Just curious why if seems every time one company offers a feature or device in any way similar to that offered by another the only word used by a select few to describe it is "stolen". Simply being the first to offer something doesn't mean every one that follows else is therefor a thief no matter the changes, additions or improvements.
Makes it nearly impossible to have a level-headed intelligent discussion when a small handful of posters try to frame topics in black and white in an attempt to stifle the conversation. I'm pretty sure all our members are intelligent enough to recognize nuances instead of seeing only the extremes. It's a very disingenuous strategy IMHO and doesn't encourage logical debate or discourse.
Just my 2 cents.
All you say is true, but given your number of posts, you presumably know better then believing that you can convince the rabid minority (we know who they are) of the error of their ways.
I don't believe Apple has any ownership of ARM anymore despite they were one of the founders (Acorn, Apple, and VLSI). Pretty sure they divested themselves early in Jobs' return to Apple as one way to get cash back to fund Apple's "rebirth". They are now licensees like many others. Of course, they are also the first ones to bring a product to market with the 64 bit core / architecture.
According to the Wikipedia article on Arm Holdings, Apple's share had fallen to 14.2% by 1999.
An Android device. Increasing battery life. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Actually, the top several smartphones by battery life are Android devices (Sony being the best, followed by LG, Moto, and HTC, though the top 15 lists generally contain the Galaxy Notes, not so much the Galaxy S phones), the iPhone struggles to make the top 20. In any case, if you can read (it seems you can only write, or maybe Siri does it for you), google "four big, four little".
I find it interesting how everyone bashes the Galaxy's battery life. My S4 goes two days with moderate use. I will give it to Apple that their OS is great at power management, but I see so many ignorant comments about Samsung products from people that have never owned a Samsung phone and have their iPhone halfway up their a$s.
S4 has a very big battery because the phone is oversized.
Just curious why if seems every time one company offers a feature or device in any way similar to that offered by another the only word used by a select few to describe it is "stolen". Simply being the first to offer something doesn't mean every one that follows else is therefor a thief no matter the changes, additions or improvements. :rolleyes:
Makes it nearly impossible to have a level-headed intelligent discussion when a small handful of posters try to frame topics in black and white in an attempt to stifle the conversation. I'm pretty sure all our members are intelligent enough to recognize nuances instead of seeing only the extremes. It's a very disingenuous strategy IMHO and doesn't encourage logical debate or discourse.
Just my 2 cents.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
Android users are notorious for thinking they had everything first. I can't count the number of "iOS 7 is just a ripoff of Android........" posts I've seen since iOS 7 was first revealed.
Well Apple removing certain parts supply from Samsung definitely has delayed their copying. Even their eventual copy will surely be inferior due to their limited information.
Here is Anandtech's evaluation of battery life. Interesting how some claim that iPhone 5S struggles to make the top 20 list but Anandtech demonstrates otherwise for Wi-Fi and 4G LTE based browsing. The iPhone 5S does have shorter talk time which is a direct result of not carrying around a car battery attached to the phone while web browsing is dependent on much more than just the radio.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
Android users are notorious for thinking they had everything first. I can't count the number of "iOS 7 is just a ripoff of Android........" posts I've seen since iOS 7 was first revealed.
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
You continue to waste your own time and emotions. Most people here are not interested in real facts. They debate by trying to out-Google each other, as if searching for headlines is real education. They defend Apple (or Google) because taking one side gives them the right to piss on the other side. Defending Apple makes them feel better about themselves. Give up the crusade. Most here are not interested in discussing technology. They don't know it and don't care about it.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
Android users are notorious for thinking they had everything first. I can't count the number of "iOS 7 is just a ripoff of Android........" posts I've seen since iOS 7 was first revealed.
Yup that too, tho you've stretched your thought balloon pretty tight claiming it's common for Android users to say they had everything first. Notorious? :rolleyes: Maybe someone somewhere said it once.
Here is Anandtech's evaluation of battery life. Interesting how some claim that iPhone 5S struggles to make the top 20 list but Anandtech demonstrates otherwise for Wi-Fi and 4G LTE based browsing. The iPhone 5S does have shorter talk time which is a direct result of not carrying around a car battery attached to the phone while web browsing is dependent on much more than just the radio.
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
It's the same reason why people practice organized religion. Since no reason is involved, you can't really argue, you can just ignore them.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
The argument over which party "invented" the fingerprint sensor is pretty silly. The idea of fingerprint based unlocking for electronic devices is nothing new and has been on laptops for years. Motorola's implementation of fingerprint-based unlocking on the Atrix was similar in concept to what Apple has done on the 5s. Both implementations place the sensor on the primary button used to wake up the device, which in Android's case is the power button, not the home button. The main difference is that 5s uses a sensor that is several years newer.
Assuming their PDAF implementation is good. Sony (I think) had issues with theirs although nikon nailed it in their small sensor implementation. Evidently it is non-trivial even for companies with a lot of camera sensor experience to get right the first time.
It should be noted that Samsung DOES have a lot of camera sensor experience, though they are not as well known in that world as Sony and Nikon.
In my experience Synaptics builds terribly buggy touch pads so that bodes very well for "me too, me too!" Samsung's fingerprint touch efforts.
I always thought that Apple used Synaptics' technology, but apparently not. They went from using Cirque's GlidePoint in the first PowerBooks to their own trackpad tech. I must say, I have yet to use a PC notebook with a trackpad as good as every Mac that I've ever used. Nothing compares.
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Battery life: 1 second...
No, the eight core ARM is to INCREASE battery life. Get a clue.
Just curious why if seems every time one company offers a feature or device in any way similar to that offered by another the only word used by a select few to describe it is "stolen". Simply being the first to offer something doesn't mean every one that follows else is therefor a thief no matter the changes, additions or improvements.
Makes it nearly impossible to have a level-headed intelligent discussion when a small handful of posters try to frame topics in black and white in an attempt to stifle the conversation. I'm pretty sure all our members are intelligent enough to recognize nuances instead of seeing only the extremes. It's a very disingenuous strategy IMHO and doesn't encourage logical debate or discourse.
Just my 2 cents.
All you say is true, but given your number of posts, you presumably know better then believing that you can convince the rabid minority (we know who they are) of the error of their ways.
Absolutely.
An Android device. Increasing battery life.
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I don't believe Apple has any ownership of ARM anymore despite they were one of the founders (Acorn, Apple, and VLSI). Pretty sure they divested themselves early in Jobs' return to Apple as one way to get cash back to fund Apple's "rebirth". They are now licensees like many others. Of course, they are also the first ones to bring a product to market with the 64 bit core / architecture.
According to the Wikipedia article on Arm Holdings, Apple's share had fallen to 14.2% by 1999.
Absolutely.
An Android device. Increasing battery life.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Actually, the top several smartphones by battery life are Android devices (Sony being the best, followed by LG, Moto, and HTC, though the top 15 lists generally contain the Galaxy Notes, not so much the Galaxy S phones), the iPhone struggles to make the top 20. In any case, if you can read (it seems you can only write, or maybe Siri does it for you), google "four big, four little".
I find it interesting how everyone bashes the Galaxy's battery life. My S4 goes two days with moderate use. I will give it to Apple that their OS is great at power management, but I see so many ignorant comments about Samsung products from people that have never owned a Samsung phone and have their iPhone halfway up their a$s.
S4 has a very big battery because the phone is oversized.
Android users are notorious for thinking they had everything first. I can't count the number of "iOS 7 is just a ripoff of Android........" posts I've seen since iOS 7 was first revealed.
Well Apple removing certain parts supply from Samsung definitely has delayed their copying. Even their eventual copy will surely be inferior due to their limited information.
Way to go Apple!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9
Makes you wonder if Samsung has now accepted their position as cheap copy cat.
If it were not called "S5", it would look a bit less like a me-too product.
Makes you wonder if Samsung has now accepted their position as cheap copy cat.
Galaxy S june 2010
Galaxy S II may 2011
Galaxy S III may 2012
Galaxy S 4 apr-2013 (because most people can only count in roman numerals up to 3)
Galaxy S 5
They have used the S+(iteration) name for years now, can hardly accuse them of copying 5S to S5.
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Sure thing, Éowyn.
Ahah, nice that you got that. It came to my mind and I just couldn't resist. Sorry :P. I love drama.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
Android users are notorious for thinking they had everything first. I can't count the number of "iOS 7 is just a ripoff of Android........" posts I've seen since iOS 7 was first revealed.
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
You continue to waste your own time and emotions. Most people here are not interested in real facts. They debate by trying to out-Google each other, as if searching for headlines is real education. They defend Apple (or Google) because taking one side gives them the right to piss on the other side. Defending Apple makes them feel better about themselves. Give up the crusade. Most here are not interested in discussing technology. They don't know it and don't care about it.
Yup that too, tho you've stretched your thought balloon pretty tight claiming it's common for Android users to say they had everything first. Notorious? :rolleyes: Maybe someone somewhere said it once.
Anyway I mentioned specifically that yesterday.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/161719/apples-iphone-5c-boasts-most-available-advertised-memory-samsung-galaxy-s4-declared-biggest-memory-hog/80#post_2462819
Here is Anandtech's evaluation of battery life. Interesting how some claim that iPhone 5S struggles to make the top 20 list but Anandtech demonstrates otherwise for Wi-Fi and 4G LTE based browsing. The iPhone 5S does have shorter talk time which is a direct result of not carrying around a car battery attached to the phone while web browsing is dependent on much more than just the radio.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Mobile-Olympics-phones-with-the-best-battery-life_id50426#16-Sony-Xperia-L
So what. The pissing contest between iOS and Android users is just so jejune. Neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them. Yet, you guys invest (read waste) time and emotions insulting each other, often arguing on the basis of misunderstood technical issues. Why point fingers at each other at all? Why does it matter if Android (or Apple) users think they are first or last? Can't everyone just enjoy their devices without engaging in a ridiculous fight in which everyone is wrong 90% of the time?
It's the same reason why people practice organized religion. Since no reason is involved, you can't really argue, you can just ignore them.
You mean like Android users claiming the notification centre was ripped off Android or the Atrix had a fingerprint sensor first? Or Control Centre?
The argument over which party "invented" the fingerprint sensor is pretty silly. The idea of fingerprint based unlocking for electronic devices is nothing new and has been on laptops for years. Motorola's implementation of fingerprint-based unlocking on the Atrix was similar in concept to what Apple has done on the 5s. Both implementations place the sensor on the primary button used to wake up the device, which in Android's case is the power button, not the home button. The main difference is that 5s uses a sensor that is several years newer.
Assuming their PDAF implementation is good. Sony (I think) had issues with theirs although nikon nailed it in their small sensor implementation. Evidently it is non-trivial even for companies with a lot of camera sensor experience to get right the first time.
It should be noted that Samsung DOES have a lot of camera sensor experience, though they are not as well known in that world as Sony and Nikon.
In my experience Synaptics builds terribly buggy touch pads so that bodes very well for "me too, me too!" Samsung's fingerprint touch efforts.
I always thought that Apple used Synaptics' technology, but apparently not. They went from using Cirque's GlidePoint in the first PowerBooks to their own trackpad tech. I must say, I have yet to use a PC notebook with a trackpad as good as every Mac that I've ever used. Nothing compares.