Apple intensifies research into quantum dot-enhanced displays

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  • Reply 21 of 39
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    This also sounds like it could produce some eye-popping razor-thin 4K monitors or TVs.



     


    Sony is already using QD tech in their "TRILUMINOS" TVs. [Display Central article link]
  • Reply 22 of 39
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    imember wrote: »
    not sure about OLED having accurate colors but if u say that was improved ok then

    I don't think there is any inherent reason OLED can't be accurate but it could be too costly and/or have adverse power consumption issues compared to LCD. But we're talking about a watch face here so I'd say being excessively accurate like an iPhone display is neither a medium or high priority for such a device. If it's possible without much effort or cost then do it but if not it's not an issue.
  • Reply 23 of 39
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I don't think there is any inherent reason OLED can't be accurate but it could be too costly and/or have adverse power consumption issues compared to LCD. But we're talking about a watch face here so I'd say being excessively accurate like an iPhone display is neither a medium or high priority for such a device. If it's possible without much effort or cost then do it but if not it's not an issue.

    ...that's over your self-imposed post limit. Sorry, but you're cut-off. :p
  • Reply 24 of 39
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    Maybe you both need to read a bit more about quantum mechanics and quantum effects before writing nonsense.


     

    Well if it isn't Dr. Sheldon Cooper.  Care to elaborate?

  • Reply 25 of 39

    This could mean the display in the 7th generation iPad that will be released in 2015 will have:

     

    - Sapphire glass for the top layer

    - quantum dot layer

    - MEMS shutter layer

    - bottom glass

    - backlight

     

    This sounds really futuristic.

  • Reply 26 of 39
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    Well if it isn't Dr. Sheldon Cooper.  Care to elaborate?


     

    Why yes I would. Not!

     

    Here is a nice article to get some basic understanding on the topic of MEMS and nanotechnologies, including the link between those:

    https://www.mems-exchange.org/MEMS/what-is.html

    That should be enough on the "moving parts" comment.

     

    DLP is mostly used in projectors and TV sets, not small screens. Currently no company plans on using that technology in phones or tablets, Well, apart from the small and/or built-in projectors. DLP has been around for quite some time, what makes anyone think Apple engineers are not aware of it?

     

    Other than that, I am always bewildered by forum posters who think they are more competent than engineers and researchers working on and developing those technologies.

  • Reply 27 of 39
    capasicum wrote: »

    Other than that, I am always bewildered by forum posters who think they are more competent than engineers and researchers working on and developing those technologies.
    So what are you trying to do? Kill 90% of the Internet? I fully agree though, see my sig :smokey:
  • Reply 28 of 39
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    So what are you trying to do? Kill 90% of the Internet? I fully agree though, see my sig image

    Killing is illegal, isn't it? <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 29 of 39
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    Why yes I would. Not!

     

    Here is a nice article to get some basic understanding on the topic of MEMS and nanotechnologies, including the link between those:

    https://www.mems-exchange.org/MEMS/what-is.html

    That should be enough on the "moving parts" comment.

     

    DLP is mostly used in projectors and TV sets, not small screens. Currently no company plans on using that technology in phones or tablets, Well, apart from the small and/or built-in projectors. DLP has been around for quite some time, what makes anyone think Apple engineers are not aware of it?

     


    I think the point is that DLP is indeed mechanical, which is why I asked for clarification since your terse and rather derogatory reply seemed to imply that it wasn't.  No one was arguing about the use of DLP in a mobile device or that Apple isn't aware of it, it was just an example of a system with "moving parts" that works quite well and is very reliable despite that fact.

     

    And while we're splitting hairs, what's wrong with the suggestion that MEMS is based on mechanical components too?  It is technically true after all, even if mechanical components on the nano scale behave quite differently than they do on the macro scale.  So a better response to the OP would have been: 

     

    "Don't worry about nano scale moving parts, they're much more reliable than big moving parts.  The iPhone's existing sensors (accelerometer, gyroscope) are MEMS-based after all."

     


    Other than that, I am always bewildered by forum posters who think they are more competent than engineers and researchers working on and developing those technologies.


     

    And while I agree with this statement, I don't think it was really the case here.

  • Reply 30 of 39
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    Well it isn't even about cost, color accuracy, wider gamuts, wider view range etc.
    In every one of these category there is / are already better alternative out there.

    The problem is energy usage.
  • Reply 31 of 39
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    I think the point is that DLP is indeed mechanical, which is why I asked for clarification since your terse and rather derogatory reply seemed to imply that it wasn't.  No one was arguing about the use of DLP in a mobile device or that Apple isn't aware of it, it was just an example of a system with "moving parts" that works quite well and is very reliable despite that fact.

     

    And while we're splitting hairs, what's wrong with the suggestion that MEMS is based on mechanical components too?  It is technically true after all, even if mechanical components on the nano scale behave quite differently than they do on the macro scale.  So a better response to the OP would have been: 

     

    "Don't worry about nano scale moving parts, they're much more reliable than big moving parts.  The iPhone's existing sensors (accelerometer, gyroscope) are MEMS-based after all."

     

     

    And while I agree with this statement, I don't think it was really the case here.


     

    I  agree that it is better to give an informed and educated answers. Trolling, however, is not about knowledge. Bashing 3-word sentences and one-liners are usually exactly that. And I don't like feeding trolls.

     

    Short answers are rarely exhaustive, and so they can be challenged. That would be a win for trolls. So, I prefer not giving information but redirecting to comprehensive sources. If the troll wants to continue, they have to spend quite some time reading, and that is a win against them by itself. If they are not trolls and are really willing to learn something new, educated articles are way better than short posts, again a win.

     

    So, as I see it, my mistake was not providing reading materials in my first response. For that I apologize.

  • Reply 32 of 39
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    "Don't worry about nano scale moving parts, they're much more reliable than big moving parts.  


    This has zero meaning beyond pretence of knowledge.

  • Reply 33 of 39
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    So, as I see it, my mistake was not providing reading materials in my first response. For that I apologize.


    Your mistake was to comment on as if you know better. You clearly don't.

  • Reply 34 of 39
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    Well if it isn't Dr. Sheldon Cooper.  Care to elaborate?


    He can't, beyond quoting passages from the web that he can barely understand.

  • Reply 35 of 39
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    So, as I see it, my mistake was not providing reading materials in my first response. For that I apologize.




     

    Why don't you just admit you overreacted and move on?

     

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    This has zero meaning beyond pretence of knowledge.


     

    You must have accidentally replied to the wrong post.  It is THIS that has zero meaning beyond pretense of knowledge:

     


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    Maybe you both need to read a bit more about quantum mechanics and quantum effects before writing nonsense.


     

    What I said absolutely does have meaning in layman's terms.  You don't NEED a degree in Quantum Mechanics to have a very basic understanding of how your TV works.

  • Reply 36 of 39
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    Your mistake was to comment on as if you know better. You clearly don't.


     

    Well, I know infinitely better than you do as you have zero knowledge on the topic, that much is obvious.

     

    And even if I didn't know shit, quite a few engineers and academic scholars doing research in those technologies know far more than any idiot  bashing patent applications.

     

    Now you can go move some micro-scale mechanical "parts" around, see if they stick you your grandeur understanding of the universe.

     

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    He can't, beyond quoting passages from the web that he can barely understand.


     

    How stupid should one be to mistake a reference for a quotation? You seem to barely understand english let alone content.

  • Reply 37 of 39
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    Why don't you just admit you overreacted and move on?


     

    Yes, I did. I thought they were trolling and I overreacted.

     

    //P.S. "Part" is not a word I would use to describe components of a micro/nano-scale system (mechanism?). But, that's just me. And StruckPaper clearly stated that my brain is a tabula rasa, except I seem to be incapable of gaining knowledge. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 38 of 39
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    Maybe you both need to read a bit more about quantum mechanics and quantum effects before writing nonsense.


     

    Oooooohhhhh.....

     

    LOL <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 39 of 39
    kkerstkkerst Posts: 330member
    I only skimmed this article but it seems to me this essentially describing a digital way to recreate an interference pattern. This is one step closer to a holographic display. MIT has a similar patent on this kind of technology too, but they didn't use digital MEMS. Instead they use SAM (surface acoustic modulation) to recreate the interference pattern for reflected light. Cool stuff.
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