I saw how great Quartz Extreme was through the "Power of X" demo on Apple's website. I was wondering how to get it? I couldn't find out at Apple's site, they just described it.
Quartz Extreme is integrated into Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar; it isn't a separate download or anything. All you need is the aforementioned Jaguar update and a Mac with a newer nVidia/ATi GPU with at least 16 MB VRAM, preferably 32 or higher.
Maybe you mean the Quartz Extreme application, that shows you CPU usage and Frames Per Second in a single, speedometer-looking window? I have it, maybe I could email it to you.
If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.
<strong>Maybe you mean the Quartz Extreme application, that shows you CPU usage and Frames Per Second in a single, speedometer-looking window? I have it, maybe I could email it to you.
If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, that is what I meant. I was thinking of the application.
My computer is a new 17" iMac from august 02. I have the nVidia GeForce 4MX, but with 32 ddr, not vram. Does this mean I don't have quartz extreme capabilites? Also, what is the difference between ddr and vram? Thanks.
<strong>My computer is a new 17" iMac from august 02. I have the nVidia GeForce 4MX, but with 32 ddr, not vram. Does this mean I don't have quartz extreme capabilites? Also, what is the difference between ddr and vram? Thanks.</strong><hr></blockquote>
DDR is a type of memory. Since it is on the graphics card, it is still technically VRAM, or Video Random Access Memory. DDR is just one of the memory standards out there, and your card happens to use it.
<strong>ok, great! Now, How do I get that application with the cpu monitor, and the speedometer thing that shows the composited frames?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Phil used an in-house application to disable Quartz Extreme, and used two other applications to gauge performance. The round, speedometer like one, measured frames per second of on-screen graphics. The other guage, CPU Monitor, which you can find in your Utilities folder, shows processor usage. I want to know how to get the speedometer application. Also, since the quartz extreme on/off switch was an inhouse application, does that mean It is not available?
<a href="http://www.versiontracker.com"; target="_blank">www.versiontracker.com</a> (search under Mac OS X for "quartz") and you'll also find an app called "quartz extreme check" which will indicate which monitor quartz is running on
the speedometer app has a "Quartz enable/disable" switch and a nifty refresh rate guage as its speedo... with QE off, drag a semi-transparent window over a few running quicktime movies and you'll see the inner CPU dial max out while some of your QT movies stutter.
with QE turned on, the same drag of transparent window over running QT movies will show the cpu dial steady while the 'gpu' outer dial cranks up to 150 fps on some systems (and none of the simultaneously running QT movies even slow down)
to clarify...:
Quartz Extreme (app) the speedometer
Quartz Extreme Check tells if QE running on one or both monitors
and yes, you can apply the Open Firmware Hack to get your 17" iMac to drive an external monitor with true spanning (and QE on both), not just mirroring
<strong>Maybe you mean the Quartz Extreme application, that shows you CPU usage and Frames Per Second in a single, speedometer-looking window? I have it, maybe I could email it to you.
If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn´t mind it either. Please email it to me: ajk at our favorite email provider. Or on ichat for the next couple of hours (appleinsider)
I sure hope "our favorite email provider" is Mac.com. Because that's where I sent it to. And it didn't bounce, so I assume you got it.
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.
<strong>I sure hope "our favorite email provider" is Mac.com. Because that's where I sent it to. And it didn't bounce, so I assume you got it.
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks. I got it.
When I tried it (with PP, Mail, Safari, iTunes and a full screen MOV) it didn´t show any freeing of the cpu compared to without QE. But the two transparent terminal windows above theMOV surely did their job with QE disabled. But then again this is on a 128 mb 800 iBook. A lot of swapping was surely going on (that must tax the CPU?)
I dunno if swapping taxes the CPU, but it really slows you down anyway just because the HD is so slow at rapidly writing and reading small portions of data. Hard drives are meant for storing stuff and then moving it into the RAM for use.
Get at least an extra 128 MB in that iBook for sure, preferably another 256 or 512 if you can afford it. My iBook (same model) with 128 MB was basically unusable, it was almost as slow as my 233 MHz Wallstreet (384 MB of RAM) was if I was running more than one program at once.
<strong>I sure hope "our favorite email provider" is Mac.com. Because that's where I sent it to. And it didn't bounce, so I assume you got it.
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Anders, I ended up not getting it, so I was wondering if you would e-mail it to me.
I highly suggest not to leave your e-mail out in the open, otherwsie you will find yourself on many many spam lists that harvest e-mail addresses off web pages <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />
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If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.
<strong>Maybe you mean the Quartz Extreme application, that shows you CPU usage and Frames Per Second in a single, speedometer-looking window? I have it, maybe I could email it to you.
If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, that is what I meant. I was thinking of the application.
<strong>My computer is a new 17" iMac from august 02. I have the nVidia GeForce 4MX, but with 32 ddr, not vram. Does this mean I don't have quartz extreme capabilites? Also, what is the difference between ddr and vram? Thanks.</strong><hr></blockquote>
DDR is a type of memory. Since it is on the graphics card, it is still technically VRAM, or Video Random Access Memory. DDR is just one of the memory standards out there, and your card happens to use it.
<strong>ok, great! Now, How do I get that application with the cpu monitor, and the speedometer thing that shows the composited frames?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Phil used an in-house application to disable Quartz Extreme, and used two other applications to gauge performance. The round, speedometer like one, measured frames per second of on-screen graphics. The other guage, CPU Monitor, which you can find in your Utilities folder, shows processor usage. I want to know how to get the speedometer application. Also, since the quartz extreme on/off switch was an inhouse application, does that mean It is not available?
the speedometer app has a "Quartz enable/disable" switch and a nifty refresh rate guage as its speedo... with QE off, drag a semi-transparent window over a few running quicktime movies and you'll see the inner CPU dial max out while some of your QT movies stutter.
with QE turned on, the same drag of transparent window over running QT movies will show the cpu dial steady while the 'gpu' outer dial cranks up to 150 fps on some systems (and none of the simultaneously running QT movies even slow down)
to clarify...:
Quartz Extreme (app) the speedometer
Quartz Extreme Check tells if QE running on one or both monitors
and yes, you can apply the Open Firmware Hack to get your 17" iMac to drive an external monitor with true spanning (and QE on both), not just mirroring
<strong>Maybe you mean the Quartz Extreme application, that shows you CPU usage and Frames Per Second in a single, speedometer-looking window? I have it, maybe I could email it to you.
If you're asking about Quartz Extreme itself, then yes, you need an ATI Radeon or a nVidia GeForce 2MX or better, with 16 MB of VRAM or more. No, there is not one Rage 128 that will work. People ask that all the time so I want to make that clear.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn´t mind it either. Please email it to me: ajk at our favorite email provider. Or on ichat for the next couple of hours (appleinsider)
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.
<strong>I sure hope "our favorite email provider" is Mac.com. Because that's where I sent it to. And it didn't bounce, so I assume you got it.
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks. I got it.
When I tried it (with PP, Mail, Safari, iTunes and a full screen MOV) it didn´t show any freeing of the cpu compared to without QE. But the two transparent terminal windows above theMOV surely did their job with QE disabled. But then again this is on a 128 mb 800 iBook. A lot of swapping was surely going on (that must tax the CPU?)
Get at least an extra 128 MB in that iBook for sure, preferably another 256 or 512 if you can afford it. My iBook (same model) with 128 MB was basically unusable, it was almost as slow as my 233 MHz Wallstreet (384 MB of RAM) was if I was running more than one program at once.
<strong>I sure hope "our favorite email provider" is Mac.com. Because that's where I sent it to. And it didn't bounce, so I assume you got it.
Anyway, if more people want it, you can contact me (or Anders or cubs, I suppose). I don't really run it ever because it takes so much screen space, but it is pretty cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Anders, I ended up not getting it, so I was wondering if you would e-mail it to me.