I think they made a mistake by not offering black as an option. The colors to me seem a bit gaudy. I think darker shades would have had a larger appeal. But at the end of the day why not pay $100 more for a faster phone with far more features as well as being in a metal case. I think there had to be around $150 difference for people to choose a 5c. Of course Apple hopes customers will go for a 5s, but how many that are very price conscious didn't go with a Nexus 5 or similar instead that is $200 cheaper but arguably as good if not better phone.
Colors are easy to rectify. Perhaps Apple didn't want colors that looked too similar to Windows 8 phones. If the 5C sticks around I expect the color offerings will be different.
Either you’re illiterate or you didn’t read the post.
Your post or his? I understood both. He was saying the cheap phone wasn't cheap, you said if never was meant to be. I then suggested it shouldn't have looked cheap. He and I were engaged on an (obvious) play on words as cheap in this context means gaudy. So a cheap(/gaudy) phone should be cheap(/inexpensive).
You're a strange fish. I recall you opposing plastic phones in any shape at any price. I was disappointed with the price. In retrospect both of us were right ( if the 5 were continued and sold as well or better than the 5C it would have made better margins because of the sunk production costs).
But in your rush to defend all things Apple/Cook you forget your previous arguments.
Your post or his? I understood both. He was saying the cheap phone wasn't cheap, you said if never was meant to be. I then suggested it shouldn't have looked cheap. He and I were engaged on an (obvious) play on words as cheap in this context means gaudy. So a cheap(/gaudy) phone should be cheap(/inexpensive).
You're a strange fish. I recall you opposing plastic phones in any shape at any price. I was disappointed with the price. In retrospect both of us were right ( if the 5 were continued and sold as well or better than the 5C it would have made better margins because of the sunk production costs).
But in your rush to defend all things Apple/Cook you forget your previous arguments.
Everyone understood what you meant. Well, everyone except the person that called you illiterate apparently. Perhaps you need to be more sarcastic and use those childish ¡ marks to get your point across.
That's 'caus it's too expensive... why buy the 5C when you can pay a little more to get the 5S?
Why is it considered expensive while it's actually the same as iPhone 5 which was suppose to be slashed price to the same ($99) if it wasn't discontinued? The plastic back replacing metal one wasn't cheaper to produce, just easier. If Apple kept iPhone 5 at $99, it's not considered expensive in people's misconception (because they think the plastic back cost $99 less to produce and so iPhone 5c should've been free...duh!)
Everyone called me a hater when it first came out, but the price difference simply wasn't great enough between the 5c and the 5s. If the off-contract price of the 5c had been around $350 or $400 Apple would have had a hit on their hands. I was in the market for a new for on Virgin Mobile, and if the 5c had been available in that range I would have seriously considered it. As it was I went with the Galaxy S3.
I just find it funny that people who don't like something, have to convince themselves that it's wrong and is failing. I've seen this reaction with the 5c as well as iOS 7 - as with any new and drastic changes made to most things in life.
You see, MJ, it's not about me not liking something. "Sometimes" other people are just correct about their assessment of a situation. Not everything that Apple makes has that golden glow... nor does it need to have it.
No, sorry, they weren’t talking about gaudiness. Grow up.
Originally Posted by fallenjt
Why is it considered expensive while it's actually the same as iPhone 5 which was suppose to be slashed price to the same ($99) if it wasn't discontinued? The plastic back replacing metal one wasn't cheaper to produce, just easier. If Apple kept iPhone 5 at $99, it's not considered expensive in people's misconception (because they think the plastic back cost $99 less to produce and so iPhone 5c should've been free...duh!)
One problem is that I think consumers were confused-even those familiar with iPhone.There appeared to be significant uncertainty about what it was among those who do not follow tech blogs. Apple did not define the 5C as "last years phone", but many others in the press and casual conversation did. However, on the other hand the case was new....then the 4S was still hanging around, and some people new that China had the 4, or something like that. A real marketing and advertising mess. Apple needs to stick with only two form factors. Adjusting the price and colors will only go so far if Apple fails to take more control over the marketing.
Having said that, I could tell that it wasn't selling well (but wouldn't have dared to say that here). Living in NYC where iPhones are everywhere and being a college professor that comes into contact with a very large number of young adults, I saw only two in the wild (a bright green one that I spotted from a block away and a student had a white one). No one in the class, most of whom had an iPhone-even some 5s and 5Ss had any idea why or how it was different from the 5 or 5s (besides the colors, of course) and could not conceive of its functional value. The answer to the question, "Why should I buy this?" should not be, "Look at the colors!".
The 5C was new, but it wasn't new. It's cheaper, but it was just as good as the 5/5S...but it really was just as good, but it was $100 cheaper. Any initial curiosity or good will was squandered by confusion and an underlying sense by some that Apple was trying to get one over on them-selling an "old" phone as new.
Personally, the problem I saw with the candy colored plastic cases was not build quality or the perceived sophistication of the colors; it was that those very bright colors shouted, "Hey, I'm that new iPhone, steal me!!!"
Mind you, it is a new phone with some older parts and some newer parts, but that seems to have been lost on most potential consumers....
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I think they made a mistake by not offering black as an option. The colors to me seem a bit gaudy. I think darker shades would have had a larger appeal. But at the end of the day why not pay $100 more for a faster phone with far more features as well as being in a metal case. I think there had to be around $150 difference for people to choose a 5c. Of course Apple hopes customers will go for a 5s, but how many that are very price conscious didn't go with a Nexus 5 or similar instead that is $200 cheaper but arguably as good if not better phone.
Maybe if the colours didn't look so much like an easter bonnet they would have sold better?
Maybe if the colours didn't look so much like an easter bonnet they would have sold better?
I said the same thing above. I think a nice Royal blue would have been far more appealing than the olympic blue they chose. Something like this.
Either you’re illiterate or you didn’t read the post.
If I recall correctly, even Scott Forstall was made from plastic, and look what happened to him.
Your post or his? I understood both. He was saying the cheap phone wasn't cheap, you said if never was meant to be. I then suggested it shouldn't have looked cheap. He and I were engaged on an (obvious) play on words as cheap in this context means gaudy. So a cheap(/gaudy) phone should be cheap(/inexpensive).
You're a strange fish. I recall you opposing plastic phones in any shape at any price. I was disappointed with the price. In retrospect both of us were right ( if the 5 were continued and sold as well or better than the 5C it would have made better margins because of the sunk production costs).
But in your rush to defend all things Apple/Cook you forget your previous arguments.
But it was made out of cheap plastic.
Who says it looked cheap?!
Oh, yes. That’s obviously what you were doing¡
Wow, I’ve certainly never been wrong before, huh¡
That’s you.
My new sig.
Touch ID did not excite me.
You don't get excited when you get Touchid?
Your post or his? I understood both. He was saying the cheap phone wasn't cheap, you said if never was meant to be. I then suggested it shouldn't have looked cheap. He and I were engaged on an (obvious) play on words as cheap in this context means gaudy. So a cheap(/gaudy) phone should be cheap(/inexpensive).
You're a strange fish. I recall you opposing plastic phones in any shape at any price. I was disappointed with the price. In retrospect both of us were right ( if the 5 were continued and sold as well or better than the 5C it would have made better margins because of the sunk production costs).
But in your rush to defend all things Apple/Cook you forget your previous arguments.
Everyone understood what you meant. Well, everyone except the person that called you illiterate apparently. Perhaps you need to be more sarcastic and use those childish ¡ marks to get your point across.
He doesn't get that you can like apple and criticise the leadership.
Anyway I am disappointed with Cook so far but expect great things this year. Now. To bed.
That's 'caus it's too expensive... why buy the 5C when you can pay a little more to get the 5S?
Why is it considered expensive while it's actually the same as iPhone 5 which was suppose to be slashed price to the same ($99) if it wasn't discontinued? The plastic back replacing metal one wasn't cheaper to produce, just easier. If Apple kept iPhone 5 at $99, it's not considered expensive in people's misconception (because they think the plastic back cost $99 less to produce and so iPhone 5c should've been free...duh!)
From another thread:
I just find it funny that people who don't like something, have to convince themselves that it's wrong and is failing. I've seen this reaction with the 5c as well as iOS 7 - as with any new and drastic changes made to most things in life.
You see, MJ, it's not about me not liking something. "Sometimes" other people are just correct about their assessment of a situation. Not everything that Apple makes has that golden glow... nor does it need to have it.
No, sorry, they weren’t talking about gaudiness. Grow up.
Why is it considered expensive while it's actually the same as iPhone 5 which was suppose to be slashed price to the same ($99) if it wasn't discontinued? The plastic back replacing metal one wasn't cheaper to produce, just easier. If Apple kept iPhone 5 at $99, it's not considered expensive in people's misconception (because they think the plastic back cost $99 less to produce and so iPhone 5c should've been free...duh!)
Exactly.
One problem is that I think consumers were confused-even those familiar with iPhone.There appeared to be significant uncertainty about what it was among those who do not follow tech blogs. Apple did not define the 5C as "last years phone", but many others in the press and casual conversation did. However, on the other hand the case was new....then the 4S was still hanging around, and some people new that China had the 4, or something like that. A real marketing and advertising mess. Apple needs to stick with only two form factors. Adjusting the price and colors will only go so far if Apple fails to take more control over the marketing.
Having said that, I could tell that it wasn't selling well (but wouldn't have dared to say that here). Living in NYC where iPhones are everywhere and being a college professor that comes into contact with a very large number of young adults, I saw only two in the wild (a bright green one that I spotted from a block away and a student had a white one). No one in the class, most of whom had an iPhone-even some 5s and 5Ss had any idea why or how it was different from the 5 or 5s (besides the colors, of course) and could not conceive of its functional value. The answer to the question, "Why should I buy this?" should not be, "Look at the colors!".
The 5C was new, but it wasn't new. It's cheaper, but it was just as good as the 5/5S...but it really was just as good, but it was $100 cheaper. Any initial curiosity or good will was squandered by confusion and an underlying sense by some that Apple was trying to get one over on them-selling an "old" phone as new.
Personally, the problem I saw with the candy colored plastic cases was not build quality or the perceived sophistication of the colors; it was that those very bright colors shouted, "Hey, I'm that new iPhone, steal me!!!"
Mind you, it is a new phone with some older parts and some newer parts, but that seems to have been lost on most potential consumers....