Good day to announce this, right after the Samsung awards last night.
I started to watch the awards last night. Ellen was pretty funny....but then the commercials started and I switched it off. Not so much because of Samsung, just the overall banality of the commercials.
No. The "bigger antennas" are the wrong wavelength. With antennas, bigger is not better. The antenna length has to be matched to the frequency band of the signals you are trying to transmit or receive on.
Size matters! (But bigger is not necessarily better!)
I think the antenna issue is even deeper than that. If I recall correctly, the FCC approved design of the phone system includes the size of the antenna. That is, the power output of the transmitter and the size of the antenna are considered together in approving the design for production and use. Further, I believe FCC regulations prohibit adding after market antennas.
Good for Apple! Looks good...Now all we need is tesla to give up on Android.
I know Maps had problems but I do like saying the address to Siri and it just opens and starts. It had a few miss-steps for me early on, but none lately.
I had the Tom Tom App for the iPhone way back in the day and I thought it was brilliant. But I had to type in the street number, then type in the street name. It was not easy to do in the car.
This will certainly influence my next car purchase. It will be a hybrid, probably a Prius or a Hybrid Highlander. Would love to get an all electric but the ranges are limiting. Telsa can go 300 miles but it's a $100,000. There's an electric motorcycle, I'm considering called the Zero, $13,000 and a non-hybrid three wheeler for $6,800 that gets 84 mpg (hwy).
I'd would actually pay money to have this installed in my 2012 GMC Terrain now. This looks far better than the crappy interface I have to deal with now. I keep it on one radio station and won't use my iPod because the current set-up is so poorly designed and doesn't work quite right with the iPod. Here's hoping this update allows me to use CarPlay over the inferior GMC interface that came with my car.
The bad news is the stereo sounds like crap. The frequency response was quite obviously tuned for the American market: loose, heavily boosted bass for the all the idiots who are going deaf and making themselves yet more stupid listening to trash music; heavily boosted treble to compensate for their inevitable high frequency hearing loss. One must turn the bass and treble down to -9 to hear any midrange at all.
On my last car purchase they tried to up sell me on a BOSE sound system. I actually laughed. BOSE....all the highs and all the lows. Nothing in the middle.
That's a huge omission in my opinion.
It's a pity Audi partnered with Google on Android based car infotainment.
It won't be for long, because if they don't it will cost them sales. CarPlay will be universal in two years most likely - three at the most. Same for whatever Android produces.
The key driving forces:
1, Universal systems. Consumers want to move their devices from vehicle to vehicle, especially in multi-car families and with rentals.
2. Commonality. The device must deliver the user interface, not the auto infotainment system. Users don't want to be coping with displays and control protocols that change from vehicle to vehicle. It's an unsafe distraction while driving.
3. Connectivity. With a physical connection, there's easy portability. Go from one car to another, drop the phone into a cradle and everything else is automatic. Never a need to waste time with Bluetooth pairing, especially when driving a new vehicle such as a rental. Two riders with different devices and different contact lists or iTunes content - undock one phone and drop in the other - simple.
4. Safety. Keep it simple - keep it verbal - avoid buttons and touchscreens that take eyes off the road. Apple understands the device user interface better than any carmaker. They should have the lead in development. Regardless of all these great new capabilities, we can never forget the overriding priority - reaching the end of our journey as safe as when we started.
1) I am surprised there is no mention of BT connectivity, but I wonder if it's just an omission since the devices listed seem to be the ones with BT4.0.
2) I don't know why anyone expected something revolutionary on the dash. It's a touchscreen you access whilst driving so it needs to be clean and simple.
3) I still contend, along with [@]Gatorguy[/@], that any exclusivity will be short-lived and that VW Group will have iOS and the others will Android access.
4) No Rolls Royce? There goes my next car purchase¡
When hardwiring the phone can it then use the bigger antennas of the car, or would it still use it's one with all the rays being reflected inside the car until they can escape through one of the windows?
They'll all end up with iOS. They'll all end up with Android too. Some just announced one before the other.
Maybe when you buy the car you will be asked, iOS or Android? ... then the dealership they set the default for the buyer. If so, them judging by the socioeconomic distribution we see now with the two OSs, the Android users will probably find this link useful: http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2013/02/06/cheapest-cars/
The interface is very ordinary. Doesn't look exciting like all the rest of Apple UI before iOS 7.
Good. It’s a car. That’s not what it’s supposed to look like. You’re supposed to be driving, not excited by your dashboard.
The background is black because anything else would be too much ambient/peripheral light for nighttime driving and would lower your outward visibility.
The UI is simple and clean with as much contrast as possible because Apple knows you’re going to be an idiot and touch the screen WHILE you’re driving, so they want you to be able to find what you’re doing as QUICKLY as possible before getting back to the only job you really have here.
Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet
YAY. Keep on keeping on.
Originally Posted by MacManFelix
I’ll add that maybe that internal stereo space could be used as a compartment into which an iDevice could be safely stored. Simple little door or something.
My reply to you Saturday where I guessed this was what was coming seems to have been 100% on the money! > Administers self congratulatory slap on back :smokey:
Good. It’s a car. That’s not what it’s supposed to look like. You’re supposed to be driving, not excited by your dashboard.
The background is black because anything else would be too much ambient/peripheral light for nighttime driving and would lower your outward visibility.
The UI is simple and clean with as much contrast as possible because Apple knows you’re going to be an idiot and touch the screen WHILE you’re driving, so they want you to be able to find what you’re doing as QUICKLY as possible before getting back to the only job you really have here.
I’ll add that maybe that internal stereo space could be used as a compartment into which an iDevice could be safely stored. Simple little door or something.
Unless the labels indicate which one is the man and women, which typically means the knobs are manipulated by the opposite sex. In that case it would be correct.
ah, this reopens the classic "open vs. closed" topic.
car makers now have to choose whether their built-in Nav/Entertainment systems will work fully with any brand ecosystem - Apple, Google, and others like MS - or are optimized for just one of them or some other proprietary service of that car maker.
(i'm not talking about simple bluetooth calling, i'm mean systems that run apps etc.)
Ford just announced it will switch from its own system - provided by MS and buggy - to a QNX core system. now it announces that will work with iOS CarPlay. i expect it will also work with whatever Google comes up with. so Ford would be taking an "open" approach. too bad for MS.
and any maker that supports iOS poorly puts itself at a strong disadvantage in the US market at least. we'll see how that plays out. they want to charge a lot extra for these Nav systems, and Droids don't like to pay.
1) I am surprised there is no mention of BT connectivity, but I wonder if it's just an omission since the devices listed seem to be the ones with BT4.0.
2) I don't know why anyone expected something revolutionary on the dash. It's a touchscreen you access whilst driving so it needs to be clean and simple.
3) I still contend, along with [@]Gatorguy[/@], that any exclusivity will be short-lived and that VW Group will have iOS and the others will Android access.
4) No Rolls Royce? There goes my next car purchase¡
No, because iOS isn't designed to work that way.
If Apple makes devices for proctologists will that be called AssPlay?
Oh, gee... Thanks for that last comment. I just spit my breakfast all over from laughing.
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Good day to announce this, right after the Samsung awards last night.
I started to watch the awards last night. Ellen was pretty funny....but then the commercials started and I switched it off. Not so much because of Samsung, just the overall banality of the commercials.
No. The "bigger antennas" are the wrong wavelength. With antennas, bigger is not better. The antenna length has to be matched to the frequency band of the signals you are trying to transmit or receive on.
Size matters! (But bigger is not necessarily better!)
I think the antenna issue is even deeper than that. If I recall correctly, the FCC approved design of the phone system includes the size of the antenna. That is, the power output of the transmitter and the size of the antenna are considered together in approving the design for production and use. Further, I believe FCC regulations prohibit adding after market antennas.
Good for Apple! Looks good...Now all we need is tesla to give up on Android.
I know Maps had problems but I do like saying the address to Siri and it just opens and starts. It had a few miss-steps for me early on, but none lately.
I had the Tom Tom App for the iPhone way back in the day and I thought it was brilliant. But I had to type in the street number, then type in the street name. It was not easy to do in the car.
This will certainly influence my next car purchase. It will be a hybrid, probably a Prius or a Hybrid Highlander. Would love to get an all electric but the ranges are limiting. Telsa can go 300 miles but it's a $100,000. There's an electric motorcycle, I'm considering called the Zero, $13,000 and a non-hybrid three wheeler for $6,800 that gets 84 mpg (hwy).
Best.
Yes. Very frustrating to see Audi/VW/Porsche go with an inferior solution.
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I really recommend it! It was riveting.
Best regards.
Yes. Very frustrating to see Audi/VW/Porsche go with an inferior solution.
Agreed, and hasn't BMW decided to do their own thing, two. No Z4 for me!
It seems to be. Will this lead to TV Play? FitPlay? MedPlay?
On my last car purchase they tried to up sell me on a BOSE sound system. I actually laughed. BOSE....all the highs and all the lows. Nothing in the middle.
The key driving forces:
1, Universal systems. Consumers want to move their devices from vehicle to vehicle, especially in multi-car families and with rentals.
2. Commonality. The device must deliver the user interface, not the auto infotainment system. Users don't want to be coping with displays and control protocols that change from vehicle to vehicle. It's an unsafe distraction while driving.
3. Connectivity. With a physical connection, there's easy portability. Go from one car to another, drop the phone into a cradle and everything else is automatic. Never a need to waste time with Bluetooth pairing, especially when driving a new vehicle such as a rental. Two riders with different devices and different contact lists or iTunes content - undock one phone and drop in the other - simple.
4. Safety. Keep it simple - keep it verbal - avoid buttons and touchscreens that take eyes off the road. Apple understands the device user interface better than any carmaker. They should have the lead in development. Regardless of all these great new capabilities, we can never forget the overriding priority - reaching the end of our journey as safe as when we started.
2) I don't know why anyone expected something revolutionary on the dash. It's a touchscreen you access whilst driving so it needs to be clean and simple.
3) I still contend, along with [@]Gatorguy[/@], that any exclusivity will be short-lived and that VW Group will have iOS and the others will Android access.
4) No Rolls Royce? There goes my next car purchase¡
No, because iOS isn't designed to work that way.
If Apple makes devices for proctologists will that be called AssPlay?
Maybe when you buy the car you will be asked, iOS or Android? ... then the dealership they set the default for the buyer. If so, them judging by the socioeconomic distribution we see now with the two OSs, the Android users will probably find this link useful: http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2013/02/06/cheapest-cars/
Good. It’s a car. That’s not what it’s supposed to look like. You’re supposed to be driving, not excited by your dashboard.
The background is black because anything else would be too much ambient/peripheral light for nighttime driving and would lower your outward visibility.
The UI is simple and clean with as much contrast as possible because Apple knows you’re going to be an idiot and touch the screen WHILE you’re driving, so they want you to be able to find what you’re doing as QUICKLY as possible before getting back to the only job you really have here.
YAY. Keep on keeping on.
I’ll add that maybe that internal stereo space could be used as a compartment into which an iDevice could be safely stored. Simple little door or something.
Damn, same here
My reply to you Saturday where I guessed this was what was coming seems to have been 100% on the money! > Administers self congratulatory slap on back :smokey:
I'd say you have Man and Woman labels reversed!
Unless the labels indicate which one is the man and women, which typically means the knobs are manipulated by the opposite sex. In that case it would be correct.
ah, this reopens the classic "open vs. closed" topic.
car makers now have to choose whether their built-in Nav/Entertainment systems will work fully with any brand ecosystem - Apple, Google, and others like MS - or are optimized for just one of them or some other proprietary service of that car maker.
(i'm not talking about simple bluetooth calling, i'm mean systems that run apps etc.)
Ford just announced it will switch from its own system - provided by MS and buggy - to a QNX core system. now it announces that will work with iOS CarPlay. i expect it will also work with whatever Google comes up with. so Ford would be taking an "open" approach. too bad for MS.
and any maker that supports iOS poorly puts itself at a strong disadvantage in the US market at least. we'll see how that plays out. they want to charge a lot extra for these Nav systems, and Droids don't like to pay.
You realize this is a CAR interface? You aren't supposed to be dazzled by the interface while driving. It is supposed to be simple as possible.
Oh, gee... Thanks for that last comment. I just spit my breakfast all over from laughing.