The time it takes to launch apps. The disk activity that goes with it. I counted 31 bounces and another 25 seconds before iPhoto opened. That's not an isolated occurrance - other apps also take excessive amounts to time to start.
Under load the machine is unresponsive, unusable almost.
[SNIP]
See, this is why I ask.
With the exception of the aforementioned TimeMachine problem I am having and can't seem to fix, Mavericks runs smooth as silk for me, and even fixed a few problems I was having in ML (w/ Mail, for instance).
So it's always interesting to hear what others' experiences are.
I will say this, though: There are certain problems I'm unlikely to face, maybe, as opposed to you. I have a Fusion Drive, for example, and applications pretty much open instantaneously -- even those which I never use (I just tried with iDVD, which I don't think I've opened in many years).
As to the other problems, don't know. I hope you get them fixed, though.
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
If you've been following the news, a lot of people have experienced issues between Mavericks Mail and Gmail--so much so that Apple even seeded a Mail beta to developers.
This issue is not really with Apple Mail if you really read those forums. The real issue and the more worrying issue is that Google continues to use a bastard form of IMAP which is not compatible with the IMAP standard.
Apple can't fix that bar telling Google to change to proper IMAP but considering they dislike each other now I can only suspect Google will make the problem worse.
Oh, know what I want to see in 10.9.1? An iTunes that supports h.265 and an iTunes Store that has reencoded all of its content to be h.265 to cut file sizes in HALF. Then it’s just a hop, skip, and a jump to redownloading that delicious, smaller-filed stuff.
VLC’s latest update added h.265. HandBrake will add it shortly. Come on, Apple! Get back in front of the curve!
Just one problem - Apple hasn't added H.265 hardware decoding to Apple TV or any of its mobile devices yet (as far as I'm aware).
Do we have any idea when OS X 10.9.1 Vista will actually be released? 10.9 as it is, is really terrible with many annoyances.
How about you just shut up and go away; how’s that?
Originally Posted by trippy
The time it takes to launch apps. The disk activity that goes with it. I counted 31 bounces and another 25 seconds before iPhoto opened. That's not an isolated occurrance - other apps also take excessive amounts to time to start.
All this crap is isolated to your machine, though. Reinstall.
But oh, my iPad2 is even worse with iOS 7. That's a complete train wreck. But that's another story.
Once upon a time, a liar whined about something he did of his own accord that he wasn’t forced to do. The end.
…numb-nuts features, like Autosave and Autoresume.
Enjoy living in 1983. This is how software should have always behaved.
And there's no way to disable them, which is the frustrating part.
Enjoy pretending you’re not lying.
Take away everything else that came with Lion and onwards, because it's junk. Utter garbage.
So why are you whining at all? Just shut up, reinstall Snow Leopard, and give up on the future.
Originally Posted by RichL
Just one problem - Apple hasn't added H.265 hardware decoding to Apple TV or any of its mobile devices yet (as far as I'm aware).
So? Software update. It doesn’t need to be hardware decoding yet.
I have a well-specced-out 2009 iMac that ran like a dream under Snow Leopard. But with every new release of OS X Apple just keeps adding really numb-nuts features, like Autosave and Autoresume. And there's no way to disable them, which is the frustrating part.
Oh, btw: These are change-able in Settings.
PS: One thing that DOES bother me, and I don't understand (just me being dumb, I'm sure), is when I'm involved in Safari (say), and I click on Settings, do some stuff, and Quit -- all of a sudden it slashes me over to iTunes (which I have set fullscreen in a different Space). What is that about? Do I have something set incorrectly in the Settings? It's weird. It should set me back to Safari, no?
dude, never say anything bad about apple on this site, the fan boys will lynch you. apple could shit in theire mouth and they will say yum please more.
apple mail does have issues however i realize that i am an idiot and i obviously clicked on the update button incorrectly. that patch that apple is working on is not to fix bugs because all apple software is perfect. its to make the version number look nicer.
My post was not about Gmail. It was about beach balls. You might want to re-read and check the context.
Just stop. If you have beach balls, you have a problem with your HDD, or some corruption in the installation of the OS or a particular App.
Its the OS out of the box...its your unique machine and scenario. But, much easier to whine ignorantly about, "Mavericks got problems" and blame Apple, then to deal with a complicated issue.
I've been working on Macs professionally for nearly 2 decades....and OS X from its first day. If I see beach balls, I know it has NOTHING to do with Apple's programming.
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
PS: One thing that DOES bother me, and I don't understand (just me being dumb, I'm sure), is when I'm involved in Safari (say), and I click on Settings, do some stuff, and Quit -- all of a sudden it slashes me over to iTunes (which I have set fullscreen in a different Space). What is that about? Do I have something set incorrectly in the Settings? It's weird. It should set me back to Safari, no?
dude, never say anything bad about apple on this site, the fan boys will lynch you.
But... but... it's amusing. Why not?
What's even more amusing is when some sad little duibo changes your words from "say anything bad" to "lie", as if to suggest that Apple couldn't possibly do anything wrong, or worse, be anything less than perfect.
This issue is not really with Apple Mail if you really read those forums. The real issue and the more worrying issue is that Google continues to use a bastard form of IMAP which is not compatible with the IMAP standard.
Apple can't fix that bar telling Google to change to proper IMAP but considering they dislike each other now I can only suspect Google will make the problem worse.
My whole family and I have now stopped using google mail since 2 weeks ago we discovered you can't email a keynote file as an attachment to a google mail address. Google mail thinks keynote files are malicious or executable files for some reason and blocks them. I switched to icloud email long ago but my wife and kids hung onto gmail, against my advise. Google search engine is the best, yes, but everything else google does is crap and I want nothing to do with it.
Mavericks is great. The only issue I've had is computer freeze while using the new version of keynote. But I attribute this to the new iWork. It's buggy and will get fixed in the next few updates I'm sure.
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The time it takes to launch apps. The disk activity that goes with it. I counted 31 bounces and another 25 seconds before iPhoto opened. That's not an isolated occurrance - other apps also take excessive amounts to time to start.
Under load the machine is unresponsive, unusable almost.
[SNIP]
See, this is why I ask.
With the exception of the aforementioned TimeMachine problem I am having and can't seem to fix, Mavericks runs smooth as silk for me, and even fixed a few problems I was having in ML (w/ Mail, for instance).
So it's always interesting to hear what others' experiences are.
I will say this, though: There are certain problems I'm unlikely to face, maybe, as opposed to you. I have a Fusion Drive, for example, and applications pretty much open instantaneously -- even those which I never use (I just tried with iDVD, which I don't think I've opened in many years).
As to the other problems, don't know. I hope you get them fixed, though.
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
Sincerely,
Slide
As to the other problems, don't know. I hope you get them fixed, though.
Thanks, I hope so too!
This just happened as I was replying to you...!
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
Sincerely,
Slide
Eh. Don't worry about it.
Thanks, I hope so too!
This just happened as I was replying to you...!
Huh. I wonder if it's a difference in HW thing?
If you've been following the news, a lot of people have experienced issues between Mavericks Mail and Gmail--so much so that Apple even seeded a Mail beta to developers.
This issue is not really with Apple Mail if you really read those forums. The real issue and the more worrying issue is that Google continues to use a bastard form of IMAP which is not compatible with the IMAP standard.
Apple can't fix that bar telling Google to change to proper IMAP but considering they dislike each other now I can only suspect Google will make the problem worse.
Oh, know what I want to see in 10.9.1? An iTunes that supports h.265 and an iTunes Store that has reencoded all of its content to be h.265 to cut file sizes in HALF. Then it’s just a hop, skip, and a jump to redownloading that delicious, smaller-filed stuff.
VLC’s latest update added h.265. HandBrake will add it shortly. Come on, Apple! Get back in front of the curve!
Just one problem - Apple hasn't added H.265 hardware decoding to Apple TV or any of its mobile devices yet (as far as I'm aware).
How about you just shut up and go away; how’s that?
All this crap is isolated to your machine, though. Reinstall.
Once upon a time, a liar whined about something he did of his own accord that he wasn’t forced to do. The end.
Enjoy living in 1983. This is how software should have always behaved.
Enjoy pretending you’re not lying.
So why are you whining at all? Just shut up, reinstall Snow Leopard, and give up on the future.
Just one problem - Apple hasn't added H.265 hardware decoding to Apple TV or any of its mobile devices yet (as far as I'm aware).
So? Software update. It doesn’t need to be hardware decoding yet.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
... vitriol ... more vitriol ... all-I-know-is-vitriol vitriol
I have an issue with some software.
You have bigger issues.
I have a well-specced-out 2009 iMac that ran like a dream under Snow Leopard. But with every new release of OS X Apple just keeps adding really numb-nuts features, like Autosave and Autoresume. And there's no way to disable them, which is the frustrating part.
Oh, btw: These are change-able in Settings.
PS: One thing that DOES bother me, and I don't understand (just me being dumb, I'm sure), is when I'm involved in Safari (say), and I click on Settings, do some stuff, and Quit -- all of a sudden it slashes me over to iTunes (which I have set fullscreen in a different Space). What is that about? Do I have something set incorrectly in the Settings? It's weird. It should set me back to Safari, no?
And are pretending it’s an inherent issue with said software and not just something on your machine.
You certainly do. Grow up, please.
apple mail does have issues however i realize that i am an idiot and i obviously clicked on the update button incorrectly. that patch that apple is working on is not to fix bugs because all apple software is perfect. its to make the version number look nicer.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
So… nothing but insults and a continued refusal to explain anything you’re talking about.
That’s nice.
Hmm, which banned ex-forum moderator does this remind me of?
Fixed. Don’t be obtuse.
Anyone struggling with slowness, spinning beach balls, etc. should start a thread on Apple's Community forum (https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/os_x_mavericks?view=discussions). Plenty of expert advice and help. Lots of users are having problems with Mavericks but there is usually a solution. A good place to start is by running EtreCheck (http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck) and post the results on the Community forum.
My post was not about Gmail. It was about beach balls. You might want to re-read and check the context.
Just stop. If you have beach balls, you have a problem with your HDD, or some corruption in the installation of the OS or a particular App.
Its the OS out of the box...its your unique machine and scenario. But, much easier to whine ignorantly about, "Mavericks got problems" and blame Apple, then to deal with a complicated issue.
I've been working on Macs professionally for nearly 2 decades....and OS X from its first day. If I see beach balls, I know it has NOTHING to do with Apple's programming.
I have an issue with some software.
You have bigger issues.
No, you have issues with your machine. Very typical of un-educated computer users to throw their hands up, blame the maker, and whine on the internet.
That always fixes problems.
Okay, my apologies to everyone, sincerely. I'm using a mid 2012 MacBook Air 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM 128SSD. I and others are getting these momentary beachballs. They last only a second, and do no affect performance at least not for me. It starts after a clean install, or if I install on top of Mountain Lion. They're more irksome than anything. I've read this over at MacRummors. It could be a minority of us that are experiencing this, but I swear to you they do exist. Some thought it was because of the Time Colaser. I just wish I knew why I'm getting them. I've never noticed them on Mountain Lion.
Other than that I love Mavericks. It's a move in the right direction. I hope they add more features that are iOS like.
I'm sincerely sorry. To the poster I called an A hole.....I'm sincerely sorry. And not to be redundant sincere apologies all around. I like this forum and would like to be more active in it. My post was subjective and emotional.
If you guy's give me one more chance, I promise you no more subjective and emotional posts.
Sincerely,
Slide
Take it to Apple. Before you run out of warranty.
Oh, btw: These are change-able in Settings.
PS: One thing that DOES bother me, and I don't understand (just me being dumb, I'm sure), is when I'm involved in Safari (say), and I click on Settings, do some stuff, and Quit -- all of a sudden it slashes me over to iTunes (which I have set fullscreen in a different Space). What is that about? Do I have something set incorrectly in the Settings? It's weird. It should set me back to Safari, no?
I have no idea, mate. Sounds strange to me.
dude, never say anything bad about apple on this site, the fan boys will lynch you.
But... but... it's amusing. Why not?
What's even more amusing is when some sad little duibo changes your words from "say anything bad" to "lie", as if to suggest that Apple couldn't possibly do anything wrong, or worse, be anything less than perfect.
Mavericks is great. The only issue I've had is computer freeze while using the new version of keynote. But I attribute this to the new iWork. It's buggy and will get fixed in the next few updates I'm sure.