Only Google Glass and Chromecast in recent times.
(The former by Foxconn, the latter by Google themselves)
Then there is the Nexus line depending on how you view it.
solipsismx wrote: »
1) Don't forget Hyundai and LG.
2) I bought a Hyundai. So far a good deal for the money.
chez whitey wrote: »
Hyundai & Kia cost less but Honda and Toyota better value & can be resold for good % of cost at anytime of ownership
solipsismx wrote: »
Meh. I cared more for the longer bumper-to-bumper warranty than anything else.
Historically, isn't creating a new OS (even for phones) an exceedingly difficult task and one frequently prone to failure? Does Samsung have any experience creating OSes? This seems like more of Samsung just competing for competition's sake. No real strategy, no clear plan - let's just try this and see what sticks to the wall.
Does Samsung have any experience creating OSes?
Even if they didn't, they have someone who does.
ken_sanders_aia wrote: »
For sure, Google can no longer claim with a straight face that Android is 'open'... That was Andy Rubin's vision, and Google went along to sign up new OEMs and grow adoption, but now that they have market share, Larry is clamping down...
What a mess Android has become...
And the inevitable Google pushback is starting to appear from many directions...
andysol wrote: »
My dad always said- "a $500 repair beats a $500 car payment".
andysol wrote: »
Google is being a bully to Samsung? Try enforcer. Bullies pick on innocents. Samsung is guilty of being the worst company on earth. Have at 'em Google
Samsung... will be surprised to learn that people who buy Galaxy are primarily Android fans not Samsung fans.
I'd like to agree with the totality of your argument, but I am not so sure this is a correct assessment. I think people who buy Galaxy are primarily platform oblivious, and merely buy what Walmart or Bestbuy or their current telco carrier is offering them for under a buck, so long as it lets them text and play a few free games. They won't buy apps, they won't buy expensive (quality-built) phones/tablets, and they just want a shiny-new device every 12 months to show off to their friends. Oh, and it should have a 64 gigapixels camera, because... pixels!
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You'd think so, but they continue to copy one-another ad nauseam.
"Just like iPhone, but different!"
"We lead by following!"
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I don't like Samsung because they are crooked to the core.
I don't like Google because they try to steal products and make a run for it and they always fail. Google Wallet was a stolen product just like Android was a stolen product. Wait until Oracle gets a hold of theses crooks.
I think Google is the bully. Samsung is just not an easy victim.
It's funny to see that Samsung (appalling though its copying tactics are) is more or less in the same situation as Apple. They are a hardware vendor for which the software is a means to sell devices (actually, Apple is more an 'integrated experience' vendor). They are both up against pure software giants like Google and Amazon, both of the bullying kind (Amazon in the publishing world is even a worse bully than Google in any of their endeavors). What is it that makes 'software and services' giants so easily into bullies? Is it maybe necessary for their survival/success? Is it built into their business model?
I think Samsung would love to be in Apple's situation vis-a-vis software. Given their volume, if they are able to build their own ecosystem with their own OS that can be installed also on existing devices (back to S3-level stuff) they could in one fell swoop completely destroy Android. It's a tough one though, because they would also need to build a fair number of apps to start with. Suppose they:
- develop the OS, make sure it runs on a large volume of existing devices
- when it is done, announce it and promote heavily the development of apps for the first release, build an app store
- go live
Not realistic, of course, but hey fantasizing is fun. They would need a very strong leadership pushing the vision to pull this off. If they don't pull this off, it seems Google in the end must win because they have Samsung by the balls as Samsung cannot sell a device without Google's OS.
Ah well, as someone else stated: time to get out the popcorn