WAP will have its revenge... Anyway MMS is the big hype at the moment, and if there is a dead technology, this could very well be it. Your supposed to pay about 1 euro/doolar to send a picture (+text, maybe even some sound to your friends) while the same phones can do this via email for almost free... Can't wait to see if people are actually stupid enough to buy into this...
BUMP: my question: does anyone know if you can use the T68i, the Dlink Bluetooth adapter and a bluetooth headset together, at the same time?
BUMP: my question: does anyone know if you can use the T68i, the Dlink Bluetooth adapter and a bluetooth headset together, at the same time?</strong><hr></blockquote>
With the current implementation of Bluetooth, it is only possible to connect two devices together at a time. So either the phone + computer or phone + headset. I've read that eventually Bluetooth will be able to connect more than two devices together at a time. But who knows when that will be
about the T68i, i was playing w/ one at an att store the other day, and i had a ? about the joystick used for navigation. how durable is it? it was driving me nuts when i was trying to move around the menu, like when i tried moving it down, it would push down instead, going to a menu i didnt want
i hope so, im considering trading in my nokia 6360 for one, i just gota use one a little first. ive been using nokias since ive been using cell phones. i personally love the interface, does anyone know how long until nokia releases a BT phone in the us? preferably for AT&T?
just got mine, love it, hooked it with bluetooth, moved all my phone numbers and calendars too...and pix and ringtones are easy now...the joystick was weird feeling at first, but after an hour i got the hang of it...
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Unless Nokia releases the <a href="http://www.nokia.com/phones/7650/index.html"; target="_blank">7650</a> over here, looks like my next phone will be the T68i, or the <a href="http://www.sonyericsson.com/P800"; target="_blank">P800</a>.
But people know it, and because they know it, think it's better then the stuff they don't know.
In this I see parallels between Win and Mac.
<strong>I remain totally confused by people who say "I just have to have the Nokia" when they look horrible and the UI is god-awful.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I disagree. My Nokia 8290 is a fantastic phone. It looks great, the quality of signal is excellent, and I have no complaints about the UI.
And I've read a lot of good reviews for the Symbian interface on the 7650.
[QB]It's not Nokia's first <a href="http://www.nokia.com/phones/3650/popup.html"; target="_blank">monstrosity</a>!
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It's fine ID, just bad UE...
Non-standard keypad configurations don't work. B&O makes a phone with the numbers arrayed as such:
1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8
9 0
* #
And it's horrible. Cool design, terrible to use.
Symbian is truely great, but the phone is still a brick.
When symbian comes out on a phone of "usable" size, I'll be the first on to buy it.
<strong>Symbian is truely great, but the phone is still a brick.
When symbian comes out on a phone of "usable" size, I'll be the first on to buy it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
But surely it's inevitable that a Symbian-based phone will have to be larger? It requires a larger display than the teeny weeny cell phones.
To make the PDA features usable, the phone needs to creep up toward the size of a PDA.
I have to say I'm leaning toward the P800 over the 7650, though.
And I certainly prefer these phones to something like the Treo.
Looking at my t68i, I can easily imagine it with a bigger screen. the resolution on the 6650 is 128 by 96. The t68i has 101 by 80. The step isn't far... hopefully
Nokia used to rock and there is a reason why they are so succesful. But today they make too many faulty phones. Nokias are double so likely to go bad within the first year than your average GSM phone.
Nokia 7650 is a great phone and symbian is the best current OS for handheld devices (NewtonOS rocks). But it is big and unhandy. And I am a UNIX/OOP/Apple philosophy guy: Have a lot of dedicated tools that handle each function best. So the idea of a camera in a phone is alien to me (like MP3 players were when they arrived). Give me a normal digital camera, an iPod and a 68i and I would be happy.
68i The phone to have. I have tried the 68i compared to the 7650 and despite its more limited functions I would much rather have that.
P800 Its the dream phone right now. Even the Nokia fraction of the company.
<strong>Symbian is truely great, but the phone is still a brick.
When symbian comes out on a phone of "usable" size, I'll be the first on to buy it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
My apologies, New. I got to play with one for the first time today, though the demonstration was a bit limited in that it doesn't support the 1900 frequency.
It is a frickin' brick. And the P800 is bigger.
I just want a new version of the 8290 that has Bluetooth.
Oh, and I like this theory on why 3G may just succeed, from an article at <a href="http://www.fortune.com/ontech/20020923.html"; target="_blank">Fortune</a>:
[quote]Based on the indifferent response in Japan, 3G video phones appear to be a solution in search of a demand. When was the last time you looked at your mobile phone and thought, "Boy howdy! I'd sure like to pay a buck to watch a trailer for the new 'Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers' movie on this dinky 1-inch color screen"?
On the other hand, 3G mobile phones will revolutionize the phone-sex industry. The sex industry invariably is the first to recognize the commercial possibilities of new technologies -- the printing press, photography, VCRs, videocams, the Internet, and so on -- and videocam-equipped 3G phones are destined to be next in line. I anticipate a new meaning for "flash dialing." If you are alarmed by the way people drive while they are talking on their cellphones today, just wait until the 3G clothing-optional videophones arrive -- you ain't seen nothing yet.<hr></blockquote>
It does bring up an important issue for the new "2.5G" phones though: Will MMS services result in porn companies spamming phones with photos?
Don´t think so. MMS messages aren´t cheap so no spamming of that. But more important: The idea of porn combined with VCRs, magazins, internet etc. is that you can enjoy it in the comfort of your own home. The idea of mobile phones is that you can use it anywhere. Porn and mobile equipment doesn´t mix very well.
"Excuse me miss. I have just recieved my daily "dirty teenbitch"-picture so please tell me the way to your toilet"
"Of course sir. Its just down the hall at you left"
That isn´t the world I want to live in at least.
And I am pretty good at guessing the future in this buisness. I declared WAP dead already four years ago <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>The idea of porn combined with VCRs, magazins, internet etc. is that you can enjoy it in the comfort of your own home. The idea of mobile phones is that you can use it anywhere. Porn and mobile equipment doesn´t mix very well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's certainly true for the 2.5G phones, but things are a little different with 3G phones that support video. The Fortune guy is right. live phone sex with video will probably catch on.
[quote]<strong>And I am pretty good at guessing the future in this buisness. I declared WAP dead already four years ago <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think the only people who felt it had a future were the networks!
<strong>
I think the only people who felt it had a future were the networks!
Oh yes
Still waiting for those 640 by 480 screens...
I thought so too Anders, but lately I've actually used WAP a whole lot more (on my T68i with GPRS) its fast, not to expensive and does actually work this time. (the phone connects to my startpage in about 2 secs.)
So maybe WAP will have its revenge... Anyway MMS is the big hype at the moment, and if there is a dead technology, this could very well be it. Your supposed to pay about 1 euro/doolar to send a picture (+text, maybe even some sound to your friends) while the same phones can do this via email for almost free... Can't wait to see if people are actually stupid enough to buy into this...
BUMP: my question: does anyone know if you can use the T68i, the Dlink Bluetooth adapter and a bluetooth headset together, at the same time?
<strong>
BUMP: my question: does anyone know if you can use the T68i, the Dlink Bluetooth adapter and a bluetooth headset together, at the same time?</strong><hr></blockquote>
With the current implementation of Bluetooth, it is only possible to connect two devices together at a time. So either the phone + computer or phone + headset. I've read that eventually Bluetooth will be able to connect more than two devices together at a time. But who knows when that will be
<strong>7650 <a href="http://www.wildpalm.co.uk/Doom7650.html"; target="_blank">Doom</a>!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Holy fvck that's nuts! Doomling was already traumatising enough. This looks almost as good as Doom looked when it first came out on PCs.
Escher