Google to launch Apple HealthKit competitor for Android at I/O conference - report

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  • Reply 21 of 93
    cpsro wrote: »
    512ke wrote: »
     
    Needs a better more accurate name.  Suggestions:
    Google Sucks

    Morlock?
  • Reply 22 of 93
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pmz View Post

     



    If it were just Ads for Jenny Craig, you'd be so lucky. Instead, your insurance rates/quotes will go through the roof as Google sells your personal health data.


    ^This.^

     

    No.

     

    Way.

     

    In.

     

    Hell.

  • Reply 23 of 93
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,480member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Such as. . .?



    Rhetorical
    The 22 million dollar fine (largest in is history) and the 17 million dollar settlement for hacking Safari to track users even when they select do not track. The reason Apple is moving away from Google is they don't trust them as a partner or with their customers data.

    Oh I missed the rhetorical part.
  • Reply 24 of 93
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    genovelle wrote: »
    The 22 million dollar fine (largest in is history) and the 17 million dollar settlement for hacking Safari to track users even when they select do not track. The reason Apple is moving away from Google is they don't trust them as a partner or with their customers data.

    Oh I missed the rhetorical part.

    FYI: The fine was not for "stealing" information from Safari users. Nor was it for (purposeful/accidental) bypassing of Do Not Track settings. Another FYI: There's no requirement for Do Not Track settings to be respected in any event. That's why it's commonly ignored.
    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/yahoo-is-the-latest-company-ignoring-web-users-requests-for-privacy/
  • Reply 25 of 93
    How about the Me2 ?
  • Reply 26 of 93
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,480member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    FYI: That's not what the fine was for.
    That's what I remember. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/19/google-pay-17-million-apple-tracking
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/aug/09/google-record-fine-ftc-safari

    On a side note. I found it comical that typing in Google fine brought up everything but Google fines until I put in the e. Then it was still toward the bottom. 400
  • Reply 27 of 93
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Geez ... can you imagine the possibility of your life being in the at the mercy of Google's programming? :\
  • Reply 28 of 93
    cfuglecfugle Posts: 34member
    Start your photocopiers because the trademark of 'xeroxing' cannot be used. When will we see some real competition for Apple in the guise of intelligent, needed, well thought products and services that are as easy to use as their own? the last time i tried to change a setting in Android, it took 15 minutes and then refused my attempt telling me to go to the app to make the change instead of the central settings area. The cheapie tablet was passed down to another chump who probably has done the same. Maybe if Google gets click throughs, we should get paid as well?
  • Reply 29 of 93
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    FYI: The fine was not for "stealing" information from Safari users. Nor was it for (purposeful/accidental) bypassing of Do Not Track settings. Another FYI: There's no requirement for Do Not Track settings to be respected in any event. That's why it's commonly ignored.

    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/yahoo-is-the-latest-company-ignoring-web-users-requests-for-privacy/

     

    Mmmmm.

     

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/f-t-c-fines-google-22-5-million-for-safari-privacy-violations/

     

    Quote:


    The Federal Trade Commission fined Google $22.5 million on Thursday to settle charges that it had bypassed privacy settings in Apple’s Safari browser to be able to track users of the browser and show them advertisements, and violated an earlier privacy settlement with the agency.

    The fine is the largest civil penalty ever levied by the commission, which has been cracking down on tech companies for privacy violations and is also investigating Google for antitrust violations.



     

    Seems like 'privacy' is a dirty word around Google HQ; not the kind of people I'll be trusting with my health details.

  • Reply 30 of 93
    As usual, Amazon will come up the rear with a cheaper 4th solution, free to Prime members, with some novelty feature, like fitness tracking with 3D voice search with Dr. Amy, your live health advisor.*


    (*not actual doctor and not licensed to practice medicine in your state, see terms and conditions for more details)
  • Reply 31 of 93
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    rayz wrote: »
    Mmmmm.

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/f-t-c-fines-google-22-5-million-for-safari-privacy-violations/


    Seems like 'privacy' is a dirty word around Google HQ; not the kind of people I'll be trusting with my health details.

    That was incorrect. Google's fine was for giving wrong instructions to Safari users on how to avoid tracking. It was not the tracking itself that was at issue. Heck that's done by thousands of companies even today. Setting your preference right now to "Do Not Track" won't prevent a couple dozen trackers from gleaning data from your use of AI's forums as you read this.

    Here's the real explanation for the fine. Had Google not offered instructions on opting out of tracking there would not have been any fine whatsoever.The fine was because they placed a tracking cookie after inaccurately telling Safari users how they could avoid it Unfortunately it's not illegal to ignore Do Not Track and probably never will be.
    http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2012/08/google-will-pay-225-million-settle-ftc-charges-it-misrepresented
  • Reply 32 of 93
    kellya74ukellya74u Posts: 171member
    As I recall from the presentation at WWDC, the iPhone Heath apps would capture your data & send it to your health care provider, who would then call you to warn of any dangerous conditions or schedule you for a visit. Does that info also or then go to your insurance carrier who says, 'holy crap, this person is suddenly a high risk for expensive surgeries & on-goining medical care...quick, raise his rates.'

    In other news, the xxxx medical database was hacked & all id's & related medical records taken.
  • Reply 33 of 93
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,480member
    genovelle wrote: »
    That's what I remember. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/19/google-pay-17-million-apple-tracking
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/aug/09/google-record-fine-ftc-safari

    On a side note. I found it comical that typing in Google fine brought up everything but Google fines until I put in the e. Then it was still toward the bottom. 400
    Here are a couple of interesting searches and what they suggest, but we know Google does no wrong[IMG]400
    400
  • Reply 34 of 93
    Okay, so privacy, business leads, data mining, etc., aside, and given that Windows will obviously have to jump into this at some point as well, what about that one, all important factor for the consumer that inevitably gets ignored?

    Interoperability.

    Will my Apple Healthkit data be visible to the clinic that decided to use either the Samsung, Google, or Windows version of a health app kit?

    And when do Verizon, Comcast, and all the rest, get into the fray - come on, think about it - you're in your home, connected by all your devices of choice by...your ISP! Appliance makers? Your fridge could be making suggestions for your eating habits!

    Just plug the chip in our spinal cords and call it a day already...
  • Reply 35 of 93
    blah64blah64 Posts: 993member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

    I will only be trusting one source for my health. My doctor. Not Apple, Not Google, Not Microsoft, Not wikipedia, Not WebMD, not some fancy 'wearable'. A trained living/breathing medical professional. 



    I sympathize with this attitude, but you need to take it a step further. The person with the most interest in your well-being is yourself. Period, full-stop, end of story. It's always a good idea to include your health professionals in your decision-making processes, but they are human and make mistakes. They are also affected by various influences like money, status and institutional pressures around them every single day.

    Consult with "living/breathing medical professionals", but remember the adage "trust but verify", and you will live a longer, healthier life. Do your own research, share with your physician(s), come to mutual decisions.
  • Reply 36 of 93
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Negafox View Post

     

    *Sigh* Is this the marketing bullet-point for this year from companies that people will briefly play with and then ignore?


    Yes. I even have some of the API code here for those interested:

     

    // Apple HealthKit

    BOOL AppleWillFailAtThis()

    {

        return YES;

    }

     

    // Google Fit

    boolean andSoWillGoogle()

    {

        return true;

    }

  • Reply 37 of 93
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Medical tracking is coming whether wanted or not and I have no idea how anyone is going to avoid it.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/12/us-google-health-idUSKBN0EN2MG20140612

    Heck it's not even anything new. How do you think your insurance company is aware of your some health-related issues you might have?
    http://www.mib.com/
  • Reply 38 of 93
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,095member
    Apple will inform me my blood pressure is too high.

    Google will inform me my blood pressure is too high, then proceed to recommend various elixirs and cure-alls by the recommended ad-sponsors, and every website I visit will have strategically inserted ads about said blood pressure.

    This will be yet another quickie project for Google that will forever remain in beta. Just wait and see.

    No thanks.
  • Reply 39 of 93
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    FYI: The fine was not for "stealing" information from Safari users. Nor was it for (purposeful/accidental) bypassing of Do Not Track settings. Another FYI: There's no requirement for Do Not Track settings to be respected in any event. That's why it's commonly ignored.
    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/yahoo-is-the-latest-company-ignoring-web-users-requests-for-privacy/

    Yes, Do no evil, indeed. Google could have at least try to be ethical.
  • Reply 40 of 93
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    Sorry, Googs. You are getting no way near my medical records.
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