iPhone 4 and 4S owners also get marred composing experience with the normal photo mode. The preview is made to fill the screen rather than fit. The longer edges are missing part of the final image. Worse, the opaque shutter button and your finger obscure another part of the image and the tinted areas don't help with composing either.
I've been using the square mode to avoid these problems, but sometimes the camera defaults back to the full mode. Seems like the testing is happening more on the 4" screens.
Excellent point! And this problem has always been the case, ever since the 1st gen in 2007. The CCD is 4:3, the screen was 3:2, now 16:9, nee, 71:40. After taking a picture you need to zoom out to see the whole frame. And that makes it very difficult to compose because there is no viewfinder (although these are usually not 100% either)
The filters are very poor. How about a filter that actually improves the photo?
For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
I suppose that depends on what the meaning of improve is. There are many types of filters. For example Photoshop has several dozen filters that can create effects which might be suitable for a particular purpose. I have not used any iOS Camera filters but to dismiss all photographic filters as non productive, is painting with a very broad brush. I know a photographer who boasts about never retouching any photographs yet we have retouched many of them later for his clients. Sometimes just contrast or brightness, other times full on color correction.
Mostly off topic but he does have an interesting technique. He shoots exclusively autos. In a large studio all the lights are out in total darkness. The shutter of the camera is opened and then several remote flashes are triggered for a few milliseconds and the shutter is then closed. At that point they turn on all the studio lights and make some adjustments such as dusting the tire treads and chrome trim with baby powder turning on the parking lights, etc. Then they do another double exposure using the previous dark studio method. Ultimately they might do 3-5 exposures for the final photo. Obviously they are still shooting film (4x5) but that is another story altogether because there a very few film processing services left in business.
Bottom line is that, sure you can learn photography at a community college but some people take it to extremes. There are many cases in between.
I suppose that depends on what the meaning of improve is.
Very true. I just think a good photo is made by a strong composition and other factors, not 'aided' by other things, including altering a picture afterwards. Or bracketing, sounds like the photographer doesn't know what to do.
There are many types of filters. For example Photoshop has several dozen filters that can create effects which might be suitable for a particular purpose.
Well, if the photo is for a marketing use these filters certainly have their purpose. Or something. I'd use filters for beautiful shot of a waterfall, for instance. They definitely have their purpose.
I have not used any iOS Camera filters but to dismiss all photographic filters as non productive, is painting with a very broad brush.
Nice!
Bottom line is that, sure you can learn photography at a community college but some people take it to extremes. There are many cases in between.
Good point! And I have to stress that there are way more things in photography that I don't know about compared to the things I have learned. I would like 'to learn it all' but only so much time in a day...
I'm curious about what the iPhone 6 will bring to the table in this regard.
Pro Mode. If I have one, I'll be happy. Everything else are as fine as they are. Pro Mode so you can lock 3 things separately: AE Lock, AF Lock and WB Lock.
An already great, much-loved camera just got better.
I'm curious about what the iPhone 6 will bring to the table in this regard.
I am confused why the iPhone 5S was even named that. The changes seemed significant enough to justify calling it the iPhone 6. It was hardly just a speed bump from the previous model. A 64-bit processor, redesigned home button and Touch ID. Man, if these changes were not enough to name the model the iPhone 6, I guess next year's model must be mind-blowing.
Excellent point! And this problem has always been the case, ever since the 1st gen in 2007. The CCD is 4:3, the screen was 3:2, now 16:9, nee, 71:40. After taking a picture you need to zoom out to see the whole frame. And that makes it very difficult to compose because there is no viewfinder (although these are usually not 100% either)
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
That's not true as the CCD is rectangular. Sometimes your ded on, sometimes ded wrong.
Also you were also 'ded' wrong because the image sensor is not CCD at all, it's CMOS.
For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
I disagree. Colour grading can do millions to a photo. How do you think a feature film would look ungraded? Or a fashion magazine ungraded? Pretty bad, I'd guarantee you. The filters shouldn't be about making it look crazy this and crazy that, that could be up to other apps. Apple's filters or photo settings should be treating the RAW files before saving them to JPEG, like brighten shadows, secure skin tones, low contrast, save highlights, shot against the light, temperature etc.
I've spent over a decade following the development of the digital cameras.. and they all fail due to this new digital aesthetics: High contrasts, cutting brights and shades, oversaturation, corrupt colour reproduction, over the top sharpness. They should join forces with the team behind the Fujifilm X-E1 or something and make both a sensor that truly captures a high dynamic range, and better colour reproduction in all ISO's and all light conditions.
For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
I disagree.
And you disagree rightfully so. I actually meant the filters on the iPhone. Screw on filters for your (SLR) lens can indeed make a photo much better, and digital filters as well I guess, though I haven't used those.
By better I actually meant that a photo can be fantastic without a filter, or made with a 2Mpx camera...it's not the camera that makes it a great photo, that's the beauty of the photographer. But 'better' can of course also mean that the same person is likely to make a better photo with a SLR than with some low level dumb phone camera.
Personally I like to make a photo 'as good as I can' without any aided tech, like bracketing. So yeah, I wrote a stupid thing and didn't elaborate on it. Hope I'm making sense here ...
On my iPhone 5 the HDR photo function does not SEEM to work. All the business about shooting three pictures (correct exp, over exp, under exp) and combining them just doesn't seem to happen. In previous IOS you could actually hear and see the three photos being taken. Now it seems to just take one picture and that's it.
On my iPhone 5 the HDR photo function does not SEEM to work. All the business about shooting three pictures (correct exp, over exp, under exp) and combining them just doesn't seem to happen. In previous IOS you could actually hear and see the three photos being taken. Now it seems to just take one picture and that's it.
Anyone else have this problem?
Well, it only saves 2 photos in the camera roll, not 3. The app sometimes reverts the HDR setting, so you might need to check it again when taking a photo after quitting the app. And in /Settings/Photos & Camera you need to set it to keep the originals.
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For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
Excellent point! And this problem has always been the case, ever since the 1st gen in 2007. The CCD is 4:3, the screen was 3:2, now 16:9, nee, 71:40. After taking a picture you need to zoom out to see the whole frame. And that makes it very difficult to compose because there is no viewfinder (although these are usually not 100% either)
The filters are very poor. How about a filter that actually improves the photo?
For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
I suppose that depends on what the meaning of improve is. There are many types of filters. For example Photoshop has several dozen filters that can create effects which might be suitable for a particular purpose. I have not used any iOS Camera filters but to dismiss all photographic filters as non productive, is painting with a very broad brush. I know a photographer who boasts about never retouching any photographs yet we have retouched many of them later for his clients. Sometimes just contrast or brightness, other times full on color correction.
Mostly off topic but he does have an interesting technique. He shoots exclusively autos. In a large studio all the lights are out in total darkness. The shutter of the camera is opened and then several remote flashes are triggered for a few milliseconds and the shutter is then closed. At that point they turn on all the studio lights and make some adjustments such as dusting the tire treads and chrome trim with baby powder turning on the parking lights, etc. Then they do another double exposure using the previous dark studio method. Ultimately they might do 3-5 exposures for the final photo. Obviously they are still shooting film (4x5) but that is another story altogether because there a very few film processing services left in business.
Bottom line is that, sure you can learn photography at a community college but some people take it to extremes. There are many cases in between.
Very true. I just think a good photo is made by a strong composition and other factors, not 'aided' by other things, including altering a picture afterwards. Or bracketing, sounds like the photographer doesn't know what to do.
Well, if the photo is for a marketing use these filters certainly have their purpose. Or something. I'd use filters for beautiful shot of a waterfall, for instance. They definitely have their purpose.
Nice!
Good point! And I have to stress that there are way more things in photography that I don't know about compared to the things I have learned. I would like 'to learn it all' but only so much time in a day...
I'm curious about what the iPhone 6 will bring to the table in this regard.
Pro Mode. If I have one, I'll be happy. Everything else are as fine as they are. Pro Mode so you can lock 3 things separately: AE Lock, AF Lock and WB Lock.
An already great, much-loved camera just got better.
I'm curious about what the iPhone 6 will bring to the table in this regard.
I am confused why the iPhone 5S was even named that. The changes seemed significant enough to justify calling it the iPhone 6. It was hardly just a speed bump from the previous model. A 64-bit processor, redesigned home button and Touch ID. Man, if these changes were not enough to name the model the iPhone 6, I guess next year's model must be mind-blowing.
Excellent point! And this problem has always been the case, ever since the 1st gen in 2007. The CCD is 4:3, the screen was 3:2, now 16:9, nee, 71:40. After taking a picture you need to zoom out to see the whole frame. And that makes it very difficult to compose because there is no viewfinder (although these are usually not 100% either)
That's not true as the CCD is rectangular. Sometimes your ded on, sometimes ded wrong.
Also you were also 'ded' wrong because the image sensor is not CCD at all, it's CMOS.
-greg
Walk over.
For that you'll need to learn photography as a filter could not improve a photo.
I disagree. Colour grading can do millions to a photo. How do you think a feature film would look ungraded? Or a fashion magazine ungraded? Pretty bad, I'd guarantee you. The filters shouldn't be about making it look crazy this and crazy that, that could be up to other apps. Apple's filters or photo settings should be treating the RAW files before saving them to JPEG, like brighten shadows, secure skin tones, low contrast, save highlights, shot against the light, temperature etc.
I've spent over a decade following the development of the digital cameras.. and they all fail due to this new digital aesthetics: High contrasts, cutting brights and shades, oversaturation, corrupt colour reproduction, over the top sharpness. They should join forces with the team behind the Fujifilm X-E1 or something and make both a sensor that truly captures a high dynamic range, and better colour reproduction in all ISO's and all light conditions.
And you disagree rightfully so. I actually meant the filters on the iPhone. Screw on filters for your (SLR) lens can indeed make a photo much better, and digital filters as well I guess, though I haven't used those.
By better I actually meant that a photo can be fantastic without a filter, or made with a 2Mpx camera...it's not the camera that makes it a great photo, that's the beauty of the photographer. But 'better' can of course also mean that the same person is likely to make a better photo with a SLR than with some low level dumb phone camera.
Personally I like to make a photo 'as good as I can' without any aided tech, like bracketing. So yeah, I wrote a stupid thing and didn't elaborate on it. Hope I'm making sense here ...
Taking it out of your ass might help¿
Anyone else have this problem?
Well, it only saves 2 photos in the camera roll, not 3. The app sometimes reverts the HDR setting, so you might need to check it again when taking a photo after quitting the app. And in /Settings/Photos & Camera you need to set it to keep the originals.