Ex-Siri team working on new AI to answer questions that Apple's Siri already answers

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  • Reply 21 of 26
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
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    Originally Posted by cali View Post



    Apple bought Siri and the team left one by one to team up again and create a competitor... These guys are smart jerks. Apple should negotiate 5 year contracts with these companies. I think it's best to keep the founders around at least 3-5 years.

    Would be interesting if Apple buys viv or whatever it's called.



    Side thought: I've been thinking, can Apple buy IBM? Legally/financially/theoretically etc?Watson integration on Apple products and IBM integration for personal business and interprise would kick a**.

    Most likely Apple has some sort of non compete with them when the company was bought. As part of the buy out if they choose to leave the company they would not be allowed to make a competing product for some period of time. This is maybe why they are just now making the public aware they are at work again.

     

    They also have an issue of making sure they do not infringe on the IP that Apple now owns. They should know how to get around it but this is the reason you do not see many founders of a company who get bought out going out and doing it all over again. They have a hard time getting around their own patents especially if their patent lawyers were good and make it broad enough to allow them to sue anyone who attempts to make a competing product.

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  • Reply 22 of 26
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    I do know the the mere acceptance of government money forfeits your 100% ownership and you can not negotiate this away.  

    It is negotiated in the contract before any money changes hands or work begins (using that money).

    Also, not all work (necessarily) on a project is done using government money.

    Some of the work may be done with the company's own money and not charged to a contract.

     

    Look up the Bayh–Dole Act.

    and this -> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/35/part-II/chapter-18

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  • Reply 23 of 26
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    knowitall wrote: »
    Tried it with iOS8, and it doesn't answer the question about Lincoln.
    So Siri doesn't seem to improve. And I would be surprised if it did, because no real semantic interpretation is done, its hit and miss so to speak.
    (Another point is that Siri doesn't work without the internet and thats unacceptable if you look at the super computer performance of the 64bit A7.)

    Sorry, but that is an absolutely moronic comment about Siri needing an internet connection. So my iPhone or iPad is supposed to store all the database in the world to answer any question I throw at her? Get real.
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  • Reply 24 of 26
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    maestro64 wrote: »
    Most likely Apple has some sort of non compete with them when the company was bought. As part of the buy out if they choose to leave the company they would not be allowed to make a competing product for some period of time. This is maybe why they are just now making the public aware they are at work again.

    They also have an issue of making sure they do not infringe on the IP that Apple now owns. They should know how to get around it but this is the reason you do not see many founders of a company who get bought out going out and doing it all over again. They have a hard time getting around their own patents especially if their patent lawyers were good and make it broad enough to allow them to sue anyone who attempts to make a competing product.

    thanks.

    I still think there should have been like a 5 year contract for them to work at Apple. I think it's important to keep the founders to
    continue pushing their vision forward and guide the new company until the training wheels fall off.
    a good analogy would be a company firing the architect early on and having the construction workers figure out how to materialize the rest of the project.

    Interesting that they would reunite to develop
    another voice recognition service and you mention founders hardly ever doing that.
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  • Reply 25 of 26
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
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    Originally Posted by cali View Post





    thanks.



    I still think there should have been like a 5 year contract for them to work at Apple. I think it's important to keep the founders to

    continue pushing their vision forward and guide the new company until the training wheels fall off.

    a good analogy would be a company firing the architect early on and having the construction workers figure out how to materialize the rest of the project.



    Interesting that they would reunite to develop

    another voice recognition service and you mention founders hardly ever doing that.

    It has been my experience that reverse engineering software is far easier then do the same thing with hardware.  Any good software engineer can look at someone code and figure out what they are doing and why they did what they did. It is very easy to change and see the cause and effects. So these guys leaving Apple was not a big hit to developing the product further which is evident by Apple's continual improvement of the product. You never put expensive golden handcuff on a founder of a company unless you 100% sure you need them in the future.

     

    Hardware is a little different, I have seen where engineers put things into their design either on purpose of by accident or discovery which make the design work. Many time it is not documented and if you do not do exactly what they did then it may not work and it may not be evident why what they did made it work. I can not think of any right now but there are example in history of designs which work and it took modern day scientists and engineers years to figure why it happen to work.

     

    Do you want to buy a hardware company and let the founder walk only to find out no one around him has any idea why his design work the way they do.

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  • Reply 26 of 26
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    freerange wrote: »
    Sorry, but that is an absolutely moronic comment about Siri needing an internet connection. So my iPhone or iPad is supposed to store all the database in the world to answer any question I throw at her? Get real.

    Your own comment seems a bit moronic.
    Your iPhone and iPad is a huge database and has a lot capabilities all at Siri's command if she could understand you (that is without an internet).
    It might also be the case that you need Siri the most when your offline...
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