Product ban looms for Samsung in patent spat with Apple

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  • Reply 21 of 44
    ronnronn Posts: 560member

    Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the ban extend to newer products with similar usage of the patent(s) in play. I seem to recall that Fosspatents said the ITC ban would apply to any Samsung device that uses the patents absent an agreement with Apple.

  • Reply 22 of 44
    On topic though, what happened to the possibility that this case would be extended to cover more recent samsung products? As far as I know, the patents involved are still in use on current models.

    I'm sure I read a whole ago that there was a case being made to extend this so it would apply not only to products that were already released when the case was filed, but to all products that incorporated the patents.
  • Reply 23 of 44
    So it should be 11:59am... 12.00am then 12:01 pm?

    Yes. Yes it should.

    Really though, we should just get a move on and switch to decimalised time...
  • Reply 24 of 44
    ronn wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the ban extend to newer products with similar usage of the patent(s) in play. I seem to recall that Fosspatents said the ITC ban would apply to any Samsung device that uses the patents absent an agreement with Apple.

    Snap.
  • Reply 25 of 44
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weejock View Post



    I know it's off topic, but the whole 12am 12pm thing has always irritated me.



    11.58am... 11.59am... 12.00pm



    Just sayin.

     

    Why does this irritate you? 

  • Reply 26 of 44
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,398member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    An ITC import ban on some older models of Samsung smartphones...

    "Older Samsung models" could be ones they released 3 months ago considering how many new models they release.

  • Reply 27 of 44
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weejock View Post





    Yes. Yes it should.



    Really though, we should just get a move on and switch to decimalised time...

     

    That would still be incorrect. "Twelve ante meridiem (before midday)" is impossible, as Twelve IS midday. If you want to get picky, it should be:

     

    11:58am... 11:59am... 12:00m (meridiem)... 12:01pm...

  • Reply 28 of 44
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,924member
    weejock wrote: »
    Yes. Yes it should.

    Really though, we should just get a move on and switch to decimalised time...

    Perhaps this is why starfleet went to star dates.
  • Reply 29 of 44
    pendergast wrote: »
    That would still be incorrect. "Twelve ante meridiem (before midday)" is impossible, as Twelve IS midday. If you want to get picky, it should be:

    11:58am... 11:59am... 12:00m (meridiem)... 12:01pm...

    I accept your solution. Now, to tell the world!
  • Reply 30 of 44
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by weejock View Post

    Yes. Yes it should.



    Really though, we should just get a move on and switch to decimalised time...

     

    Ludicrous nonsense. Both parts. I keep a metric clock as a joke only.

     

    I suppose you’d prefer a decimalized year, too? How would you go about that?

  • Reply 31 of 44
    Ludicrous nonsense. Both parts. I keep a metric clock as a joke only.
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="32959" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/32959/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 305px; height: 174px">


    I suppose you’d prefer a decimalized year, too? How would you go about that?

    We had a decimalised year. Bloody egotistical roman emperors adding in extra months...

    EDIT
    Scratch that. There's a fact I've never looked into since I was misinformed in primary school. For more information on the crazy Romans:
    http://www.infoplease.com/spot/history-of-august.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar#Months

    Anyway, I'm sure we can come up with a new way. A better way.

    What were we talking about again?
  • Reply 32 of 44
    sky kingsky king Posts: 189member

    I agree with all you guys who find 12:00 AM/PM confusing.  Once I learned to use the 24 hour clock the problem vanished, at least for me.  

     

    The only solution I've ever found is to say Noon and Midnight rather than the number.  Possibly a good reason to convert to 24 hour time (but that is about as likely the sun rising in the West)

  • Reply 33 of 44
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,924member
    Ludicrous nonsense. Both parts. I keep a metric clock as a joke only.
    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="32959" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/32959/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 305px; height: 174px">


    I suppose you’d prefer a decimalized year, too? How would you go about that?

    100 metric sec per metric minute. 100 metric minutes per metric hour. 100 metric hours per metric day. 100 metric days per metric year. I think that works out to .52 min per metric min during non leap years. Of course non of this metric time would relate to rotation of the planet.
  • Reply 34 of 44
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,595member
    "The world is watching how Samsung is treated by the United States in this 'smartphone war' and the administration has a significant interest in avoiding the perception of favoritism and protectionism toward U.S. companies," Samsung wrote in the full-throated defense.

    This is a laugh since Korea highly favors anything Samsung or Korean. Samsung is all gimme, gimme, gimme as usual. With the US Gov't is shutdown so may be unlikely to help Samsung this time around.

    Indeed, "favoritism" - a case of the pot calling the kettle black. There is a very simple solution for taking care of this immoral scumbag of a company - remove our troops! Open up the DMZ!
  • Reply 35 of 44
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,595member
    With Samsung's flagrant thumbing of their nose at the law around the world, we should simply ban all of their mobile devices! Currently, by the time the government takes action in the courts, the punishment is meaningless to these scumbags as they have already raked in billions illegally, and have moved on to other products. We should also be gutting them of all their profits as they see the fines as a slap on the wrist and a simple cost of doing business that has little impact on their bottom line. As a repeat offender, they have shown absolutely no desire to change their ways.
  • Reply 36 of 44
    brakkenbrakken Posts: 687member
    I'm not watching how the US govt is treating Samsung at all. That is, if the US govt has any funds to do anything about this in the first place, of course.

    I'm interested in that Samsung refers to its abuse of other's patents as 'insignificant', yet insists on legal action against a third party for components already licenced.

    How soon will these activities be recognised as 'trolling' in legal dealings?

    And now Samsung has released an advertisement for the least accessible consumer electronics device of all time (well, this decade at least). Of course their ad is a copy of an Apple ad.

    Finally: how much longer and what will it take for people and the press to begin heaping ridicule on Samsung, which it so richly deserves?

    Let's start now!

    "In yet another failed attempt to manipulate the unaware, Samsung has stolen yet MORE ideas in a blantantly uncreative rip-off of their favorite brand. Apple is typically ignoring the ineffectual group of fools. As the deadline for Samsung's import ban nears, the Republican-led and reportedly undemocratic shutdown of the US govt will ensure the ban takes full effect. Vote Republican! Samsung's future viability is on even shakier ground as it continues to swamp actual sales reports with shipment numbers and maintains total secrecy reguarding its mobile device profitability. Shares are continuing their expected decline."

    This was my first article on the topic. Should I provide links?
  • Reply 37 of 44
    bulk001bulk001 Posts: 710member
    freerange wrote: »
    Indeed, "favoritism" - a case of the pot calling the kettle black. There is a very simple solution for taking care of this immoral scumbag of a company - remove our troops! Open up the DMZ!
    Yes. Let's cut off our nose to spite our face. NK is a big enough problem as it is. Giving them the Korean Peninsula and have millions of South Koreas killed just because of a patent dispute is exactly what we should do. /s
  • Reply 38 of 44
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rob Bonner View Post



    It's funny, it's like no one noticed that they copy everything.

     

    Right. No one noticed, except for the thousands and thousands who whine about it everyday.

     

    Call them names all you want, but Samsung has succeeded with its copycat strategy. They will not be penalized enough to offset the profits and market dominance they gained with their strategy. Not only that, Apple still needs them more than they need Apple. 

     

    I don't admire how/what they do, but we have to get over it. They have succeeded and Apple will have to accept that there is a limit to how much compensation and remedy can be effected.

  • Reply 39 of 44
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    jungmark wrote: »
    100 metric sec per metric minute. 100 metric minutes per metric hour. 100 metric hours per metric day. 100 metric days per metric year. I think that works out to .52 min per metric min during non leap years. Of course non of this metric time would relate to rotation of the planet.

    But it's still based on the revolutions of the earth around the sun.

    Why not simply use some arbitrary time standard - perhaps based on vibrations of the hydrogen atom.
  • Reply 40 of 44
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    It's banned.
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