Apple opens up Touch ID to third-party app developers with iOS 8

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  • Reply 21 of 35
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Wovel View Post

    He didn't show an example, but I think his moving diagram was two third party apps sharing information. (I need to watch again to be sure).

     

    I thought about that, too, but there was no direct reference to that being so.

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  • Reply 22 of 35
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    I think it's going to be very difficult for any other company to match what Apple is offering in terms of integration across platforms.  Only Apple does the hardware and software and is able to keep fragmentation out of the equation except for older devices.

    Don't you mean across devices? Before Apple, both Palm and BB did hardware and software. It's not the magical equation it's been made out to be.
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  • Reply 23 of 35
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    I hope the new Macs will have Touch ID too.

    Oh, wait a minute. Touch ID currently resides in the A7 processor, could this be another piece of the puzzle that new MacBooks will rock an A8?


    I'm guessing that if not already, in a very short time that will not be required. There was a lot of time spent discussing "continuity".  If your going to login to your bank account on your mac, and your phone is sitting right next to you on your desk, you authenticate with TouchID on your phone and it passes through to your mac.

     

    I haven't read the Continuity spec, but it doesn't sound too far off.

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  • Reply 24 of 35
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Touch ID to open my front door? Yes please.
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  • Reply 25 of 35
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member

    I'm really excited about the huge potential with all the new features announced. One thing I would love to see is the ability to use Touch ID to secure notes on the native note app. I know this probably isn't the best idea, but I have so many passwords for things its hard to remember them all. I have a note with all my passwords listed. It would be nice to require Touch ID to open that specific note. I know there are password apps out there I can secure notes with passwords, but I would rather use a combo of Touch ID and passcode. 

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  • Reply 26 of 35
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
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    Originally Posted by Boltsfan17 View Post

     

    I'm really excited about the huge potential with all the new features announced. One thing I would love to see is the ability to use Touch ID to secure notes on the native note app. I know this probably isn't the best idea, but I have so many passwords for things its hard to remember them all. I have a note with all my passwords listed. It would be nice to require Touch ID to open that specific note. I know there are password apps out there I can secure notes with passwords, but I would rather use a combo of Touch ID and passcode. 


     

    Safari is all you need! No third-party app required. It will save all your passwords securely (even credit cards) so you don't need to memorise them. It will even provide very complex ones to keep them extra secure. And even if it doesn't autofill for some reason, you can see the password in settings and copy it if necessary. I've never needed to, though. But if you mean non-Safari, fair enough, though if you've got Touch ID anyway that's quite a barrier.

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  • Reply 27 of 35
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    ralphmouth wrote: »
    Would it be possible for hackers to create a malicious application that spoofs TouchID and causes 1Password (or other managers) to reveal your user name and password to them?

    Not really.

    What would likely happen is that when you set it up 1P to work with ToughID, it gives iOS an encryption key that will be stored in the keychain. The keychain itself is encrypted and requires TouchID or your device password to decrypt. After that, from 1P's point of view, when you launch the app it launches TouchID then sits there and waits for the key. If it doesn't get the key, it can't open.

    There is no way for a malicious application to spoof TouchID without knowing the encryption key, and if you already know the key, there would be no need to fake TouchID because you could simply decrypt 1P without any further bother using the key.

    On top of all this, all apps need to go through the App Store approval process. Also, at the end of the day the applications are still sandboxed. When apps interact through plugins, the information is filtered through iOS; there is still no way for one app to place itself between another app and iOS.
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  • Reply 28 of 35
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

     

    Safari is all you need! No third-party app required. It will save all your passwords securely (even credit cards) so you don't need to memorise them. It will even provide very complex ones to keep them extra secure. And even if it doesn't autofill for some reason, you can see the password in settings and copy it if necessary. I've never needed to, though. But if you mean non-Safari, fair enough, though if you've got Touch ID anyway that's quite a barrier.


    I do use that Safari feature at home, but I do need a master list with all my passwords. I have around 6 at work that change every month. A Touch ID feature would be cool, but I still feel pretty comfortable with Touch ID, passcode, and Find iPhone app protecting my phone just in case it was lost or stolen. 

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  • Reply 29 of 35
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Boltsfan17 View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

     

     

    Safari is all you need! No third-party app required. It will save all your passwords securely (even credit cards) so you don't need to memorise them. It will even provide very complex ones to keep them extra secure. And even if it doesn't autofill for some reason, you can see the password in settings and copy it if necessary. I've never needed to, though. But if you mean non-Safari, fair enough, though if you've got Touch ID anyway that's quite a barrier.


    I do use that Safari feature at home, but I do need a master list with all my passwords. I have around 6 at work that change every month. A Touch ID feature would be cool, but I still feel pretty comfortable with Touch ID, passcode, and Find iPhone app protecting my phone just in case it was lost or stolen. 


     

    In the Preferences for Safari on the Mac and Settings on iOS, there is a list of all the passwords saved in Safari. If you regularly change some, Safari will automatically ask whether you want to replace them and will then save the new ones accordingly.

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  • Reply 30 of 35
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    boltsfan17 wrote: »
    I'm really excited about the huge potential with all the new features announced. One thing I would love to see is the ability to use Touch ID to secure notes on the native note app. I know this probably isn't the best idea, but I have so many passwords for things its hard to remember them all. I have a note with all my passwords listed. It would be nice to require Touch ID to open that specific note. I know there are password apps out there I can secure notes with passwords, but I would rather use a combo of Touch ID and passcode. 

    Yikes! That is a security nightmare.

    I have been using 1Password for a while now, and while it isn't the most convenient thing, it is definitely better than storing your passwords unencrypted for anyone to see.

    I'm hoping that with iOS 8 1P will be updated to use TouchID and it will hopefully get a safari plugin in iOS. If that's the case, that would be an even more convenient solution than secure notes.
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  • Reply 31 of 35
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Don't you mean across devices? Before Apple, both Palm and BB did hardware and software. It's not the magical equation it's been made out to be.

    I think he meant across platforms like iOS and MacOS X.  Palm and Blackberry didn't have a computer platform.

     

    Thompson

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  • Reply 32 of 35
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by Secular Investor View Post

     

     

    Well I bought some more Apple in the dip. I was very very impressed by the number of innovative things with which Apple is building a wider and deeper moat between themselves and the compeition - they have been left floundering, falling even further behind Apple


     

    Once the more thickheaded Wall Street analysts realize what this means on a forward looking basis (their excuse for everything), there will be no stopping AAPL from rocketing past $100 post-split.

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  • Reply 33 of 35
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,358member
    This is the sleeper announcement of the WWDC...this is huge...especially with all the recent issues of credit card security....

    This is what the market should respond to..
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  • Reply 34 of 35
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
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    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post

     

    I hope the new Macs will have Touch ID too.

    Oh, wait a minute. Touch ID currently resides in the A7 processor, could this be another piece of the puzzle that new MacBooks will rock an A8?


     

    No. It could mean Apple's new motherboards have an M7 DSP co-processor successor M8 or something similar that the Touch ID encryption can be stored.

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  • Reply 35 of 35
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
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    Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post

     

    This topic (touchID kit) is exactly what they should have done.


     

    they shouldn't have done it until they were ready to do it.

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