Microsoft Surface ad fails to Excel at math, according to Apple's Numbers

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  • Reply 181 of 230
    djsherlydjsherly Posts: 1,031member
    Oh wow. How the neck beards get lathered up over an ad. Next you'll be claiming prada models aren't actually that skinny.

    The only thing I found amusing was DEDs glass houses moment which had since been corrected.
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  • Reply 182 of 230
    This article is just another perfect example of how mindless Apple fanboys get brainwashed. In case you guys haven't noticed, in the ad picture the cell that's being edited clearly shows where the 'error' comes from, as the formula will only update itself to reflect the change you make after you hit Enter.
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  • Reply 183 of 230
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    You may have missed davesmall's point




    And you may have missed mine.

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  • Reply 184 of 230
    I'm a die hard Apple fan but could it be that the highlighted CELL in Excel is waiting for a return before it adds the total to the Sum? Though if it were me i would have pressed return THEN captured the screen grab lol.
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  • Reply 185 of 230
    All these new posters saying you need to press Enter first, showing they do not excel in Excel. People, before posting, please read the thread, start to finish, before showing everyone that your post count equals your IQ.


    teral wrote: »
    So the guy that create the artwork need a better calculator app in his iPhone.

    If he's working on a billboard wouldn't he be using a computer, and do his calculations on there, instead of his 'iPhone'?
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  • Reply 186 of 230
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member

    An increasing number of AppleInsider articles are more of the AppleCompetitorGotcha variety.  Microsoft's ad agency putting out a badly assembled mock-up may be passingly funny, but the length of the articles are absurd for content that could easily be expressed in a tweet.

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  • Reply 187 of 230
    ThIs just goes to show you the fu**** up psyche of MS' management.
    How many of you get that high when you open up Numbers and are able to make a spread sheet within seconds?
    Screw MS.
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  • Reply 188 of 230

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    Excel might fail to add numbers in an ad. But Apples Numbers 3 fails to add numbers in reality on your computer and your iPad (both versions have the same bug). Details and an example file are in this blog article: http://www.gerdcastan.de/en/content/numbers-3-cell-bug I love Microsoft bashing, too (for other reasons than Excel). But in this case... Gerd





    This bug only affects the German version of the very recently released Numbers 3. It revolves around weekdays, not math. I'm sure Apple will resolve it promptly.
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  • Reply 189 of 230
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    This article is in bad taste. DED, are you undergoing a writer's block that you have to resort to such a twisted and distorted article?

     

    It's hilarious you don't see the irony in accusing someone of "bad taste" in criticizing Microsoft - a company synonymous with bad taste (both in product design and marketing tactics).

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  • Reply 190 of 230
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    It would be if you were a travel agent preparing a budget for your client.



    The bigger question I have is, why are they advertising it as "not just a laptop" when it looks just like a laptop, and shows none of the reasons it's not. Shouldn't the ad read, "it's not just a tablet"?

     

    The problem is that the Surface is not a very good tablet. The operating system and applications are not truly optimized for touch screen use, and the 16:9 aspect ratio makes it virtually useless in portrait mode. The Surface is basically a netbook with a touch screen tacked on.

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  • Reply 191 of 230
    hattighattig Posts: 860member
    Ah, this is what happens when you get Marketing people to do an advert without running it by anyone slightly technical. Clearly the Marketing person has never heard of the SUM() function, or even of plain old addition.

    This article shows more useful things though - the colour keys in Numbers are far larger and useful than the tiny dots in Excel. The pie chart looks prettier (although I guess Excel has pretty chart options too, surely).

    Still, it's a noddy spreadsheet example. A real-world Numbers equivalent would have multiple spreadsheets on the same sheet, breaking down each of the entries on the main sheet into the sub-costs (e.g., a list of specific excursions).
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  • Reply 192 of 230
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    welshdog wrote: »
    Who are these people?

    Check this out:
    http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/
    http://perceptualedge.com
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  • Reply 193 of 230
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    hattig wrote: »
    Ah, this is what happens when you get Marketing people to do an advert without running it by anyone slightly technical. Clearly the Marketing person has never heard of the SUM() function, or even of plain old addition.

    This article shows more useful things though - the colour keys in Numbers are far larger and useful than the tiny dots in Excel. The pie chart looks prettier (although I guess Excel has pretty chart options too, surely).

    Still, it's a noddy spreadsheet example. A real-world Numbers equivalent would have multiple spreadsheets on the same sheet, breaking down each of the entries on the main sheet into the sub-costs (e.g., a list of specific excursions).

    I'm sorry but there is nothing pretty about a pie chard, especially when you're comparing more than 2-3 things.
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  • Reply 194 of 230
    Productivity isn't fun, this is real software and it's for work. Work is not fun, so Excel now does math wrong to make sure your day sucks as much as possible. Anybody can have fun, it takes real work to make something painful to use!
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  • Reply 195 of 230
    "The Numbers example did a great job of adding the column of numbers, but what's with the chart? It is quite lovely, all 3D and all. However, it has TWO slices labeled "Car" and NO slices labeled "Surf Rentals". Does Numbers have trouble with transposition of the content of a spreadsheet to a chart?" Did that get fixed by the poster, because I don't see it.
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  • Reply 196 of 230

    I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but you can clearly see the green square around the cell meaning they just entered that figure and have not hit enter yet. Since they haven't hit enter Excel cannot computer that into the Total. 

    It isn't wrong, they just did the screenshot "too early"

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  • Reply 197 of 230
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    Originally Posted by jfanning View Post





    No more than the people claiming Apple is giving away iWorks for free, or the people who think that OS X is free

     

     

    You want hardware charges to be attached to software charges or do you want apple to cater to people who pirate stuff too??


    neither of them are sane.
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  • Reply 198 of 230
    Wow, this is the kind of news Apple people get excited about? Important find, indeed.
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  • Reply 199 of 230
    Wait, so is this an Excel math problem or an advertising agency Photoshop fail problem? Did anyone actually test a real Surface?
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  • Reply 200 of 230
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    Hmmm... Doesn't Excel recalculate when you finish editing a cell? And isn't the cell containing $500 highlighted for editing (& might it not have contained $0 prior to editing)? Poor art direction, but nothing wrong with the operation of the spreadsheet. But don't let that spoil your fun!

     

    Exactly...   possibly poor choice by the ad agency, but it does look like an edit in process.  Just hit ENTER.

     

    AppleInsider has been on a downward spiral for a while.  All these "Editorial" term papers have become a joke.   I wish he would hurry up and finish his degree.

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