This situation with Quicken reminds me of QuarkXPress. Just because you have software that is the go-to-standard doesn't mean you can leave your base unsupported and expect them to remain loyal. Someone always comes in with a workable solution to fill the void. I switched to iBank years ago when they Quicken did not have an Intel version, and while they initially did not have everything I was looking for the later versions are great.
Hmm, and why would I ever buy Quicken, on any platform?
Mac version: missing very important features, no feature parity with Windows version, no file format compatibility with Windows version
Windows version: expensive annual updates that add no value, forced obsolescence of older versions so you are forced to buy said expensive annual updates
No thanks. I will have nothing to do with this product. (Now TurboTax, on the other hand ...)
If these screenshots look familiar there's a reason. Intuit bought Mint a while back (which is still free, and I rather like it for what it is). It looks like they just ported over a lot of Mint to a Mac app.
Wasn't Quicken Essentials supposed to be that though?
What would have been great is if Microsoft continued making MS Money, and ported that over to the Mac as well. MS Money had easily been the best Personal Finance software on either Mac or PC. Unfortunate that MS killed it.
Originally Posted by JasonX
You can safely get by using the Windows version for about three years. No reason to upgrade every year based on my personal experience.
(I am currently using Quicken 2013 with Wine on my Mac.)
That said, for a lot of people Mint.com might be adequate.
What did you switch to? This latest experience has left me wanting to be done with Intuit and their terrible support.
I'm using Quicken Essentials and thought about upgrading to this Quicken for Mac version. But after reading all these comments and learning about iBank 5, I think I'm going to iBank instead. 7 years... and they can't even give Mac users feature parity with Windows. I hate Adobe CC to death, but gotta give them credits for making Mac & PC versions working pretty much the same way on each platform.
I have to question the wisdom of including the year in the name of a product they're unlikely to upgrade for years.
Maybe they should have said it was Quicken 2019 instead. It is interesting though as now I wouldn't expect an update through at least 2015 from them.
If you want something very full-featured and Quicken-like, then I know that Moneydance and iBank are both good choices. I use Moneydance and have for years and am very happy with it. My understanding is that many people are very happy with iBank, although I found the UI to make my eyes bleed.
Besides its features (full online functionality, investment handling, strong reporting), some of the reasons I like Moneydance are:
(1) runs on Mac, Windows, and Linux, with full file-format compatibility (I use multiple OSes); there are also iOS and Android companion apps
(2) they never force you to upgrade (online services still work in all older versions)
(3) when you do decide to upgrade to get newly released features, they give you a discounted upgrade price (not in the Mac App Store version)
(4) they let you install it on as many PCs as you have for your personal use
(5) there's a full-featured free trial that is limited only in the number of manually-entered transactions (no limit on downloaded transactions)
(6) super-clean, uncluttered, customizable home screen
I don't work for them, by the way (sorry if this sounds too sales-pitchy). Just a very satisfied customer and a big participant in their online community.
jack mac wrote: »
If I can't import from earlier versions of Quicken I remain on my dedicated older computer with the earlier version of Quicken. I will not upgrade.
So, $75 to upgrade to a version with fewer features? Not trying to be snarky, just asking the question. Of course, I only use Quicken for the basics: keeping a register of income/expenses and tracking different categories. I probably wouldn't even use it if it hadn't come free with my Mac back in 2006 since there are plenty of other inexpensive personal finance software options out there.
it's a ridiculous price for an unproven 'upgrade' (?). I can foresee many previous users shying away from it for those reasons alone, and Intuit saying, "See, we were right. Mac users aren't interested in an upgrade."
I have been using Quicken for the mac since version 1, I have my entire financial history in Quicken. I do not disagree that Intuit abandon the Mac users and it is a surprise they even came out with this. When OSX 10.7 came out and quicken 07 would not work I was extremely happy they put out a release which address the issue. I would also agree there are a few window features what I wish the mac version had.
However, I will tell you and this is coming from someone who manages his entire portfolio of money through quicken, there is nothing out there which is better. I have looked at essentials, mint, ibank, MS Money and others and they are lacking, if you are doing basic banking like checking and saving, they are fine, but as soon as you get into online banking and investment of various types and managing loans they can not hold a candle to Quicken. Many times I looked at switching away only to stay once I saw the short comings of the other programs.
The biggest issue most people have with quicken is the fact you have to have good understand of accounting practices to make it useful. Especially when you transferring money from one account to another.
I am kind of surprise they pulled some features out. I do not really care about the budgeting function, use to use it all the time but today I do not have the time, I just run spend reports and see where the money is going and figure out what to do from there, does not matter what I would have budgeted. The loan schedule is nice to have been I found some issue with it so I use websites today. Quicken does not handle bi-monthly payment on loans real well. or the extra payment may once a year.