I love this tweet from John Gruber. And for all the complaints about visual clues in iOS 7/8, WTF are a triangle, circle and square supposed to represent?
@gruber: I’m so sick of iOS’s borderless buttons, I’m going to switch to Android. Wait, what? http://t.co/RluN1yH2By
With the Android Phone to the HDTV demo? Perhaps, but I thought that was really closer to AirPlay in that it was showing info on the TV from the phone. Continuity/Handoff would need to work between other devices and I doubt many Android users have Chrome machines so unless Google makes an app for Windows that can handle this I doubt it will happen.
Do you have a time in the video so we can check it out?
It's really great to see software companies all taking design so seriously nowadays. I mean, first there was MS and their redesign of Windows 8 (no comment on its functionality or looks) - they realised that users want a cohesive experience across all devices and platforms. Then came Apple with iOS7. (though they've always been brilliant at design, anyone remember the anecdote about Jobs firing someone because they said typography wasn't important?) I suppose iOS and Mac OS X have always been well-designed, though a shake-up was long overdue for the former and somewhat exciting for the latter. Those two, I hazard, will be a cohesive experience done right. And now finally Google has jumped on board with their new design language, "Material Design" (ignoring the fact it will probably never reach 90% of current Android devices).
I think that the aesthetics and tone of the UIs really represent their parent companies. Windows 8 is MS's effort to reinvent themselves as fun and colourful and modern. iOS 7/8 and Mac OS X 10.10, with the subtlety of the Gaussian blur and relatively sparing colourfulness (in terms of app menus ect), represented Apple's serious and careful nature. And now "Material Design" represents Google and their fun, light-hearted, and modern approach to everything they do.
Comparing this to the 80s and 90s, when a good UI was one that did the job, not one that helped the user to do the job better, this is a welcome progression.
And people hate on iOS 7? At least Ive was only in a 5 minute video. Unlike Google who had umpteen people on stage spewing designer geek crap.
Someone in the forums said Apple made iOS 7 full of bright screens and colors because Android dare not go there for fear of draining their precious battery life by lighting up all those jumbo sized OLEDs.
Someone in the forums said Apple made iOS 7 full of bright screens and colors because Android dare not go there for fear of draining their precious battery life by lighting up all those jumbo sized OLEDs.
Looks like I was wrong! Google fell for it!
I think Samsung is the only major OEM pushing AMOLEDs; after all, it's their own technology. Most others use IPS.
I love this tweet from John Gruber. And for all the complaints about visual clues in iOS 7/8, WTF are a triangle, circle and square supposed to represent?
I dunno but if they add an X button to that, they can call it PlayStation.
Wow, look at all of those geeks and perverts in that one picture, sitting there wearing Google Glass on their faces.
And Android L? What kind of a lame name is that?
Android L is better then naming it a dessert, that way when they say android so much better "insert android version" you are thinking that a $50 month supply of dessert is better then one of there $50 devices.
Look at this presentation slide. They’ve ground up all their shame into a powder, snorted it, and then self-drove around the neighborhood leaving flaming sacks of dog doo on the porches of Apple employees.
Hey, look. DO NOT DISTURB. Wonder where they got that idea.
Android L: Loser. And all the myriad variations we’ll come up with.
Copycats. "The features in iOS have existed in android for years." And yet, you're just adding quick reply, do not disturb, Android Auto, etc. Yeah rights
Someone in the forums said Apple made iOS 7 full of bright screens and colors because Android dare not go there for fear of draining their precious battery life by lighting up all those jumbo sized OLEDs.
Looks like I was wrong! Google fell for it!
10 minutes or 15 minutes, still going to need a case that 10 times the size of a 5S.
It's nice having the same battery life whether your screen is mostly dark or mostly bright. iPhones users don't have to fret about these things.
It is, not to mention excellent color representation without using clever ways to cheat on the number of pixels by skimping on sub pixels, but I digress. I think it may behoove Apple to use an OLED display in this rumoured iWatch because it should show a couple simple lines to denote the time while the rest of it is black. This might be a way to maintain a luxury face appeal without using much power.
If you are a heavy sleeper, they could also press your finger to a TouchID sensor.
Sure, but that's far less likely.
It's like the difference between shooting someone and knifing someone. :P
I have to watch the press conference, I haven't seen it yet. But certainly, the new OS does look very "iOS" (which is fine, I'm kind of over the whole who-borrowed-what stuff - I think it's pretty clear for anyone who isn't biased).
Can someone please explain to me just what the **** these people are doing with Google Glass on their faces while watching the keynote, besides making some sort of douchebag statement? The thing can't even record a clip beyond a few seconds, so its not like theyre recording the keynote. I have no problem with devices like Google Glass when they have a real benefit to the user in that specific situation. But Glass evangelists are insistent on basically wearing them ALL THE TIME, for no fucking reason whatsoever.
I was contemplating saying something about these guys, but then I thought it would just be a cheap shot.
I'm just glad you exist Slurpy. You call a spade a spade.
The reason that it's currently called Android L is because it's still a developer preview. Once L is released, it will get a proper name.
This is a big change. In the past, Google have worked with one manufacturer to create a flagship device for each release. Only once this flagship device was shipped did the other manufacturers get their hands on the new OS version. We've all seen the results - rushed updates and phones dropping off the support list very quickly. Google have now moved to a model closer to Apple's, giving manufacturers and developers time to update their products before the next version of Android is released.
In one day we have Android L with several features that appear to be inspired by iOS, Android TV, Android in the Car and AndroidWatch.
And they say only Samsung is copying Apple's playbook
It's almost as though both sides should drop the 'we had feature X first' dick-waving and realise that competing products are always going to inspire one another, and that the consumer is the biggest winner when that happens.
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In one day we have Android L with several features that appear to be inspired by iOS, Android TV, Android in the Car and AndroidWatch.
And they say only Samsung is copying Apple's playbook
Right because iWatch was a serious competitive inspiration for Google's design here!
@gruber: I’m so sick of iOS’s borderless buttons, I’m going to switch to Android. Wait, what? http://t.co/RluN1yH2By
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And people think Apple gets too pretentious and self important about its designs? WTF is this bullshit?
It looks like Fisher-Price designed it. Terrible.
With the Android Phone to the HDTV demo? Perhaps, but I thought that was really closer to AirPlay in that it was showing info on the TV from the phone. Continuity/Handoff would need to work between other devices and I doubt many Android users have Chrome machines so unless Google makes an app for Windows that can handle this I doubt it will happen.
Do you have a time in the video so we can check it out?
I think that the aesthetics and tone of the UIs really represent their parent companies. Windows 8 is MS's effort to reinvent themselves as fun and colourful and modern. iOS 7/8 and Mac OS X 10.10, with the subtlety of the Gaussian blur and relatively sparing colourfulness (in terms of app menus ect), represented Apple's serious and careful nature. And now "Material Design" represents Google and their fun, light-hearted, and modern approach to everything they do.
Comparing this to the 80s and 90s, when a good UI was one that did the job, not one that helped the user to do the job better, this is a welcome progression.
Don't you think there should be a little give and take? I mean in the last 3 years alone Apple has borrowed liberally from Android.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-copied-android-in-ios-7-2013-6?op=1
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-copied-features-2014-6
http://time.com/2818206/ios-8-android/
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/apple-copies-a-bunch-of-features-from-android-calls-it-ios5-updated/2295
Someone in the forums said Apple made iOS 7 full of bright screens and colors because Android dare not go there for fear of draining their precious battery life by lighting up all those jumbo sized OLEDs.
Looks like I was wrong! Google fell for it!
Someone in the forums said Apple made iOS 7 full of bright screens and colors because Android dare not go there for fear of draining their precious battery life by lighting up all those jumbo sized OLEDs.
Looks like I was wrong! Google fell for it!
I think Samsung is the only major OEM pushing AMOLEDs; after all, it's their own technology. Most others use IPS.
I dunno but if they add an X button to that, they can call it PlayStation.
Android L is better then naming it a dessert, that way when they say android so much better "insert android version" you are thinking that a $50 month supply of dessert is better then one of there $50 devices.
Wonder where the quick reply idea came too?
Probably 0-5% like usual.
You could send them a email via gmail to recommend different.
To make the experience all the better, (they don't me user, but hacker).
You can steal a iPhone and try fake fingerprints or steal a android phone and watch with no security, which is easier?
They would complain either way.
Who said that, and wonder how easy it would be to fake with that?
We know almost everybody's copied apple, wheather they admit or not.
10 minutes or 15 minutes, still going to need a case that 10 times the size of a 5S.
It's nice having the same battery life whether your screen is mostly dark or mostly bright. iPhones users don't have to fret about these things.
It is, not to mention excellent color representation without using clever ways to cheat on the number of pixels by skimping on sub pixels, but I digress. I think it may behoove Apple to use an OLED display in this rumoured iWatch because it should show a couple simple lines to denote the time while the rest of it is black. This might be a way to maintain a luxury face appeal without using much power.
Android L (lag)
If you are a heavy sleeper, they could also press your finger to a TouchID sensor.
Sure, but that's far less likely.
It's like the difference between shooting someone and knifing someone. :P
I have to watch the press conference, I haven't seen it yet. But certainly, the new OS does look very "iOS" (which is fine, I'm kind of over the whole who-borrowed-what stuff - I think it's pretty clear for anyone who isn't biased).
Can someone please explain to me just what the **** these people are doing with Google Glass on their faces while watching the keynote, besides making some sort of douchebag statement? The thing can't even record a clip beyond a few seconds, so its not like theyre recording the keynote. I have no problem with devices like Google Glass when they have a real benefit to the user in that specific situation. But Glass evangelists are insistent on basically wearing them ALL THE TIME, for no fucking reason whatsoever.
I was contemplating saying something about these guys, but then I thought it would just be a cheap shot.
I'm just glad you exist Slurpy. You call a spade a spade.
Actually, you call a spade a f**king spade!
And people hate on iOS 7? At least Ive was only in a 5 minute video. Unlike Google who had umpteen people on stage spewing designer geek crap.
Thanks for the screenshot lady. The AI article didn't do a good job of showing what exactly the new UI was like.
This one sums it up nicely.
I don't have an opinion.
The reason that it's currently called Android L is because it's still a developer preview. Once L is released, it will get a proper name.
This is a big change. In the past, Google have worked with one manufacturer to create a flagship device for each release. Only once this flagship device was shipped did the other manufacturers get their hands on the new OS version. We've all seen the results - rushed updates and phones dropping off the support list very quickly. Google have now moved to a model closer to Apple's, giving manufacturers and developers time to update their products before the next version of Android is released.
In one day we have Android L with several features that appear to be inspired by iOS, Android TV, Android in the Car and AndroidWatch.
And they say only Samsung is copying Apple's playbook
It's almost as though both sides should drop the 'we had feature X first' dick-waving and realise that competing products are always going to inspire one another, and that the consumer is the biggest winner when that happens.