Apple will probably get some very talented people out of this. When a company starts down, the best people tend to be the most eager to leave. They're the ones who have the best chance of finding new jobs.
This remark practically begs for a comment: "I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously."
You're talking about Canada right? The country that's headed down the same path as the NHS in the UK. The country where people could get a CAT scan for their dog or cat the same day but often waited months to get one for themselves.
And as outrageous as that sounds, it was actually even worse. Those human/pet CAT scans were being done on the same machines. Canada's Obamacare-like bureaucracy had only allocated enough money to scan people eight-hours a day. After hours, they were used for pets because pet owners paid for their scans.
If you want to see just how bad the NHS is, Google "hospital formal complaint" I just did. The top four hits are for the NHS. Only when you get to #5 do you find procedures for U.S. hospitals. And in the U.S., if you don't like a hospital, you can transfer to another. In the U.K., the NHS decides if, when, where and how you are treated.
After WWII, the British had to cope with adapting from being a world power to becoming one dependent on the U.S. for any influence they had in the world. Many did that by concluding that, "Well, we may be nothing on the world stage, but at least we have the NHS."
Europeans don't agree, fleeing to their home country at the slightest sign of a sickness. And the recent expose of scandals of the NHS, people dying unattended and lying in their own s___t, have begun to break down that mystique. Pouring money at the problem isn't helping.
But what's scary is that, judging by what has happened so far, those who want to bring us Obamacare seem likely to create something far worse. Liberals in Congress aren't even pretending the scheme will work and are desperate to make sure that neither they nor their staff are enrolled.
If I were a Canadian considering taking a job in the U.S., I would be worried about Obamacare, but what'd bother me would be the impact it will have before it collapses.
Maybe Microsoft will start taking non-Windows device support seriously. Oh wait, what's this RT thing?
ActiveSync sux.
Is it ActiveSync or Apple's implementation? I actually don't know. Never have email problems, actually, but keeping calendars in sync is really problematic. I advise users not to accept or change meetings on their iOS devices. Also, there is an API for setting out of office. Such an obvious need, and Apple is becoming the de facto choice for corporate smart phones. They need to spend a lot more in this area.
So let them stay up north and starve, their choice. They are not exactly essential.
Phew, Apple ][ - way too serious - be kinder to therfman and chill a little.
The fact that Apple is even considering hiring Blackberry software engineers indicates that Apple understands (even if you do not), that whatever company you work for and however fucked-up that company's management might be, software engineering talent is vital to continued product advancement. The US seems to be dominated by hardware engineers, they don't seem to get UX. Canadian (and European) software engineers have a great deal to offer in this area.
You are a riot! Your country has screwed up their healthcare system so bad, my Mother's doctor left Ontario after seeing his patients die or become drug addicts while waiting for their appts with specialists that took over a year. By the time their appt was approaching, one patient had succumbed to his back injury and the other was addicted to pain killers.
Add to the mix, Ted Cruz is Canadian. I would gladly trade him for a couple of engineers from Waterloo. At least they can get fired for not doing their job.
Disclosure: like a lot of Americans, I blame both parties.
Wow. A tag like "HammerofTruth" clearly calls for a comment like "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".
We're getting way off-topic here, but since you insist:
The "socialist" Canadian health care system is doing quite well in providing for their citizens actually, despite individual failures that any system has to contend with.
From the US perspective, my point would be that "ObamaCare" simply offers a safety net to the impoverished citizens of the US. That's not "socialist" - merely normal human compassion.
I most certainly understand, which is why I wrote that Apple should grab a few engineers, but definitely not any manager types from that failed Canadian company. And I am also correct when I state that they are not essential, as Apple has been doing just fine without them, and will continue to do just fine, with or without them.
It is disgusting, it will be marred by incompetence, deceit, fraud and it will lead to a lower quality of service.
Do you live in Canada, or are you "an exceptional American" who thinks they have any understanding at all about anything north of the 49th? "incompetence, deceit, fraud", you must be thinking about the medieval GOP and their approach to civilized government.
I wish I could add a smiley face to my comments . . .
I most certainly understand, which is why I wrote that Apple should grab a few engineers, but definitely not any manager types from that failed Canadian company. And I am also correct when I state that they are not essential, as Apple has been doing just fine without them, and will continue to do just fine, with or without them.
Yes Lass,we understand - you're just hyperventilating . . .
I hope the Apple can get some of their good RF engineers. BlackBerry phones still have some of the best cellular transceivers in the business. Even with the new generation, you can place a call on a Z10 where the iPhone 5c or 5s has no service.
I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously.
That may be true - but at least we didn't create Justin Bieber
Our problem is that what was sold to many Americans is not what we got. That largely due to the fact that Democrats know they can't be honest with Americans as we would reject what they are really up to.
The current mess is 100% a creation of the Democrats, even big labor has seen the light in that regard. Obama won using a good old fashion bait and switch game, people are finally realizing that. That doesn't mean the Republicans have a good track record, but currently they are just responding to the demands of many Americans to check Obama.
Bull. The ACA was passed by both houses of Congress - including plenty of Republicans. And Congress is free to try to appeal it if they wish.
Oh, and btw, please explain why this plan was so good when Romney implemented it in Massachusetts, but it's now terrible. Even more to the point, it's almost exactly the same plan the Republicans proposed in opposition to Hillarycare in 1992. So why was it a great idea when the GOP proposed it in 1992 and a terrible idea now?
Do you live in Canada, or are you "an exceptional American" who thinks they have any understanding at all about anything north of the 49th? "incompetence, deceit, fraud", you must be thinking about the medieval GOP and their approach to civilized government.
I wish I could add a smiley face to my comments . . .
I am an exceptional person, and I was in fact referring to the American system, not the Canadian. Canada barely registers a faint blip on my radar.
"ObamaCare" simply offers a safety net to the impoverished citizens of the US. That's not "socialist" - merely normal human compassion. Your thoughts?
1. The impoverished already had multiple safety nets. Was it perfect? No. Did something have to be done, yes. But ObamaCare is not it, imo.
2. ObamaCare does more than simply provide a safety net for the impoverished, it affects practically everyone. People are losing their jobs or are having their hours reduced because of this.
3. it will be a lot more expensive than Obama's projections (look at the C.B.O numbers) and will contribute to what could be the bankrupting of the country. Think I'm exaggerating, look at this little gem: "CBO projects that federal debt held by the public would reach 100 percent of GDP in 2038, 25 years from now, even without accounting for the harmful effects that growing debt would have on the economy..."
And the national debt is not give a true account of how dire the situation really is:
Oh, and yes, Apple should hire BlackBerry engineers. Just because the company was run into oblivion by 2 clueless Co-CEOs does not mean that all of its employees are also clueless. I'm sure there is a lot of talent there to be poached.
Apple will probably get some very talented people out of this. When a company starts down, the best people tend to be the most eager to leave. They're the ones who have the best chance of finding new jobs.
This remark practically begs for a comment: "I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously."
You're talking about Canada right? The country that's headed down the same path as the NHS in the UK. The country where people could get a CAT scan for their dog or cat the same day but often waited months to get one for themselves.
...
If I were a Canadian considering taking a job in the U.S., I would be worried about Obamacare, but what'd bother me would be the impact it will have before it collapses.
So let them stay up north and starve, their choice. They are not exactly essential.
I can assure you that they're unlikely to starve. I'm in Canada a lot and the economy is far healthier than the US. Google and others are also recruiting from RIM, so the best are picking the job they want, not the other way around.
I hope the Apple can get some of their good RF engineers. BlackBerry phones still have some of the best cellular transceivers in the business. Even with the new generation, you can place a call on a Z10 where the iPhone 5c or 5s has no service.
I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously.
Back 15 years ago when usd was worth a buck sixty Canadian, politics wasn't such an issue. Canadians were clamoring for jobs in the USA.
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Good! Maybe Apple will start taking exchange support seriously.
Maybe Microsoft will start taking non-Windows device support seriously. Oh wait, what's this RT thing?
ActiveSync sux.
This remark practically begs for a comment: "I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously."
You're talking about Canada right? The country that's headed down the same path as the NHS in the UK. The country where people could get a CAT scan for their dog or cat the same day but often waited months to get one for themselves.
And as outrageous as that sounds, it was actually even worse. Those human/pet CAT scans were being done on the same machines. Canada's Obamacare-like bureaucracy had only allocated enough money to scan people eight-hours a day. After hours, they were used for pets because pet owners paid for their scans.
If you want to see just how bad the NHS is, Google "hospital formal complaint" I just did. The top four hits are for the NHS. Only when you get to #5 do you find procedures for U.S. hospitals. And in the U.S., if you don't like a hospital, you can transfer to another. In the U.K., the NHS decides if, when, where and how you are treated.
After WWII, the British had to cope with adapting from being a world power to becoming one dependent on the U.S. for any influence they had in the world. Many did that by concluding that, "Well, we may be nothing on the world stage, but at least we have the NHS."
Europeans don't agree, fleeing to their home country at the slightest sign of a sickness. And the recent expose of scandals of the NHS, people dying unattended and lying in their own s___t, have begun to break down that mystique. Pouring money at the problem isn't helping.
But what's scary is that, judging by what has happened so far, those who want to bring us Obamacare seem likely to create something far worse. Liberals in Congress aren't even pretending the scheme will work and are desperate to make sure that neither they nor their staff are enrolled.
If I were a Canadian considering taking a job in the U.S., I would be worried about Obamacare, but what'd bother me would be the impact it will have before it collapses.
Maybe Microsoft will start taking non-Windows device support seriously. Oh wait, what's this RT thing?
ActiveSync sux.
Is it ActiveSync or Apple's implementation? I actually don't know. Never have email problems, actually, but keeping calendars in sync is really problematic. I advise users not to accept or change meetings on their iOS devices. Also, there is an API for setting out of office. Such an obvious need, and Apple is becoming the de facto choice for corporate smart phones. They need to spend a lot more in this area.
So let them stay up north and starve, their choice. They are not exactly essential.
Phew, Apple ][ - way too serious - be kinder to therfman and chill a little.
The fact that Apple is even considering hiring Blackberry software engineers indicates that Apple understands (even if you do not), that whatever company you work for and however fucked-up that company's management might be, software engineering talent is vital to continued product advancement. The US seems to be dominated by hardware engineers, they don't seem to get UX. Canadian (and European) software engineers have a great deal to offer in this area.
You are a riot! Your country has screwed up their healthcare system so bad, my Mother's doctor left Ontario after seeing his patients die or become drug addicts while waiting for their appts with specialists that took over a year. By the time their appt was approaching, one patient had succumbed to his back injury and the other was addicted to pain killers.
Add to the mix, Ted Cruz is Canadian. I would gladly trade him for a couple of engineers from Waterloo. At least they can get fired for not doing their job.
Disclosure: like a lot of Americans, I blame both parties.
Wow. A tag like "HammerofTruth" clearly calls for a comment like "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".
We're getting way off-topic here, but since you insist:
The "socialist" Canadian health care system is doing quite well in providing for their citizens actually, despite individual failures that any system has to contend with.
From the US perspective, my point would be that "ObamaCare" simply offers a safety net to the impoverished citizens of the US. That's not "socialist" - merely normal human compassion.
Your thoughts?
(even if you do not)
I most certainly understand, which is why I wrote that Apple should grab a few engineers, but definitely not any manager types from that failed Canadian company. And I am also correct when I state that they are not essential, as Apple has been doing just fine without them, and will continue to do just fine, with or without them.
That's not "socialist" - merely normal human compassion.
Your thoughts?
It is disgusting, it will be marred by incompetence, deceit, fraud and it will lead to a lower quality of service.
Agreed, but Apple should/will grab whatever appropriate talent whenever they need.
Is only Apple left to hold up the American economy almost single-handedly now?
Apparently. It's better than Microsoft doing it. They'll make everyone do those STUPID dances like they do at their Microsoft Stores.
It is disgusting, it will be marred by incompetence, deceit, fraud and it will lead to a lower quality of service.
Do you live in Canada, or are you "an exceptional American" who thinks they have any understanding at all about anything north of the 49th? "incompetence, deceit, fraud", you must be thinking about the medieval GOP and their approach to civilized government.
I wish I could add a smiley face to my comments . . .
I most certainly understand, which is why I wrote that Apple should grab a few engineers, but definitely not any manager types from that failed Canadian company. And I am also correct when I state that they are not essential, as Apple has been doing just fine without them, and will continue to do just fine, with or without them.
Yes Lass,we understand - you're just hyperventilating . . .
That may be true - but at least we didn't create Justin Bieber
Nonsense. In what way are the Democrats lying?
Bull. The ACA was passed by both houses of Congress - including plenty of Republicans. And Congress is free to try to appeal it if they wish.
Oh, and btw, please explain why this plan was so good when Romney implemented it in Massachusetts, but it's now terrible. Even more to the point, it's almost exactly the same plan the Republicans proposed in opposition to Hillarycare in 1992. So why was it a great idea when the GOP proposed it in 1992 and a terrible idea now?
That may be true - but at least we didn't create Justin Bieber
... but you've got Miley to balance that out.
I am an exceptional person, and I was in fact referring to the American system, not the Canadian. Canada barely registers a faint blip on my radar.
"ObamaCare" simply offers a safety net to the impoverished citizens of the US. That's not "socialist" - merely normal human compassion. Your thoughts?
1. The impoverished already had multiple safety nets. Was it perfect? No. Did something have to be done, yes. But ObamaCare is not it, imo.
2. ObamaCare does more than simply provide a safety net for the impoverished, it affects practically everyone. People are losing their jobs or are having their hours reduced because of this.
3. it will be a lot more expensive than Obama's projections (look at the C.B.O numbers) and will contribute to what could be the bankrupting of the country. Think I'm exaggerating, look at this little gem: "CBO projects that federal debt held by the public would reach 100 percent of GDP in 2038, 25 years from now, even without accounting for the harmful effects that growing debt would have on the economy..."
And the national debt is not give a true account of how dire the situation really is:
Oh, and yes, Apple should hire BlackBerry engineers. Just because the company was run into oblivion by 2 clueless Co-CEOs does not mean that all of its employees are also clueless. I'm sure there is a lot of talent there to be poached.
1. Nonsense. In what way are the Democrats lying?
1. In what way are the Democrats lying? Well, for starters, it's true cost. Not exactly a lie, but they weren't exactly being honest about his either.
2. Including plenty of Republicans: I think that a single Republican in the House voted for this. One. In any case, it wasn't "plenty of Republicans."
Apple will probably get some very talented people out of this. When a company starts down, the best people tend to be the most eager to leave. They're the ones who have the best chance of finding new jobs.
This remark practically begs for a comment: "I'm not sure how much success they'll have convincing engineers to move to the US though. While Canadians generally have no problems with Americans, the current government fiasco over healthcare and the polarized politics have made it more difficult for us Canadians to take the country seriously."
You're talking about Canada right? The country that's headed down the same path as the NHS in the UK. The country where people could get a CAT scan for their dog or cat the same day but often waited months to get one for themselves.
...
If I were a Canadian considering taking a job in the U.S., I would be worried about Obamacare, but what'd bother me would be the impact it will have before it collapses.
LOL
So let them stay up north and starve, their choice. They are not exactly essential.
I can assure you that they're unlikely to starve. I'm in Canada a lot and the economy is far healthier than the US. Google and others are also recruiting from RIM, so the best are picking the job they want, not the other way around.