Apple pulls fast one with new iMacs (READ)

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
After successfully lying my ass off to the guy in the library, I convinced him to let me stay in the computer lab next to the library to watch the keynote. I would have watched in the library contently however none of the computers had sound. My excuse you ask? "I need sound to do my work. I have to analyze a company for my economics class and watch this". It got me a room to myself to watch.



Anyway, on to what this is truely about. Watching the iMacs being unveiled I noticed what Jobs said about the shipping. "We are going to start by offering the high-end model with Super Drive, shipping this month, because we feel that the demand will be greater for these models" THe others will ship in Febuary and March. If you ask me, that's just Apple's little way of saying "Yep, we want more of your money". There's no way they can't ship the other two machines at the same time. Apple is pulling a fast one here.
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    Whiner. Go get a Dell.
  • Reply 2 of 30
    neomacneomac Posts: 145member
    [quote]Originally posted by bradbower:

    <strong>Whiner. Go get a Dell.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Wow, how original!



    The man has a valid point. 3 months to ship a new computer? It's bad business.
  • Reply 3 of 30
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    For all we know, Apple might not have even began manufacturing these, because they didn't want any leaks on the new design/features. They had a backlog before anybody even KNEW about the new iMac. I think Apple is going to be having these made as fast as possible.. and you're going to get it as soon as you can. There's not much you can do, and while I understand that complaining might make you feel better in the meantime, it probably won't accomplish much.



    Also, for all we know, this could be worst case scenario, and Apple has taken into consideration way more orders than will actually occur; you might be in for a pleasant surprise. If you know anything about PR or marketing, that's always better than a negative one.



    Anyway, there is a difference between complaining about 3 months wait, and complaining that Apple is trying to "pull a fast one" and screw over customers. If you don't like how Apple does business, go get a PC. More iMacs for me



    Heck, you think you have probs? I know somebody who has already promised quite a few clients new top-of-the-line iMacs by the end of the month.. I'm talking *quite* a few tens of thousands of dollars here. And it doesn't look like he'll be getting them in time.



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  • Reply 3 of 30
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    Of course! Most people will just say to themselves...



    "I don't want to have to wait another month for the one I want. I'll just spend an extra $300."
  • Reply 5 of 30
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    thought the same thing. why is it going to take 2 months more to stick a slower chip in, a smaller ram stick and hard drive and a different optical drive?



    either

    1.) The new imac is hard to manufacture and Apple doesn't have the production capacity.

    or

    2.) Apple just wants everyone to buy the 1800 one
  • Reply 6 of 30
    eliahueliahu Posts: 71member
    Excellent obsevation, TigerWoods.



    I tried to think of an excuse as to why this would be the case, but none really floats. I thought, perhaps some supplies are constrained (ie flat panels). Even if this were the case, they could still produce all three models and have a limited supply of each.



    When I saw the planned rollout scheme the first thing I thought was that they're testing the waters. They want to feel out demand before they start committing to production. Looks like they also want to rake in some cash in case the new iMac doesn't play well.
  • Reply 7 of 30
    LOL I get called a whiner for this post. Incredible. Go read my other venting post.



    Exactly.
  • Reply 8 of 30
    [quote]Whiner. Go get a Dell.<hr></blockquote>



    *runs to get some RDF antidote*



    Some people are such sheep.
  • Reply 9 of 30
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>

    If you ask me, that's just Apple's little way of saying "Yep, we want more of your money". There's no way they can't ship the other two machines at the same time. Apple is pulling a fast one here.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    "Pulling a fast one?!"



    Let there be no mistake -- Apple wants more of your money! When you come across a publically traded company that DOESN'T want more of your money, let me know please.



    Furthermore, releasing a hot, new, in-demand product at a premium to begin with is an industry-wide practice. Dell does it, Sony does it, Gateway does it, IBM does it, and so on.



    Apple knows that there are many people who will fall in love with this thing and WANT ONE -- their impulse of WANTING ONE will be stronger than their feelings about which specific model is the best deal or which one has the features they really need. Those people will buy one as soon as they're available, and if Apple wants to sell them a better computer at a higher price, it's not like they're getting ripped off.



    Sure, many of those people would buy the cheapest model on Jan 31 if all 3 models were available, and Apple would get less money that way. Big deal. Early adopters of hot new products always pay more. At least this way they GET more (Superdrive, 800mhz CPU, etc.)
  • Reply 10 of 30
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    Apple is obviously expecting huge demand with the new iMac- demand they doubt they can keep up with.



    As a company, Apple haw to fill the orders of those who have spend more money on the machine. It's a good business practice.



    I think that it's fairly obvious that the iMac shipping times are fairly pessimistic as well. That way, Jobs can 'surprise' everyone when all of the iMac models are shipping at MWTY.
  • Reply 11 of 30
    majormattmajormatt Posts: 1,077member
    This is because releasing the $1299 iMac would cut into tower sales more so than the $1799 iMac. So when the Towers are released in Tokyo the $1799 iMac will look less attractive and the lower iMac models will take their place for the ones who sell more.



    I think that makes sense.
  • Reply 12 of 30
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    They're gonna beat the ship times. They'll probably have all three models shipping by the end of Feb.



    This model is gonna a whole lot faster by the end of the year too. Those are plain jane G4's running in there (with the on die cache.) Not the coolest chip by far. Apollo and G5 ar coming. iMac will probably be at/over a Ghz by mid year, at least on the high end.
  • Reply 13 of 30




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  • Reply 14 of 30
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    [quote]Originally posted by DoctorGonzo:

    <strong>



    *runs to get some RDF antidote*



    Some people are such sheep.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not only is this expected of Apple, and a perfectly fine practice in the industry--but I just don't mind. I'm too psyched about the iMac to get brought down by some pessimistic shipping estimates.
  • Reply 15 of 30
    Well, i just bought the high end iMac model. I am pumped. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 16 of 30
    spindlerspindler Posts: 713member
    Very observant point MajorMatt. I like the sound of Towers at Tokyo. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Apple filling the demand for the $1799 machines first. It's not like they are holding back anything. If one person had got their $1299 machine then the other guy who wanted a $1799 machine would have to wait instead. If someone has to wait anyway, why wouldn't Apple do what's in their favor? Also, by selling more SuperDrives, they probably bring down the cost quicker.
  • Reply 17 of 30
    norfanorfa Posts: 171member
    I'm happy about the new iMac. my old 400 DVSE was bought right after it was announced and it's still runinng fine, am I pissed I went for a DVD unit instead of the cheaper cd-rom model that came later? I've had no complaints whatsoever. I haven't used the DVD unit often, but for a while it was my only DVD player. This time I'll wait a year. 2800 canadian is too much for a computer in my estimation. But in 8 months time when it's down around $1899 and the next one is about to come out at 1.2 gig, I'll buy one of these. Ya just have to employ a strategy that gets you what you want, at a good price, and that is never, buy the latest hotest thing as soon as it come out.
  • Reply 18 of 30
    cobracobra Posts: 253member
    I would imagine that procurement of LCD screens is a tad harder than with CRT's.



    At least in the quantities needed.



    This could well become the biggest LCD based product to date.
  • Reply 19 of 30
    cobracobra Posts: 253member
    And truthfully, the $1799.00 model has the best bang for the buck.



    The $1299.00 model kinda sucks ass.



    The $1499.00 model is okay.



    Ideally, the best scenario would have been $1699.00 on the highend and $1399.00 on the lowend.



    Just 2 models.
  • Reply 20 of 30
    max8319max8319 Posts: 347member
    Look at the thing! it's gotta be a bitch to put together! heck, with most PCs, you go buy a basic box and put all the components in (not too hard).....this imac has everything running against it. it's round! and it's short. it's not like most PCs at all.....then you got to go and attach an LCD on a pivoting bar.



    The imac is far harder to produce then nearly every other computer. when the original imac came out, i would guess that it also took them a while to get manufacturing going cause of the imacs comparitively hard assembly.
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