My whole point was Apple will gain a ton of new customers with a larger screen iPhone. All I did was give an example of the people I know who will be switching to Apple when the iPhone 6 is released. I'm obviously not talking about everyone. Based on polls I've seen at various tech sites, a larger screen iPhone is going to be extremely popular.
So why didn't the very same thing help HTC? The HTC One (M8) was immediately put on a BOGO sale and their sales are down.
How many $M did HTC spend and continue to spend on print, TV and radio marketing blitz's? How many $M did HTC give to the providers to promote their phone above all other phones? Not much I am thinking.
I see where you got that from the first table in the story, but did you notice that Nokia/MS and BlackBerry didn't even make the table... that makes them the Zombie brands!
That might be true but they would also lose a bunch of users too. I for one like the current size screen. Being able to hold and use the phone with one hand is very important to me. If the only iPhones available with smaller screens are last years models then I won’t be buying any iPhone. My wife and I have held off moving to smartphones. This is supposed to be the year we make the jump. Maybe not. I don’t want to be holding some big brick to my ear.
Fear not, Apple will still be selling a 4" iPhone. It will be an iPhone 5s for sure and very likely one of the iPhone 6 choices. The vast market of smart phone buyers love the 4" size as shown by Apple's sales. The large screen smart phones may prove to be a short term demand created by Samsung's massive marketing. Apparently, the demand that Apple build such a device is not supported by Samsung's actual sales numbers (as discovered during the recent Apple/Samsung trial). When I want a nice-sized screen, I turn to my iPad, and when I want some serious real estate I have my 27" iMac...
Yeah, bullshit. They'll find something else to bitch about. Google will have something new by then and they'll use that as an excuse to stick with Android. They're both trolls, especially ihnatko.
Sometime in the next 12 months I expect a new malware exploit will burn through the bulk of the Android devices over night, emptying bank accounts and bricking phones like the black plague. In the aftermath I imagine these same MBMS* will blame the banking system rather then the phones.
I'm sure some people will complain if Apple makes only one iPhone model and it's bigger than the current one. The big question is whether they'll switch to a different platform if that happens. I think not because even the "mini" versions of Android phones are bigger than the current iPhone and they tend to be crippled from a specifications standpoint.
To be hobnst that works in both ways with both sides. We are at the point were no one switches unless given a good reason. Generally that's a feeling one of the companies burned you. Most switchers I know its because things like my battery died to fast, Apps crashed too fast, I can't customize it, the screen is to small/big. People no longer switch for features they switch after they have a problem. Its annoying to switch now. You have to Change what you are used to. Most of the new features are for new people not switchers. I have an android phone and in all honesty Google has to truely mess up for me to switch there is no compelling feature that will ever make me switch when I comfortable. Humans are programmed to settle. We don't leave our mates whenever we see a more attractive one we leave when something goes wrong. (Majority of humans)
Sometime in the next 12 months I expect a new malware exploit will burn through the bulk of the Android devices over night, emptying bank accounts and bricking phones like the black plague. In the aftermath I imagine these same MBMS* will blame the banking system rather then the phones.
*Male Bovine Manure Spreaders
Highly doubtful. While majority of mobile malware is on android majority of android phones do not have any malware.
It requires multiple steps to get a malware exploit onto your android phone. Its not as simple as just going to a bad website. Their is a process and warnings.
I seriously can't see Apple dropping the current 5s 4" size this round of updates. The ROI on the machines and processes to manufacturer it just adds to their profit margins at this point, which allows them to bring one or even 2 larger iPhones to market at a seriously competitive price. I also don't think it's below Apple to simply add some internal spec bumps to the 5s and call it a day on that size, while the larger sizes will surely need the A8 to push the added pixels up to Apple's and it's customer's preferred speeds and fluidity.
The iPhone and iPads are the new MacBooks and iMacs of this era of computing, so it stands to reason that we fans will be able to enjoy a choice in size, power and price point.
How many $M did HTC spend and continue to spend on print, TV and radio marketing blitz's? How many $M did HTC give to the providers to promote their phone above all other phones? Not much I am thinking.
How much did Apple spend? They're number 1, so who do you mimic the first place or second place company?
Not bad, considering these three months included the release of Samsung's and HTC's flagship smartphones...
Both companies plan to releade upscale version of their current flagship to compete with LG new G3 new Quad HD.
Samsung is called Galaxy F Prime.
HTC is called HTC ONE M8 PRIME.
Both will have 2X HD and metal back cases along with more powerful SoC.
Sometime in the next 12 months I expect a new malware exploit will burn through the bulk of the Android devices over night, emptying bank accounts and bricking phones like the black plague. In the aftermath I imagine these same MBMS* will blame the banking system rather then the phones.
“My phone’s OS was hacked. This is just proof that capitalism doesn’t work!” " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Seeing how everyone else went down a 1% increase is plenty good.
This is pretty pathetic given that Samsung launched their new flagship phone, Galaxy S5, more recently than Apple introduced their last update. Samsung should have made up more ground during this period.
"comScore found 167.9 people owned a smartphone in the U.S. over the three-month period, equating to a 69.6 percent mobile market penetration. The number is up 5 percent compared to the January quarter. "
Funny, I thought more than 167.9 people in America owned a smartphone. Are you the 0.9 TS??
Would be nice if you authors on AI could make a small effort to proof read the junk you write .. I know it's a lot to ask of you.
This is pretty pathetic given that Samsung launched their new flagship phone, Galaxy S5, more recently than Apple introduced their last update. Samsung should have made up more ground during this period.
The SGS 3 was released 2 yrs ago. Anyone that was as many claim here "suckered and conned" into buying one would have switched to the iPhone immediately at the expiration of their contract. I was expecting a big drop by Samsung but instead they grew. So that tells me that most of those 'suckers' bought another SGS as did some iPhone owners.
The SGS 3 was released 2 yrs ago. Anyone that was as many claim here "suckered and conned" into buying one would have switched to the iPhone immediately at the expiration of their contract. I was expecting a big drop by Samsung but instead they grew. So that tells me that most of those 'suckers' bought another SGS as did some iPhone owners.
Or people migrated "up" from simpler phones and feature phones. Of which there is still a very large pool.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/180449/apples-iphone-retains-u-s-smartphone-marketshare-lead-as-samsung-gains-ground#post_2545326" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>dasanman69</strong> <a href="/t/180449/apples-iphone-retains-u-s-smartphone-marketshare-lead-as-samsung-gains-ground#post_2545326"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /><br /><br />Seeing how everyone else went down a 1% increase is plenty good.</div></div><p>This is pretty pathetic given that Samsung launched their new flagship phone, Galaxy S5, more recently than Apple introduced their last update. Samsung should have made up more ground during this period.</p>
That's up to April and S5 only been out maybe a week or so. That 1% gain by samsung is pretty impressive given that most of the period in question is the tail end before s5 was released. The 3 months from apr would see a much larger market share increase for Samsung.
And now let's look at worldwide figures. Apple now hovers at 15% global market share.
From BGR for Q1 2014:
Samsung leads the list, but found its market share dropped to 31.2% from 32.4% in Q1 2013.
Apple%u2019s global smartphone market share dropped to 15.3% from 17.5% in Q1 2013.
Huawei and Lenovo found themselves in the Nos. 3 and 4 spots on Strategy Analytics%u2019 list, with LG rounding out the top five.
Finally, as has been the case in the past several quarters, Samsung%u2019s smartphone shipments in the first quarter were greater than shipments from all of its top competitors combined.
And now let's look at worldwide figures. Apple now hovers at 15% global market share.
From BGR for Q1 2014:
Samsung leads the list, but found its market share dropped to 31.2% from 32.4% in Q1 2013.
Apple%u2019s global smartphone market share dropped to 15.3% from 17.5% in Q1 2013.
Huawei and Lenovo found themselves in the Nos. 3 and 4 spots on Strategy Analytics%u2019 list, with LG rounding out the top five.
Finally, as has been the case in the past several quarters, Samsung%u2019s smartphone shipments in the first quarter were greater than shipments from all of its top competitors combined.
Meaningless if a high percentage of those handsets are only used for rudimentary basics.
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All.
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Android.
Phones...
All of them?
All of them.
OK. I need no other proof. You win.
What did I win?
My whole point was Apple will gain a ton of new customers with a larger screen iPhone. All I did was give an example of the people I know who will be switching to Apple when the iPhone 6 is released. I'm obviously not talking about everyone. Based on polls I've seen at various tech sites, a larger screen iPhone is going to be extremely popular.
So why didn't the very same thing help HTC? The HTC One (M8) was immediately put on a BOGO sale and their sales are down.
How many $M did HTC spend and continue to spend on print, TV and radio marketing blitz's? How many $M did HTC give to the providers to promote their phone above all other phones? Not much I am thinking.
I see where you got that from the first table in the story, but did you notice that Nokia/MS and BlackBerry didn't even make the table... that makes them the Zombie brands!
Fear not, Apple will still be selling a 4" iPhone. It will be an iPhone 5s for sure and very likely one of the iPhone 6 choices. The vast market of smart phone buyers love the 4" size as shown by Apple's sales. The large screen smart phones may prove to be a short term demand created by Samsung's massive marketing. Apparently, the demand that Apple build such a device is not supported by Samsung's actual sales numbers (as discovered during the recent Apple/Samsung trial). When I want a nice-sized screen, I turn to my iPad, and when I want some serious real estate I have my 27" iMac...
Sometime in the next 12 months I expect a new malware exploit will burn through the bulk of the Android devices over night, emptying bank accounts and bricking phones like the black plague. In the aftermath I imagine these same MBMS* will blame the banking system rather then the phones.
*Male Bovine Manure Spreaders
To be hobnst that works in both ways with both sides. We are at the point were no one switches unless given a good reason. Generally that's a feeling one of the companies burned you. Most switchers I know its because things like my battery died to fast, Apps crashed too fast, I can't customize it, the screen is to small/big. People no longer switch for features they switch after they have a problem. Its annoying to switch now. You have to Change what you are used to. Most of the new features are for new people not switchers. I have an android phone and in all honesty Google has to truely mess up for me to switch there is no compelling feature that will ever make me switch when I comfortable. Humans are programmed to settle. We don't leave our mates whenever we see a more attractive one we leave when something goes wrong. (Majority of humans)
Highly doubtful. While majority of mobile malware is on android majority of android phones do not have any malware.
It requires multiple steps to get a malware exploit onto your android phone. Its not as simple as just going to a bad website. Their is a process and warnings.
The iPhone and iPads are the new MacBooks and iMacs of this era of computing, so it stands to reason that we fans will be able to enjoy a choice in size, power and price point.
How much did Apple spend? They're number 1, so who do you mimic the first place or second place company?
Both companies plan to releade upscale version of their current flagship to compete with LG new G3 new Quad HD.
Samsung is called Galaxy F Prime.
HTC is called HTC ONE M8 PRIME.
Both will have 2X HD and metal back cases along with more powerful SoC.
“My phone’s OS was hacked. This is just proof that capitalism doesn’t work!”
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Seeing how everyone else went down a 1% increase is plenty good.
This is pretty pathetic given that Samsung launched their new flagship phone, Galaxy S5, more recently than Apple introduced their last update. Samsung should have made up more ground during this period.
It will be interesting to see what happens. Will Apple still keep the 4s around or drop that and just keep the two new sized iPhones and the 5c?
Yes, given the report is iOS 8 will be supported on the 4s. So it will be a functional option any way.
And heck, I STILL look at that one (the 4s) and the best looking one...)
AI said
"comScore found 167.9 people owned a smartphone in the U.S. over the three-month period, equating to a 69.6 percent mobile market penetration. The number is up 5 percent compared to the January quarter. "
Funny, I thought more than 167.9 people in America owned a smartphone. Are you the 0.9 TS??
Would be nice if you authors on AI could make a small effort to proof read the junk you write .. I know it's a lot to ask of you.
The SGS 3 was released 2 yrs ago. Anyone that was as many claim here "suckered and conned" into buying one would have switched to the iPhone immediately at the expiration of their contract. I was expecting a big drop by Samsung but instead they grew. So that tells me that most of those 'suckers' bought another SGS as did some iPhone owners.
The SGS 3 was released 2 yrs ago. Anyone that was as many claim here "suckered and conned" into buying one would have switched to the iPhone immediately at the expiration of their contract. I was expecting a big drop by Samsung but instead they grew. So that tells me that most of those 'suckers' bought another SGS as did some iPhone owners.
Or people migrated "up" from simpler phones and feature phones. Of which there is still a very large pool.
That's up to April and S5 only been out maybe a week or so. That 1% gain by samsung is pretty impressive given that most of the period in question is the tail end before s5 was released. The 3 months from apr would see a much larger market share increase for Samsung.
True but those would account for 0.2 percentage points.
From BGR for Q1 2014:
Samsung leads the list, but found its market share dropped to 31.2% from 32.4% in Q1 2013.
Apple%u2019s global smartphone market share dropped to 15.3% from 17.5% in Q1 2013.
Huawei and Lenovo found themselves in the Nos. 3 and 4 spots on Strategy Analytics%u2019 list, with LG rounding out the top five.
Finally, as has been the case in the past several quarters, Samsung%u2019s smartphone shipments in the first quarter were greater than shipments from all of its top competitors combined.
And now let's look at worldwide figures. Apple now hovers at 15% global market share.
From BGR for Q1 2014:
Samsung leads the list, but found its market share dropped to 31.2% from 32.4% in Q1 2013.
Apple%u2019s global smartphone market share dropped to 15.3% from 17.5% in Q1 2013.
Huawei and Lenovo found themselves in the Nos. 3 and 4 spots on Strategy Analytics%u2019 list, with LG rounding out the top five.
Finally, as has been the case in the past several quarters, Samsung%u2019s smartphone shipments in the first quarter were greater than shipments from all of its top competitors combined.
Meaningless if a high percentage of those handsets are only used for rudimentary basics.