Troll. Apple has the highest retention and satisfaction rate. Bing it.
So anyone that disagrees with your is a troll? Do you even know what the word "troll" actually means?
What is your contention? That Apple actually has superior maps product? Or that others have better search engine than Google? Or perhaps that Apple users are too stupid to notice any difference?
I happen to use Apple products and also happen to care about all those things.
Had an email address with them since 1994 but I can't even use it now to send mail since the last "security overhaul". My address book has been hacked many times but that had nothing to do with passwords (it was a general breach) and that's better than the bloody thing being unusable.
-- Tech Support: Sorry that password has expired- you must register a new one. Me: Did someone discover that password and hack my computer? Tech Support: No, but your password has expired- you must get a new one. Me: Why then do I need a new one as that one seems to be working pretty good? Tech Support: Well, you must get a new one as they automatically expire every 30 days. Me: Can I use the old one and just re-register it? Tech Support: No, you must get a new one. Me: I don't want a new one as that is one more thing for me to remember. Tech Support: Sorry, you must get a new one. Me: OK, roses Tech Support: Sorry you must use more letters. Me: OK, pretty roses Tech Support: No good, you must use at least one numerical character. Me: OK, 1 pretty rose Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use blank spaces. Me: OK, 1prettyrose Tech Support: Sorry, you must use additional characters. Me: OK, 1fuckingprettyrose Tech Support: Sorry, you must use at least one capital letter. Me: OK, 1FUCKINGprettyrose Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use more than one capital letter in a row. Me: OK, 1Fuckingprettyrose Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use that password as you must use additional letters. Me: OK, 1FUCKINGprettyroseshovedupyourassifyoudon'tgivemeaccessrightfuckingnow Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use that password as it is already being used
What if Apple were to remove the ability to change the default search engine in iOS? They already don't allow the user to change default apps. Could they conceivably extend this policy to the search engine to prop up Yahoo?
Why not? You can't change the search engine for Siri.
It was a smart move hiring an ex-Google person as CEO. The most important thing for Yahoo at this point in history is not to be intimidated by Google, and an ex-Googler probably wouldn't be.
This is so tyoical of people. If you want Yahoo to be your default then change the setting. Can we do anything for ourselves, or do we just want the government or some corporation to look out for our interests.
Maybe the reality distortion field operates a lot on many here but, no, Yahoo and Bing search are still terrible compared to Google search.
I recently tried to look for a specific website with vague terms on the three search engines. Didn't find it on Yahoo, was on second page on Bing and was the second result on Google.
What if Apple were to remove the ability to change the default search engine in iOS? They already don't allow the user to change default apps. Could they conceivably extend this policy to the search engine to prop up Yahoo?
Nope. Google will then "donate" to the DOJ and then suddenly the DOJ will investigate.
So anyone that disagrees with your is a troll? Do you even know what the word "troll" actually means?
What is your contention? That Apple actually has superior maps product? Or that others have better search engine than Google? Or perhaps that Apple users are too stupid to notice any difference?
I happen to use Apple products and also happen to care about all those things.
"If Safari becomes less useful as well, it's going to be third thing (maps, Siri, Safari) in iOS being second rate because Apple is having pointless feud with Google, and more reasons for users to switch away from what they already think is overpriced fashion toy."
This quote sums it up. It's contrary to the evidence. Siri is very useful. Safari as well w or w/o Google as default. Same with Maps.
Which is great, if you want to find what the weather is.
Providing weather forecasts and relevant search results are a completely different ball game, and I've always found Google's search results to be much better than Yahoo's.
Not to mention, I went to the Yahoo homepage and the first thing I saw? A huge full-screen flash ad. At least Google's ads are unobtrusive.
Funny I kinda dismissed yahoo and have been using google as the default for years... I just tried out yahoo for the heck of it (because of this article) and I actually think the results (especially for image search) are more useful than those given by google. I just changed my defaults
I'd love to be able to use DuckDuck Go, but it's way too limited in how results can be presented. Main thing is not being able to determine a simple time frame is a dealkiller. Just sorting by date isn't enough.
At least I've never been able to figure out how to make it as useful as I want it, and if after going around all the options three times I can't find how that's enough to make me think it's not for me.
This is 100% positively without any doubt in anyone's mind...completely false. No one would have a frigging clue, except the 2% of users that might actually READ an article that says it switch to Yahoo.
It never ceases to amaze me how people who post on an Apple website think the majority of users think or act the way they do.
People sure figured out pretty fast how to download Google maps when all the bad press started. We are not talking about some hard to find hidden setting buried deep in the bowels of the GUI so don't exaggerate. I just counted, 3 easy taps. Settings>Safari>search. Normally people would never have a reason to ever go there but that is because Google is now the default. If the default is switched to Bing or Yahoo that would make huge news so there would likely even be TV stories about that change which would include instructions on changing it back. It amazes me that you think iPhone users are incapable of making 3 taps to switch back to Google which is a hell of a lot easier than setting up TouchID or even iCloud for that matter. No doubt some would not mind or care but those people likely never use search often. Funny how you think everyone besides you and a few enlightened AI readers are the only ones capable of changing a freaking setting. Aren't you the one guilty of assuming quite a lot about other iPhone users since you seem to be suggesting 98% of them are complete morons?
No one has yet to explain the rationale for Apple to switch to a 3rd rate search option that doesn't even have their own algorithms for search. yahoo is simply a middleman for Bing so why wouldn't they simply go with Bing directly if they wanted to switch. I really do not get the anti-Google hate. Google is not the Hatfields and Apple is not the McCoys. Google and Apple actually have a pretty good and mutually beneficial search relationship. If they switch there better be a compelling reason because search is working pretty well at the moment. Do you honestly think Microsoft are any less of a threat or competitor to Apple than Google?
Of course she does. And Apple would like to stop giving Google money.
They'd also like to stop giving Samsung money.
Apple does both of those things anyway, because buying goods and services from rivals is in the best long-term interest of their customers, when it means delivering the best results to Apple's customers.
If Apple starts consistently putting business rivalry ahead of customer experience, that will be a VERY bad sign. They do it occasionally now - some of Siri's limitations are caused by its use of Bing for default web search (sorry folks - Google's search is still the best).
We hadn’t updated our logo in 18 years. Our brand, as represented by the logo, has been valued at as much as ~$10 billion dollars. So, while it was time for a change, it’s not something we could do lightly.
On a personal level, I love brands, logos, color, design, and, most of all, Adobe Illustrator. I think it’s one of the most incredible software packages ever made. I’m not a pro, but I know enough to be dangerous
Had an email address with them since 1994 but I can't even use it now to send mail since the last "security overhaul". My address book has been hacked many times but that had nothing to do with passwords (it was a general breach) and that's better than the bloody thing being unusable.
--
Tech Support: Sorry that password has expired- you must register a new one.
Me: Did someone discover that password and hack my computer?
Tech Support: No, but your password has expired- you must get a new one.
Me: Why then do I need a new one as that one seems to be working pretty good?
Tech Support: Well, you must get a new one as they automatically expire every 30 days.
Me: Can I use the old one and just re-register it?
Tech Support: No, you must get a new one.
Me: I don't want a new one as that is one more thing for me to remember.
Tech Support: Sorry, you must get a new one.
Me: OK, roses
Tech Support: Sorry you must use more letters.
Me: OK, pretty roses
Tech Support: No good, you must use at least one numerical character.
Me: OK, 1 pretty rose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use blank spaces.
Me: OK, 1prettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you must use additional characters.
Me: OK, 1fuckingprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you must use at least one capital letter.
Me: OK, 1FUCKINGprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use more than one capital letter in a row.
Me: OK, 1Fuckingprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use that password as you must use additional letters.
I made the move on all Apple devices some time ago. Would be a great move and one Apple should embrace. Why? No competitive overlap between the two companies. No brainer..
At least with Yahoo you get tech support. I've never been able to reach Google's tech support. Do they have any?
You never watched "The Internship"? http://www.google.com/contact/
...or if you need hlp with GMail for instance:
Tech Support - Call (US Toll Free) 1-800-875-1709.
email: www.techsupport247.us
or general tech help
Call USA 1-800-915-3608.
email: techhelpcenter.us/google
People sure figured out pretty fast how to download Google maps when all the bad press started. We are not talking about some hard to find hidden setting buried deep in the bowels of the GUI so don't exaggerate. I just counted, 3 easy taps. Settings>Safari>search. Normally people would never have a reason to ever go there but that is because Google is now the default. If the default is switched to Bing or Yahoo that would make huge news so there would likely even be TV stories about that change which would include instructions on changing it back. It amazes me that you think iPhone users are incapable of making 3 taps to switch back to Google which is a hell of a lot easier than setting up TouchID or even iCloud for that matter. No doubt some would not mind or care but those people likely never use search often. Funny how you think everyone besides you and a few enlightened AI readers are the only ones capable of changing a freaking setting. Aren't you the one guilty of assuming quite a lot about other iPhone users since you seem to be suggesting 98% of them are complete morons?
No one has yet to explain the rationale for Apple to switch to a 3rd rate search option that doesn't even have their own algorithms for search. yahoo is simply a middleman for Bing so why wouldn't they simply go with Bing directly if they wanted to switch. I really do not get the anti-Google hate. Google is not the Hatfields and Apple is not the McCoys. Google and Apple actually have a pretty good and mutually beneficial search relationship. If they switch there better be a compelling reason because search is working pretty well at the moment. Do you honestly think Microsoft are any less of a threat or competitor to Apple than Google?
I don't think anyone said the avg Joe can't do it. It's that they don't care to change it.
You bring up Maps, what's the usage of Apple Maps compare to Google maps on iOS? I have both.
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You're right and wrong. Bing is default for Siri; Google for Safari.
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Troll. Apple has the highest retention and satisfaction rate. Bing it.
So anyone that disagrees with your is a troll? Do you even know what the word "troll" actually means?
What is your contention? That Apple actually has superior maps product? Or that others have better search engine than Google? Or perhaps that Apple users are too stupid to notice any difference?
I happen to use Apple products and also happen to care about all those things.
I love weather. I love weather apps. And Yahoo's is very pretty. But they're all inaccurate a lot of the time.
Why not? You can't change the search engine for Siri.
It was a smart move hiring an ex-Google person as CEO. The most important thing for Yahoo at this point in history is not to be intimidated by Google, and an ex-Googler probably wouldn't be.
Did you search for Google.com?
Nope. Google will then "donate" to the DOJ and then suddenly the DOJ will investigate.
"If Safari becomes less useful as well, it's going to be third thing (maps, Siri, Safari) in iOS being second rate because Apple is having pointless feud with Google, and more reasons for users to switch away from what they already think is overpriced fashion toy."
This quote sums it up. It's contrary to the evidence. Siri is very useful. Safari as well w or w/o Google as default. Same with Maps.
???
Yahoo has the best Weather App on iOS, by far.
Which is great, if you want to find what the weather is.
Providing weather forecasts and relevant search results are a completely different ball game, and I've always found Google's search results to be much better than Yahoo's.
Not to mention, I went to the Yahoo homepage and the first thing I saw? A huge full-screen flash ad. At least Google's ads are unobtrusive.
Funny I kinda dismissed yahoo and have been using google as the default for years... I just tried out yahoo for the heck of it (because of this article) and I actually think the results (especially for image search) are more useful than those given by google. I just changed my defaults
I'd do it. The less Google infests my iOS devices the better imo.
I switched to Bing and am happy. Same results as Google without benefiting the backstabbing Google.
DuckDuckGo is the way to go.
I'd love to be able to use DuckDuck Go, but it's way too limited in how results can be presented. Main thing is not being able to determine a simple time frame is a dealkiller. Just sorting by date isn't enough.
At least I've never been able to figure out how to make it as useful as I want it, and if after going around all the options three times I can't find how that's enough to make me think it's not for me.
This is 100% positively without any doubt in anyone's mind...completely false. No one would have a frigging clue, except the 2% of users that might actually READ an article that says it switch to Yahoo.
It never ceases to amaze me how people who post on an Apple website think the majority of users think or act the way they do.
People sure figured out pretty fast how to download Google maps when all the bad press started. We are not talking about some hard to find hidden setting buried deep in the bowels of the GUI so don't exaggerate. I just counted, 3 easy taps. Settings>Safari>search. Normally people would never have a reason to ever go there but that is because Google is now the default. If the default is switched to Bing or Yahoo that would make huge news so there would likely even be TV stories about that change which would include instructions on changing it back. It amazes me that you think iPhone users are incapable of making 3 taps to switch back to Google which is a hell of a lot easier than setting up TouchID or even iCloud for that matter. No doubt some would not mind or care but those people likely never use search often. Funny how you think everyone besides you and a few enlightened AI readers are the only ones capable of changing a freaking setting. Aren't you the one guilty of assuming quite a lot about other iPhone users since you seem to be suggesting 98% of them are complete morons?
No one has yet to explain the rationale for Apple to switch to a 3rd rate search option that doesn't even have their own algorithms for search. yahoo is simply a middleman for Bing so why wouldn't they simply go with Bing directly if they wanted to switch. I really do not get the anti-Google hate. Google is not the Hatfields and Apple is not the McCoys. Google and Apple actually have a pretty good and mutually beneficial search relationship. If they switch there better be a compelling reason because search is working pretty well at the moment. Do you honestly think Microsoft are any less of a threat or competitor to Apple than Google?
They'd also like to stop giving Samsung money.
Apple does both of those things anyway, because buying goods and services from rivals is in the best long-term interest of their customers, when it means delivering the best results to Apple's customers.
If Apple starts consistently putting business rivalry ahead of customer experience, that will be a VERY bad sign. They do it occasionally now - some of Siri's limitations are caused by its use of Bing for default web search (sorry folks - Google's search is still the best).
No, it was Marissa's doing. Says so on her blog. She's clueless about typography but insisted on doing it herself anyway.
She's sure easy on the optics but for what and the way she writes - and that hideous laugh - a bit of a nitwit.
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So, tonight we unveiled the new Yahoo logo, concluding our 30 days of change.
We hadn’t updated our logo in 18 years. Our brand, as represented by the logo, has been valued at as much as ~$10 billion dollars. So, while it was time for a change, it’s not something we could do lightly.
On a personal level, I love brands, logos, color, design, and, most of all, Adobe Illustrator. I think it’s one of the most incredible software packages ever made. I’m not a pro, but I know enough to be dangerous
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My principle memory of Geocities is that the sites were down most of the time.
I guess if Apple acquire them, Yahoo will be able to suckle on giant unicorn balls of fluff.
Yahoo7 gave it for free with your service. Don't know if was also served from Oz but I remember Geocities as very stable.
Yahoo mail is, basically, buggered!
Had an email address with them since 1994 but I can't even use it now to send mail since the last "security overhaul". My address book has been hacked many times but that had nothing to do with passwords (it was a general breach) and that's better than the bloody thing being unusable.
--
Tech Support: Sorry that password has expired- you must register a new one.
Me: Did someone discover that password and hack my computer?
Tech Support: No, but your password has expired- you must get a new one.
Me: Why then do I need a new one as that one seems to be working pretty good?
Tech Support: Well, you must get a new one as they automatically expire every 30 days.
Me: Can I use the old one and just re-register it?
Tech Support: No, you must get a new one.
Me: I don't want a new one as that is one more thing for me to remember.
Tech Support: Sorry, you must get a new one.
Me: OK, roses
Tech Support: Sorry you must use more letters.
Me: OK, pretty roses
Tech Support: No good, you must use at least one numerical character.
Me: OK, 1 pretty rose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use blank spaces.
Me: OK, 1prettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you must use additional characters.
Me: OK, 1fuckingprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you must use at least one capital letter.
Me: OK, 1FUCKINGprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use more than one capital letter in a row.
Me: OK, 1Fuckingprettyrose
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use that password as you must use additional letters.
Me: OK, 1FUCKINGprettyroseshovedupyourassifyoudon'tgivemeaccessrightfuckingnow
Tech Support: Sorry, you cannot use that password as it is already being used
At least with Yahoo you get tech support. I've never been able to reach Google's tech support. Do they have any?
You never watched "The Internship"?
http://www.google.com/contact/
...or if you need hlp with GMail for instance:
Tech Support - Call (US Toll Free) 1-800-875-1709.
email: www.techsupport247.us
or general tech help
Call USA 1-800-915-3608.
email: techhelpcenter.us/google
or AdWords:
http://searchengineland.com/google-customer-support-suprise-1000-reps-handling-10000-calls-a-week-from-60-countries-91616
I don't think anyone said the avg Joe can't do it. It's that they don't care to change it.
You bring up Maps, what's the usage of Apple Maps compare to Google maps on iOS? I have both.