Apple to hold 'iPhone 6' media event on Sept. 9 - report

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  • Reply 141 of 157
    philboogie wrote: »
    That's true. And it sucked. The new 16:9 also sucks, when taking a photo. It's the worst camera one can have since the sensor is 4:3 making a composition very difficult. But I don't see them going to 4:3 for their screen, and making a sensor 16:9 is a big no no. Still, it is the camera that's always with me, so I just need to relax, zoom out and crop afterwards. Which sucks; a photo out to be taken as-is, not altered after the fact.

    Are all camera sensors still 60% as high as they are wide—i.e., 1 2/3:1? That's how they always used to be, even though the pictures from most cameras were 4:3. That means that 25% of the pixels on the sensor went unused—but they were included in the specs: so the actual value was 80% of the rated value.

    This may have changed in recent years, I don't know.
  • Reply 142 of 157
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

    The new 16:9 also sucks, when taking a photo.

     

    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 

  • Reply 143 of 157
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     
    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

    The new 16:9 also sucks, when taking a photo.

     

    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 


     

    I'd love some trickster to hack into YouTube and turn every video into Portrait Mode for a day. Imagine the comments...

  • Reply 144 of 157
    mj webmj web Posts: 918member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post



    There's no credible evidence a 5.5" is coming.

    Most Apple rumors are credible these days because Apple disseminates its own rumors. ;)

  • Reply 145 of 157
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post

    I'd love some trickster to hack into YouTube and turn every video into Portrait Mode for a day. Imagine the comments...




    Didn’t Google flip YouTube upside down for April Fool’s Day once?

  • Reply 146 of 157

    ok, I think his reasoning is BS but so is yours. How poor can they be if they're buying a Galaxy Note? For goodness sake the damned things may be Samsung crap but they are far from free! The people who are too poor to buy iPads buy crappy android tablets. The people who buy a Note are people who just want one device and aren't as sensitive to one handed use or the "oh my, I just look silly with something that big next to my head" argument. The 5.5" form factor is for a niche market. It doesn't make sense for Apple to go after it if they stick with a single form factor as they've done in the past but if they diversify their iPhone lineup the way they did with their other product lines then it becomes a real option, regardless of what the "I pray to the ghost of Steve Jobs every night" purists say. With the smartphone market maturing this maybe the time that Apple decide to diversity to keep their growth going... or not. Either way you can be sure they'll make a ton of money. 

  • Reply 147 of 157
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by msalganik View Post

    How poor can they be if they're buying a Galaxy Note? For goodness sake the damned things may be Samsung crap but they are far from free!



    Because they’re rarely, if ever, sold at full price.

     

    The people who buy a Note are people who just want one device and aren't as sensitive to one handed use or the "oh my, I just look silly with something that big next to my head" argument.


     

    Gump was a big celebrity,

    He told JFK that he really had to pee,

    He never feels too dumb because,

    His mom always told him, “Stupid is as stupid does.

     

    With the smartphone market maturing this maybe the time that Apple decide to diversity to keep their growth going... or not. Either way you can be sure they'll make a ton of money. 


     

    It’s no fun when you reduce the crux of the argument to unarguable obviousness. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 148 of 157
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    The iPhone has never been 4:3. Originally it was 3:2; it went to 16:9 with the iPhone 5. This is a horrendous aspect ratio for anything but a TV—it's much too narrow in portrait.

    Oh, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to the iPhone. Thanks for sorting me out, so you don't like 16:9 on the iPhone 5, why, looks the same as the iPhone 4s to me. Is it so bad that you'll stop buying iPhones?
  • Reply 149 of 157
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Nope. They are people who are too poor to afford an iPad, so they get a big phone as a compromise instead.

    Good reason, why buy both when you compromise with one. I had a Note 2, I liked surfing and watching movies on it. I see a lot of women with larger phones, funny enough, more so then men actually. Are we subconsciously saying something, hhhmmmmm. My sister has a Nokia 1520, now that is a friggen nutty big phone, 6".????
  • Reply 150 of 157
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Are all camera sensors still 60% as high as they are wide—i.e., 1 2/3:1? That's how they always used to be, even though the pictures from most cameras were 4:3. That means that 25% of the pixels on the sensor went unused—but they were included in the specs: so the actual value was 80% of the rated value.

    This may have changed in recent years, I don't know.

    Not exactly, as I understand it. The surrounding pixels get used for demosaicing, to determine key (black) and other reasons for not including them in the final output:

    http://www.dpreview.com/glossary/camera-system/effective-pixels

    No idea on the percentage though. http://www.123di.com is a good site for this kind of stuff.
    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 

    That would be a cool idea. Or at least, a warning; if a person is only going to watch that portrait video on their iPhone they might prefer that orientation, but streaming that portrait video to the big screen in the living is cringeworthy.
    I'd love some trickster to hack into YouTube and turn every video into Portrait Mode for a day. Imagine the comments...

    There's already enough criticism on the YT comments:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Google#YouTube_user_comments
  • Reply 151 of 157
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 

    How else are we supposed to take those candid shots of people going to the bathroom, sometimes you just don't think Tallest.????
  • Reply 152 of 157
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,322moderator
    relic wrote: »
    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 

    How else are we supposed to take those candid shots of people going to the bathroom, sometimes you just don't think Tallest.????

    Everything that can be seen in portrait can be seen in landscape with different framing. See bathroom scene here from Eyes Wide Shut filmed in widescreen (NSFW):

    http://yardsofgrapevine.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/eyes-wide-shut-toilet.jpg

    Portrait video works for Facetime because faces are taller than wide but that's the front camera. Everything shot on the rear camera can default to landscape with an option to force it portrait. Not only landscape but default to always vertical.


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    The results speak for themselves. Apple could do that at the sensor level. Perfectly square sensor have a circular crop and the widescreen frame just rotates round inside it. Add in HDR video and handheld smartphone footage will easily rival any handycam without using special stabilizing equipment.
  • Reply 153 of 157
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Marvin wrote: »
    The results speak for themselves. Apple could do that at the sensor level. Perfectly square sensor have a circular crop and the widescreen frame just rotates round inside it. Add in HDR video and handheld smartphone footage will easily rival any handycam without using special stabilizing equipment.

    That is one heck of a clever thing there Marvin.
  • Reply 154 of 157
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    iOS 8 should prevent users from recording video in portrait mode. 

    How else are we supposed to take those candid shots of people going to the bathroom, sometimes you just don't think Tallest.
    Marvin wrote: »
    Everything that can be seen in portrait can be seen in landscape with different framing. See bathroom scene here from Eyes Wide Shut filmed in widescreen (NSFW):

    http://yardsofgrapevine.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/eyes-wide-shut-toilet.jpg

    Portrait video works for Facetime because faces are taller than wide but that's the front camera. Everything shot on the rear camera can default to landscape with an option to force it portrait. Not only landscape but default to always vertical.



    The results speak for themselves. Apple could do that at the sensor level. Perfectly square sensor have a circular crop and the widescreen frame just rotates round inside it. Add in HDR video and handheld smartphone footage will easily rival any handycam without using special stabilizing equipment.

    I know I was just being silly, I'm with you and Tallest on this, I hate portrait shots too.
  • Reply 155 of 157
    clegercleger Posts: 17member
    If I'm not mistaken Apple said ios8 was coming this fall, their website says the same thing. Google the first day of fall and that falls on September 23. WHEN IN THE WORLD has Apple released iOS sooner than we have expected? Normally when they say coming this fall they mean like the last day of fall. Come on, really ios8 and new iphone 6 ahead of schedule?

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  • Reply 156 of 157
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by cleger View Post

    If I'm not mistaken Apple said ios8 was coming this fall, their website says the same thing. Google the first day of fall and that falls on September 23. 



    So the iPhone announced on the 9th and released on the 19th. Big deal. iOS 8 for the rest of the planet on the 26th.

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