Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly. That's it. It was enough for me even NOT to consider installing that shit on my Mac.
There is no even one reason to move from ML. There is no any new really usable features in comparison with Mountain Lion. I never risk everything just for curiosity.
1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.
2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.
3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.
1) Which moderator do you refer? I see none in this thread.
2) What evidence do you have to support your claim that most people uninstalled Mavericks, especially in light of this article stating that it's outpacing ML?
3) The Mail Gmail IMAP issue was a major issue that persisted far too long but I thought 10.9.2 resolved that for nearly everyone that didn't use one of the workarounds… but how would they know if most uninstalled Mavericks?
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches.
Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) Which moderator do you refer? I see none in this thread.
I have a lasting effect, it seems. It would probably be easier to fix things than to try to correct everyone who’s wrong.
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.
You have a very good memory for someone's past posts, whose name you can't seem to recall.
You have a very good memory for someone's past posts, whose name you can't seem to recall.
He does have a pretty good memory; when did I ever say iBooks didn’t work? Not saying I didn’t, just that I don’t remember ever saying it or there being a situation in which it could have been said. Again, par for the course for me, but it doesn’t seem like something that would have happened.
Oh, I maintain that iBooks lacks metadata editing, which is completely inexcusable, but certainly not “did not work”. I love iBooks as an application.
Upgrading iOS doesn't cost anything while upgrading the Mac OS can cost between $500-$2500 as you have to pay to replace non compatible software and hardware. When you pay over $500 for a productivity app you want to maximize it's useful life so you don't upgrade with every OS iteration.
I still need to get around to installing Mavericks on one Mac Mini and my MBP. I'm using it on my iMac and second Mini and I haven't had any issues with it.
I'm gonna keep upgrading as long as my computers are eligible for the upgrades!
Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.
Well, basically full ACK. However, I suppose for many non-techie Users they just see "My gmail doesn't work on my Mac" and they don't really care it is because of a non standard implementation of IMAP. They care about the end result and that "it just works".
OT: I am wondering if the high level of things that "just work" made me more sensitive things when they don't. Like recently, when iCloud keychain synched my Exchange email account just fine - except for one machine. Account was there, but I kept receiving wrong password message. After trying different routes with no avail, I finally manually added the account. In the end, no big deal, but I'm already so used to tech taking care of things that when suddenly it doesn't work, it really strikes out.
Apple could pay me for using their glitchy rubbish called 'mavericks'. I am absolutely sure I'll wait for the next OS X version. My MacBook Pro still runs ML.
I have similar feelings. In particular, dealbreakers for me are missing local sync in iTunes and worse multi-monitor support. The rest of the problems are irritations of various degrees. However, I'm even more dissatisfied with their MBP hardware line. I'm a developer and currently I have an upgradable, last of the line, 15" hi-res (non-retina) matte-display MBP. There's no way I'm going to get a new MBP as long as these features are not available, and the thought of having my MBP lost or broken scares me. With those features missing in the current line, I simply can not justify the price to myself.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.
2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.
3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.
Just read what real 'mavericks' "happy" users experience after "upgrading" from normally working OS X. Most of them regret it bitterly. That's it. It was enough for me even NOT to consider installing that shit on my Mac.
There is no even one reason to move from ML. There is no any new really usable features in comparison with Mountain Lion. I never risk everything just for curiosity.
Yeah, you're saying a sack of shit. You're not wanted here; go away.
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches. Most uninstalled the free Mavericks OS and went back to ML. Even the moderator complained that iBooks did not work, but now he claims Mavericks is perfect. He might want to look up the word hypocrite.
Upgrading iOS doesn't cost anything while upgrading the Mac OS can cost between $500-$2500 as you have to pay to replace non compatible software and hardware. When you pay over $500 for a productivity app you want to maximize it's useful life so you don't upgrade with every OS iteration.
The 10.9.2 update fixed some of these problems, although some users still complain about QuickLook running slowly.
Most major problems with Mavericks seem to steam from out-dated third party programs users had installed on Mountain Lion. A lot users have found EtreCheck a great help in resolving these problems.
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1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.
2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.
3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.
1) Which moderator do you refer? I see none in this thread.
2) What evidence do you have to support your claim that most people uninstalled Mavericks, especially in light of this article stating that it's outpacing ML?
3) The Mail Gmail IMAP issue was a major issue that persisted far too long but I thought 10.9.2 resolved that for nearly everyone that didn't use one of the workarounds… but how would they know if most uninstalled Mavericks?
Suddenly the moderator forgets that Mail in Mavericks is still a fucked up mess after three patches.
Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.
I have a lasting effect, it seems. It would probably be easier to fix things than to try to correct everyone who’s wrong.
Glitches!
What glitches?
I'm not gonna argue
What glitches???
Find out for yourself
So FUD.
You have a very good memory for someone's past posts, whose name you can't seem to recall.
He does have a pretty good memory; when did I ever say iBooks didn’t work? Not saying I didn’t, just that I don’t remember ever saying it or there being a situation in which it could have been said. Again, par for the course for me, but it doesn’t seem like something that would have happened.
Oh, I maintain that iBooks lacks metadata editing, which is completely inexcusable, but certainly not “did not work”. I love iBooks as an application.
I still need to get around to installing Mavericks on one Mac Mini and my MBP. I'm using it on my iMac and second Mini and I haven't had any issues with it.
I'm gonna keep upgrading as long as my computers are eligible for the upgrades!
Mail works perfectly fine. Because using a hacked together, nonstandard version of IMAP deserves compatibility issues. Screw Google. Apple has no obligation to “fix” anything.
Well, basically full ACK. However, I suppose for many non-techie Users they just see "My gmail doesn't work on my Mac" and they don't really care it is because of a non standard implementation of IMAP. They care about the end result and that "it just works".
OT: I am wondering if the high level of things that "just work" made me more sensitive things when they don't. Like recently, when iCloud keychain synched my Exchange email account just fine - except for one machine. Account was there, but I kept receiving wrong password message. After trying different routes with no avail, I finally manually added the account. In the end, no big deal, but I'm already so used to tech taking care of things that when suddenly it doesn't work, it really strikes out.
Apple could pay me for using their glitchy rubbish called 'mavericks'. I am absolutely sure I'll wait for the next OS X version. My MacBook Pro still runs ML.
I have similar feelings. In particular, dealbreakers for me are missing local sync in iTunes and worse multi-monitor support. The rest of the problems are irritations of various degrees. However, I'm even more dissatisfied with their MBP hardware line. I'm a developer and currently I have an upgradable, last of the line, 15" hi-res (non-retina) matte-display MBP. There's no way I'm going to get a new MBP as long as these features are not available, and the thought of having my MBP lost or broken scares me. With those features missing in the current line, I simply can not justify the price to myself.
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1) I have no idea what you're saying since is users are "happy" with Mavericks it shouldn't be a turn off to you.
2) Most online reviews by users seem to be overwhelmingly negative, especially when it comes to big corporations. I neither make nor read reviews on MAS.
3) You're heard plenty of positive comments about Mavericks and I've assumed you've read about the plethora of features but if those don't interest you that's perfectly fine, but I don't see why you're here seemingly spreading FUD.
Here are some concrete examples.
Yeah, you're saying a sack of shit. You're not wanted here; go away.
Mail is fine. Gmail is as fucked up as your post.
Your cave is getting cold.
You notice how those posts never come with examples that can be verified.
Here are some concrete examples.
The 10.9.2 update fixed some of these problems, although some users still complain about QuickLook running slowly.
Most major problems with Mavericks seem to steam from out-dated third party programs users had installed on Mountain Lion. A lot users have found EtreCheck a great help in resolving these problems.