Apple's Jony Ive on design: 'The most important thing is that you care'

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  • Reply 41 of 50
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Inkling View Post



    Quote: " "It's like finishing the back of a drawer. Nobody's going to see it, but you do it anyway."



    You might do that you're a carpenter for very rich people. Personally, I'd rather have a carpenter who doesn't finish what's not seen and charges less. That frees up money to spend on things that do matter, including things that can be seen.



    I was up in my attic yesterday, Nothing up there is finished It's all bare rafters, unpainted wood, and blow-in insulation. But it keeps off the rain and helps the building to stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter. That's what matters.

     

    True, that many creatives and craftsmen don't care about unseen details. Ivy is one of those guys who does care and actually finishes his work. But construction workers who build houses are not creatives and not considered craftsmen so unfinished attics are expected. In the same vein, website builders don't write the cleanest code.

  • Reply 42 of 50
    jungmark wrote: »
    People complained about OS X 10.0. Apple did just fine.

    Of course they did. The Finder did suck big time though, good thing they released 10.1 just 6 months later with a way faster Finder.
  • Reply 43 of 50
    pazuzu wrote: »
    How can anyone read that camera's settings? Ridiculous.

    "Life is like a mirror, you'll get back what you give to the world"
  • Reply 44 of 50
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    "Life is like a mirror, you'll get back what you give to the world"

    Who's quote is that? Is that from from a Walt Disney cartoon?

  • Reply 45 of 50
    zabazaba Posts: 226member
    almondroca wrote: »
    In the same vein, website builders don't write the cleanest code.
    Given unlimited resources sure they would.
  • Reply 46 of 50
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    pazuzu wrote: »
    philboogie wrote: »
    "Life is like a mirror, you'll get back what you give to the world"
    Who's quote is that? Is that from from a Walt Disney cartoon?

    Straight from me to you. I just don't get all the negativity around here. Certainly not limited to you, I have my fair share of it as well, but why would you call it 'ridiculous'? Just take a look at how cameras were made, back in the day, and maybe you'd think this is actually a beautiful and perhaps nostalgic design, possibly even appreciate it for what it is.
  • Reply 47 of 50
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    Originally Posted by zaba View Post





    Given unlimited resources sure they would.

     

    I should've differentiated website creators v. companies who hire contractors to spit out websites.

  • Reply 48 of 50
    I'm with the guy who doesn't want to pay an obsessive carpenter to spend a weekend polishing the back of a drawer I'll never see. That's a bit too much like Ayn Rand's Fountainhead, I think it's for the benefit of the carpenter, not me. Doesn't Apple's board have anything to say about using all that Apple engineering time on vanity products that will never be made by Apple? This is getting like Apple's famous lack of focus in the 90's.

    If Apple had 2000 hours of engineering time to throw away, I wish they would have used them creating a free Apple OS9 simulator that would run on the latest hardware. Now that would be cool.

    Good luck getting $6m for that playskool Leica.
  • Reply 49 of 50
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    ralphbu wrote: »
    I'm with the guy who doesn't want to pay an obsessive carpenter to spend a weekend polishing the back of a drawer I'll never see. That's a bit too much like Ayn Rand's Fountainhead, I think it's for the benefit of the carpenter, not me. Doesn't Apple's board have anything to say about using all that Apple engineering time on vanity products that will never be made by Apple? This is getting like Apple's famous lack of focus in the 90's.

    If Apple had 2000 hours of engineering time to throw away, I wish they would have used them creating a free Apple OS9 simulator that would run on the latest hardware. Now that would be cool.

    Good luck getting $6m for that playskool Leica.

    To each his/her own. I for one like it when they go completely bazurk over details, even the ones I possibly never get to see. "You'd know the back hasn't been painted, even though you'd never get to see it."
  • Reply 50 of 50
    Jungmark says it's not a life or death situation. Spoken like a true job holder. If you were the owner of a business you might see both the difficulties generated by the bland appearance and the inconsistent performance of many apps (surprisingly it's the Apple apps yhat are inconsistent...not the purchased apps) in a different light.
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