Yea but BlacBerry isn't a greedy oil company, they make phones. Okay, I jumped too l conclusions but it's still getting a little old wishing that every Apple competitor just simply go away.
Such disdain for anyone that dared bad mouth the iPhone. What was the CEO of a competitor supposed to say?
There is nothing wrong with BlackBery, their new OS 10.3 is very nice. I really don't want to see them go, there isn't many phone manufactures who still produce a mobile with a keyboard. I for one am looking forward to their new Passport and will be the first one in line to buy it when it's released in September. That and the last thing we want is less competition in the mobile world, we need more players not less.
Doesn't matter if we want more companies in mobile, if no ones buying them, they can't afford to keep the doors open. Maybe they should do more with licensing their OS to others. We have plenty of companies making phones to choose from, no problem there. Maybe you're saying we need more OS's?
"As of 2013, Ford had about 181,000 total employees, so the more than 9,000 iPhones the company plans to distribute won't put a huge dent in its workforce"
I don't think that's a relevant comparison -- why would ford provide a smartphone to assembly line workers? The relevant number would be the total number of white collar employees.
It isn't. I used the number in an earlier thread to note to some people that have a concept that the IBM-Apple agreement will unleash the flood gates of new phone sales. It won't. This in fact shows that such conversions are so minor to Apple that corps aren't worth pursuing as a HW issue. The big win (or loss if you were hoping to have your boss pay for your phone) is that IBM brings a iOS BYOD competency that allows big companies to switch from BES (it wasn't the Blackberry, but corporate IT who invested 100's of thousands of dollars learning how to keep BES and Exchange/Notes provisioned and synced and secured to corporate standards).
on your 2nd statement "Why would 'X' provide a smartphone for their 'rank and file' work force?"
That's the long game. What's the killer app to put on an iPad Mini that can help your workforce... I don't know, but each company that commits to iOS as a std platform can develop one for their environment, and the deployment is the same as the CEO's iPhone.
I've already professed a USPS postal carrier app, that tracks time and motion, provides address lookup or other hints while on foot, emergency contact, and even health kit based monitoring. That's 300,000 some users.
The win for Apple, is iOS as the standard UI development environment for a corporation, supplanting HTML, and potentially Windows. That's Big, People.... Big.
Doesn't matter if we want more companies in mobile, if no ones buying them, they can't afford to keep the doors open. Maybe they should do more with licensing their OS to others. We have plenty of companies making phones to choose from, no problem there. Maybe you're saying we need more OS's?
This is where some of you lose me. Some say 'hardware and software' is the way to go. That didn't work for Palm or BB, and it would lead to more than 5 different OSs if the remaining players tried it. License the OS, and it gets ridiculed for doing what MS did. Seems like a no win situation.
There is nothing wrong with BlackBery, their new OS 10.3 is very nice. I really don't want to see them go, there isn't many phone manufactures who still produce a mobile with a keyboard. I for one am looking forward to their new Passport and will be the first one in line to buy it when it's released in September. That and the last thing we want is less competition in the mobile world, we need more players not less.
Why is it that when Apple is already in the game, we need more players but when Apple first gets in, the people ridicule them stating epic Fail.
Why is it that when Apple is already in the game, we need more players but when Apple first gets in, the people ridicule them stating epic Fail.
Manufacturers weren't dropping like flies back them. They were all making money. Now there's only 2 making money, and the second one it seems is on the way down. What's the landscape going to look like in a few years? A lot sadder with a lot less players than there were a few years ago. Are you really that indifferent to the signs?
Since developers won't make any worthwhile apps for BB they modified their OS to run Android apps.
That still doesn't explain the 'crickets chirping from the Android bleacher' comment. Why would they care to comment if Ford switched from BB to iPhone?
That still doesn't explain the 'crickets chirping from the Android bleacher' comment. Why would they care to comment if Ford switched from BB to iPhone?
It wasn't supposed to, Relic didn't get it. Why would it matter to other Android users? Maybe they had the same aweful BB experience that I did and wouldn't care what happens to BB to matter what apps they run.
Manufacturers weren't dropping like flies back them. They were all making money. Now there's only 2 making money, and the second one it seems is on the way down. What's the landscape going to look like in a few years? A lot sadder with a lot less players than there were a few years ago. Are you really that indifferent to the signs?
And why is that Apple's fault? If the others want to commoditize their wares, let them. Besides when did profit dictate competition. I thought it was all about "choice"
It wasn't supposed to, Relic didn't get it. Why would it matter to other Android users? Maybe they had the same aweful BB experience that I did and wouldn't care what happens to BB to matter what apps they run.
Then why did the OP concern themselves with whether or not there were comments from the Android bleacher? The article clearly does not pertain to them. If he had nothing to say about the article, then why derail the thread with a 'Android' comment?
And why is that Apple's fault? If the others want to commoditize their wares, let them. Besides when did profit dictate competition. I thought it was all about "choice"
Where did I say that it was Apple's fault? The fault is theirs alone. It is all about choice, but in a few years those choices are going to be severely limited.
Then why did the OP concern themselves with whether or not there were comments from the Android bleacher? The article clearly does not pertain to them. If he had nothing to say about the article, then why derail the thread with a 'Android' comment?
Why don't you ask the person who made the Android remark? I commented on someone who commented on the android post. Calm down.
Bye Bye Blackberry. Why does anyone still own one? iPhone with iOS 7/8 is streets ahead. RIP.
This is why - On Monday, Germany’s Federal Ministry of the Interior said it wants more of its officials using encrypted BlackBerrys. Only BlackBerry smartphones comply with the ministry’s security standards for use with Secusmart’s technology, he said Monday. A bit more - German publication Bild recently reported that the country’s interior ministry was looking to buy 20,000 ultra-secure smartphones
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Such disdain for anyone that dared bad mouth the iPhone. What was the CEO of a competitor supposed to say?
Blackberry doesn't produce Android devices, I don't get it?
No, I don’t suppose you would.
Such disdain for anyone that dared bad mouth the iPhone. What was the CEO of a competitor supposed to say?
I don't care to hear someone bad mouthing any platform.
No, I don’t suppose you would.
Okay, then explain it to me.
Doesn't matter if we want more companies in mobile, if no ones buying them, they can't afford to keep the doors open. Maybe they should do more with licensing their OS to others. We have plenty of companies making phones to choose from, no problem there. Maybe you're saying we need more OS's?
"As of 2013, Ford had about 181,000 total employees, so the more than 9,000 iPhones the company plans to distribute won't put a huge dent in its workforce"
I don't think that's a relevant comparison -- why would ford provide a smartphone to assembly line workers? The relevant number would be the total number of white collar employees.
It isn't. I used the number in an earlier thread to note to some people that have a concept that the IBM-Apple agreement will unleash the flood gates of new phone sales. It won't. This in fact shows that such conversions are so minor to Apple that corps aren't worth pursuing as a HW issue. The big win (or loss if you were hoping to have your boss pay for your phone) is that IBM brings a iOS BYOD competency that allows big companies to switch from BES (it wasn't the Blackberry, but corporate IT who invested 100's of thousands of dollars learning how to keep BES and Exchange/Notes provisioned and synced and secured to corporate standards).
on your 2nd statement "Why would 'X' provide a smartphone for their 'rank and file' work force?"
That's the long game. What's the killer app to put on an iPad Mini that can help your workforce... I don't know, but each company that commits to iOS as a std platform can develop one for their environment, and the deployment is the same as the CEO's iPhone.
I've already professed a USPS postal carrier app, that tracks time and motion, provides address lookup or other hints while on foot, emergency contact, and even health kit based monitoring. That's 300,000 some users.
The win for Apple, is iOS as the standard UI development environment for a corporation, supplanting HTML, and potentially Windows. That's Big, People.... Big.
Man I wish the iPhone had a keyboard, why do company's think that we don't want a physical keyboard anymore.
Funniest post of the day!
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This is where some of you lose me. Some say 'hardware and software' is the way to go. That didn't work for Palm or BB, and it would lead to more than 5 different OSs if the remaining players tried it. License the OS, and it gets ridiculed for doing what MS did. Seems like a no win situation.
Why is it that when Apple is already in the game, we need more players but when Apple first gets in, the people ridicule them stating epic Fail.
Since developers won't make any worthwhile apps for BB they modified their OS to run Android apps.
Manufacturers weren't dropping like flies back them. They were all making money. Now there's only 2 making money, and the second one it seems is on the way down. What's the landscape going to look like in a few years? A lot sadder with a lot less players than there were a few years ago. Are you really that indifferent to the signs?
That still doesn't explain the 'crickets chirping from the Android bleacher' comment. Why would they care to comment if Ford switched from BB to iPhone?
It wasn't supposed to, Relic didn't get it. Why would it matter to other Android users? Maybe they had the same aweful BB experience that I did and wouldn't care what happens to BB to matter what apps they run.
And why is that Apple's fault? If the others want to commoditize their wares, let them. Besides when did profit dictate competition. I thought it was all about "choice"
Then why did the OP concern themselves with whether or not there were comments from the Android bleacher? The article clearly does not pertain to them. If he had nothing to say about the article, then why derail the thread with a 'Android' comment?
Where did I say that it was Apple's fault? The fault is theirs alone. It is all about choice, but in a few years those choices are going to be severely limited.
Why don't you ask the person who made the Android remark? I commented on someone who commented on the android post. Calm down.
I am calm, but you answered a question that wasn't directed at you. My questions to you were rhetorical.
Ouch!… That's gotta hurt.
Bye Bye Blackberry. Why does anyone still own one? iPhone with iOS 7/8 is streets ahead. RIP.
This is why - On Monday, Germany’s Federal Ministry of the Interior said it wants more of its officials using encrypted BlackBerrys. Only BlackBerry smartphones comply with the ministry’s security standards for use with Secusmart’s technology, he said Monday. A bit more - German publication Bild recently reported that the country’s interior ministry was looking to buy 20,000 ultra-secure smartphones