I believe you will find that NPD is a firm that provides services to various companies. Samsung happens to be one of their customers. Look at all of their reports and you will find statistics that support Samsung, irrespective of any hard facts that can be verified. I wish we could go back to the days that information was accurate and unbiased.
As Chromebooks are (if I understand correctly) nearly completely dependent on the cloud, it's not surprising they'd not be seen in the wild. Absent someone using their phone as a wi-fi hotspot, or visiting a venue with wi-fi, Chromebooks would be stranded. I expect you might see more of them in homes and offices equipped with wi-fi.
Ummm, in case you haven't noticed wifi is ubiquitous!!!! And in the rest of the world (non-US) our iPhone hotspot functionality is not disabled by greedy carrier agreements.
This is such a BS report from NPD. It does not include Apple store sales, Apple corporate team / account sales, nor BYOD, rendering the whole report meaningless.
Yes, but in many of those cases I need to remember to save music to my computer and consciously manage that. iCloud allows my content to be everywhere, but does not require an internet connection once the content is there and it all happens without me having to think about it. That's just one for instance. Question: If I have a spreadsheet online and get somewhere with no Internet connection, can I view and edit that spreadsheet if I did not save a copy locally? In looking at the Google Drive app reviews, it does not appear so (or at least is not the default) but I could be wrong.
It's not ubiquitous. Try turning on a microwave. WiFi shuts off because it runs in the same narrow spectrum (2.4Ghz) unless you are using 5 Ghz range. Here's another one... try using WiFi or cellular data at a concert. Guess what? Too much RF and overloaded cell towers can take it down in a hurry. I'm traveling to NAMM (National Association of Music Manufacturers) in Anaheim, CA at the end of January. They NEVER have any Internet that works. Why? 500,000 people and twice as many electronic devices make any network non-functional.
For mission critical operations, you cannot depending on WiFi always being there.
Here's the deal with Chromebooks: If you use the computer for web surfing, email, spreadsheets, word processing, social media, media viewing, or the things that mobile computers are used for 99% of the time, a Chromebook is just fine. If you need to run a specific piece of software that requires a windows or OSx computer, then you need a Windows or OSx computer.
My son had been pushing me to get a Chromebook Pixel for months,...
I don't understand why the Chromebook Pixel even exists. This may sound like an Android/PC price/spec fanboy, but in this case the comparison is so extreme... for $200 more than a MacBook Air 13", you're getting 32GB of storage (versus 128GB for the MBA), half the battery life, an older i5 and lesser graphics all in a package that can't run any common software. I just don't understand why one wouldn't just save that $200 and buy a MBA which allows so much more usage.
I guess I'm not so alone as it's not really the Pixel that's selling, but rather the lower end (starting under $200) that are selling such high numbers.
At least with those low-end Chromebooks, I can see them selling for the same reason why netbooks sold, it's an impulse purchase that draws people in because it's so cheap. Later, they'll discover that they aren't as useful as they'd hope they'd be.
I believe the NPD numbers are somewhat accurate. They may be off, but clearly a buttload of Chromebooks were dumped on consumers during this time period. You can see this by looking closely at Amazon. There are too many comments from buyers with histories to have this be anything but a large number of actual sales.
However, I'd be shocked to also see usage stats mirror the sales. Usage is going to trail waaaaay behind.
I don't understand why the Chromebook Pixel even exists. This may sound like an Android/PC price/spec fanboy, but in this case the comparison is so extreme... for $200 more than a MacBook Air 13", you're getting 32GB of storage (versus 128GB for the MBA), half the battery life, an older i5 and lesser graphics all in a package that can't run any common software. I just don't understand why one wouldn't just save that $200 and buy a MBA which allows so much more usage.
I guess I'm not so alone as it's not really the Pixel that's selling, but rather the lower end (starting under $200) that are selling such high numbers.
At least with those low-end Chromebooks, I can see them selling for the same reason why netbooks sold, it's an impulse purchase that draws people in because it's so cheap. Later, they'll discover that they aren't as useful as they'd hope they'd be.
I believe the NPD numbers are somewhat accurate. They may be off, but clearly a buttload of Chromebooks were dumped on consumers during this time period. You can see this by looking closely at Amazon. There are too many comments from buyers with histories to have this be anything but a large number of actual sales.
However, I'd be shocked to also see usage stats mirror the sales. Usage is going to trail waaaaay behind.
You also get $1500 worth of google drive storage, which some people care about. A lot. So, don't be so quick to judge.
I think chromebook pixel is one of the worst new products of 2013. It's basically a net book that cost $1500. But it does come with 100mb of data for two years LoL. It's such a loser product I don't even know where start. When I read the first reviews I laughed out loud how pathetic the specs were for a $2000 device.
Think of it as the (free!) bonus for getting three years of terabyte of google drive. If you don't care about the cloud storage, well, then maybe it is not for you, but otherwise, the pricing (negative) is hard to beat (and by the way, I do have a terabyte of google drive, and I don't have a chromebook).
I'm sick of all this cheap trash google brings out. In a few months chromebooks will be Netbooks 2.0. My wish is Apple roll out a search engine to go head to head with Google and charge low rates for ads to erode Googles ad profits
Apple knows what it is good at, and is sticking to that (the little maps hiccup notwithstanding).
Are Mikey Campbell's posts designed as a setup for DED? It seems all his stories are of the brain-dead "Apple is doomed" type that DED rails against. Seems Appleinsider needs to do a little housekeeping with their staff..
Mikey Campbell's I think is an alias DED uses based on what others have said:
You also get $1500 worth of google drive storage, which some people care about. A lot.
Well, no companies, no inventors, no one doing any business whatsoever… That narrows it down a bit. Private citizens, but who knows or cares enough to want $1500 worth free, and what private citizen doing nothing of any worth would then want that space?
Ummm, in case you haven't noticed wifi is ubiquitous!!!! And in the rest of the world (non-US) our iPhone hotspot functionality is not disabled by greedy carrier agreements.
My iPhone(s) function perfectly well as hotspots in the US. Have the greedy carriers been neutralized?
Years after netbooks were declared dead, people have totally forgotten their failings and in fact have regressed even further to the crap that is a "Chromebook."
Cheap, slow, browser- and Google-dependent gimmicks, some of which don't even have a Delete key. These are not real computers.
The computing market is just another reflection of how ignorant people have become.
Who the hell needs 1 terabyte of cloud storage yet is satisfied with having only a pathetic 64gb of local storage? Plus no way in hell am I handing over google 1 Tb of info to data mine.
I guess in an absolute sense any product could be usefully for someone with very specific needs. But would'nt it be cheaper to set up your own cloud server with multiple terabyte drives?
Well, if you have 1TB of cloud storage, you don't need as much local storage (unless you are in the dropbox model, where all your data is locally cached on all your machines, which is fine, if you have a lot of money to spend on local drives). As for the rest, do you really think you have 1TB worth of mineable data? I know I don't, but I certainly have a lot of experimental data, spreadsheets, calendars, etc, which I like being able to share with my coworkers. As for it being cheaper to set up, etc, depends what you want. Google does have useful tools, and your data really is available 24/7 pretty much around the globe. Now, this might not matter, or it might. I personally don't believe it matters to enough people to make a huge difference in Pixel sales, all that I am saying is that the Pixel is a very good deal for some people.
why would a corporation (security paranoid) want google tracking your every click on chrome books
Completely. I can't conceive they have any traction at all at the corporate level, especially with how our lack of net privacy has been such a news topic this year. I don't believe there's no place for them a certain niche but it can't possibly include mid level to major businesses. I haven't been in an office this year that would consider Chromebooks for that reason, much less that was actually using any.
If you are using AT&T or Verizon you will get charged a fee for hotspoting. Tmobile allows 2gb of hotspoting with their unlimited plan
I have AT&T, Verizon, AND T-mobile. On the first two I have shared data plans, so no extra fees. On T-mobile, as you say, no fee either, though accessibility is a little sketchy at times. I was in Europe (Germany) for a while at the end of 2011 and hot spotting was a huge pain (performance sucked, prices were high, availability was low). So, I would say, the US situation is quite good.
Completely. I can't conceive they have any traction at all at the corporate level, especially with how our lack of net privacy has been such a news topic this year. I don't believe there's no place for them a certain niche but it can't possibly include mid level to major businesses. I haven't been in an office this year that would consider Chromebooks for that reason, much less that was actually using any.
Given that NSA already reads all our mail, why do you care that Google does too? I am guessing Google is less evil and more competent (though admittedly, those are low bars to clear).
I've only seen 2 chromebooks out and about. One was at my work place in IT where they were testing/doing a trial with it to see if it was with it. It was discarded after a week or so and business continued as usual. The other is my niece's. The high school she goes to provided it to her. She only uses it when she has to (which is for not very much). She says it is wretched, hard to use device and a waste of money. She does all her work on a MacBook Air and an ipad her parents provided for her.
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I believe you will find that NPD is a firm that provides services to various companies. Samsung happens to be one of their customers. Look at all of their reports and you will find statistics that support Samsung, irrespective of any hard facts that can be verified. I wish we could go back to the days that information was accurate and unbiased.
As Chromebooks are (if I understand correctly) nearly completely dependent on the cloud, it's not surprising they'd not be seen in the wild. Absent someone using their phone as a wi-fi hotspot, or visiting a venue with wi-fi, Chromebooks would be stranded. I expect you might see more of them in homes and offices equipped with wi-fi.
Ummm, in case you haven't noticed wifi is ubiquitous!!!! And in the rest of the world (non-US) our iPhone hotspot functionality is not disabled by greedy carrier agreements.
This is such a BS report from NPD. It does not include Apple store sales, Apple corporate team / account sales, nor BYOD, rendering the whole report meaningless.
Yes, but in many of those cases I need to remember to save music to my computer and consciously manage that. iCloud allows my content to be everywhere, but does not require an internet connection once the content is there and it all happens without me having to think about it. That's just one for instance. Question: If I have a spreadsheet online and get somewhere with no Internet connection, can I view and edit that spreadsheet if I did not save a copy locally? In looking at the Google Drive app reviews, it does not appear so (or at least is not the default) but I could be wrong.
It's not ubiquitous. Try turning on a microwave. WiFi shuts off because it runs in the same narrow spectrum (2.4Ghz) unless you are using 5 Ghz range. Here's another one... try using WiFi or cellular data at a concert. Guess what? Too much RF and overloaded cell towers can take it down in a hurry. I'm traveling to NAMM (National Association of Music Manufacturers) in Anaheim, CA at the end of January. They NEVER have any Internet that works. Why? 500,000 people and twice as many electronic devices make any network non-functional.
For mission critical operations, you cannot depending on WiFi always being there.
Here's the deal with Chromebooks: If you use the computer for web surfing, email, spreadsheets, word processing, social media, media viewing, or the things that mobile computers are used for 99% of the time, a Chromebook is just fine. If you need to run a specific piece of software that requires a windows or OSx computer, then you need a Windows or OSx computer.
My son had been pushing me to get a Chromebook Pixel for months,...
I don't understand why the Chromebook Pixel even exists. This may sound like an Android/PC price/spec fanboy, but in this case the comparison is so extreme... for $200 more than a MacBook Air 13", you're getting 32GB of storage (versus 128GB for the MBA), half the battery life, an older i5 and lesser graphics all in a package that can't run any common software. I just don't understand why one wouldn't just save that $200 and buy a MBA which allows so much more usage.
I guess I'm not so alone as it's not really the Pixel that's selling, but rather the lower end (starting under $200) that are selling such high numbers.
At least with those low-end Chromebooks, I can see them selling for the same reason why netbooks sold, it's an impulse purchase that draws people in because it's so cheap. Later, they'll discover that they aren't as useful as they'd hope they'd be.
I believe the NPD numbers are somewhat accurate. They may be off, but clearly a buttload of Chromebooks were dumped on consumers during this time period. You can see this by looking closely at Amazon. There are too many comments from buyers with histories to have this be anything but a large number of actual sales.
However, I'd be shocked to also see usage stats mirror the sales. Usage is going to trail waaaaay behind.
I don't understand why the Chromebook Pixel even exists. This may sound like an Android/PC price/spec fanboy, but in this case the comparison is so extreme... for $200 more than a MacBook Air 13", you're getting 32GB of storage (versus 128GB for the MBA), half the battery life, an older i5 and lesser graphics all in a package that can't run any common software. I just don't understand why one wouldn't just save that $200 and buy a MBA which allows so much more usage.
I guess I'm not so alone as it's not really the Pixel that's selling, but rather the lower end (starting under $200) that are selling such high numbers.
At least with those low-end Chromebooks, I can see them selling for the same reason why netbooks sold, it's an impulse purchase that draws people in because it's so cheap. Later, they'll discover that they aren't as useful as they'd hope they'd be.
I believe the NPD numbers are somewhat accurate. They may be off, but clearly a buttload of Chromebooks were dumped on consumers during this time period. You can see this by looking closely at Amazon. There are too many comments from buyers with histories to have this be anything but a large number of actual sales.
However, I'd be shocked to also see usage stats mirror the sales. Usage is going to trail waaaaay behind.
You also get $1500 worth of google drive storage, which some people care about. A lot. So, don't be so quick to judge.
I think chromebook pixel is one of the worst new products of 2013. It's basically a net book that cost $1500. But it does come with 100mb of data for two years LoL. It's such a loser product I don't even know where start. When I read the first reviews I laughed out loud how pathetic the specs were for a $2000 device.
Think of it as the (free!) bonus for getting three years of terabyte of google drive. If you don't care about the cloud storage, well, then maybe it is not for you, but otherwise, the pricing (negative) is hard to beat (and by the way, I do have a terabyte of google drive, and I don't have a chromebook).
I'm sick of all this cheap trash google brings out. In a few months chromebooks will be Netbooks 2.0. My wish is Apple roll out a search engine to go head to head with Google and charge low rates for ads to erode Googles ad profits
Apple knows what it is good at, and is sticking to that (the little maps hiccup notwithstanding).
Mikey Campbell's I think is an alias DED uses based on what others have said:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/159508/hands-on-with-the-new-64-bit-a7-powered-iphone-5s-with-new-m7-camera-features-touch-id/120#post_2397407
Well, no companies, no inventors, no one doing any business whatsoever… That narrows it down a bit. Private citizens, but who knows or cares enough to want $1500 worth free, and what private citizen doing nothing of any worth would then want that space?
Ummm, in case you haven't noticed wifi is ubiquitous!!!! And in the rest of the world (non-US) our iPhone hotspot functionality is not disabled by greedy carrier agreements.
My iPhone(s) function perfectly well as hotspots in the US. Have the greedy carriers been neutralized?
In other news, toilet paper outsold engineering text books by 100 to 1
Most people find TP far more useful.
Cheap, slow, browser- and Google-dependent gimmicks, some of which don't even have a Delete key. These are not real computers.
The computing market is just another reflection of how ignorant people have become.
At least some netbooks could run Office and iTunes.
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Who the hell needs 1 terabyte of cloud storage yet is satisfied with having only a pathetic 64gb of local storage? Plus no way in hell am I handing over google 1 Tb of info to data mine.
I guess in an absolute sense any product could be usefully for someone with very specific needs. But would'nt it be cheaper to set up your own cloud server with multiple terabyte drives?
Well, if you have 1TB of cloud storage, you don't need as much local storage (unless you are in the dropbox model, where all your data is locally cached on all your machines, which is fine, if you have a lot of money to spend on local drives). As for the rest, do you really think you have 1TB worth of mineable data? I know I don't, but I certainly have a lot of experimental data, spreadsheets, calendars, etc, which I like being able to share with my coworkers. As for it being cheaper to set up, etc, depends what you want. Google does have useful tools, and your data really is available 24/7 pretty much around the globe. Now, this might not matter, or it might. I personally don't believe it matters to enough people to make a huge difference in Pixel sales, all that I am saying is that the Pixel is a very good deal for some people.
why would a corporation (security paranoid) want google tracking your every click on chrome books
Completely. I can't conceive they have any traction at all at the corporate level, especially with how our lack of net privacy has been such a news topic this year. I don't believe there's no place for them a certain niche but it can't possibly include mid level to major businesses. I haven't been in an office this year that would consider Chromebooks for that reason, much less that was actually using any.
If you are using AT&T or Verizon you will get charged a fee for hotspoting. Tmobile allows 2gb of hotspoting with their unlimited plan
I have AT&T, Verizon, AND T-mobile. On the first two I have shared data plans, so no extra fees. On T-mobile, as you say, no fee either, though accessibility is a little sketchy at times. I was in Europe (Germany) for a while at the end of 2011 and hot spotting was a huge pain (performance sucked, prices were high, availability was low). So, I would say, the US situation is quite good.
Completely. I can't conceive they have any traction at all at the corporate level, especially with how our lack of net privacy has been such a news topic this year. I don't believe there's no place for them a certain niche but it can't possibly include mid level to major businesses. I haven't been in an office this year that would consider Chromebooks for that reason, much less that was actually using any.
Given that NSA already reads all our mail, why do you care that Google does too? I am guessing Google is less evil and more competent (though admittedly, those are low bars to clear).