Purported 'iPhone 6' speaker assembly revealed by Chinese repair firm

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    lowepg wrote: »
    pigybank wrote: »
    Hey Apple! It's time for dual speakers, like the HTC one got almost 2 years ago now. Stop cutting corners, that is very un-Apple.

    Sooooo, duplicating another phones feature is more "Apple-like"!?

    Lol

    Explain the benefit of dual speakers?

    Maybe he wants to listen to music in s-t-e-r-e-o, putting his head in a equilateral triangle¡
  • Reply 22 of 27
    pigybankpigybank Posts: 178member

    Benefits of 2 speakers:

     

    • Louder overall volume (for those of us hard of hearing and who don't always want earbuds in)

    • Music in Stereo

    • Easier to avoid blocking sound with your hand while holding the phone

    • BECAUSE I WANT IT

     

    Also, dual speakers is a no brainer, and was a no brainer even bore the HTC One made it to market.  The fact that competitor

    beat Apple to market with a dual speaker phone is irrelevant.  Stereo speakers have been around for years and for audio listening

    are basically a standard so Apple wouldn't be "copying" anybody.  To say Apple shouldn't have dual speakers because it would be

    copying HTC would be like saying Mercedes shouldn't have seat belts because Volvo had them first.

  • Reply 23 of 27
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pigybank View Post

     

    Benefits of 2 speakers:

     

    • Louder overall volume (for those of us hard of hearing and who don't always want earbuds in)

     


     

    The loudness benefit of an additional speaker is pretty small, only 3 dB. That's roughly the amount of one click up or down on the iPhone volume control. While it may intuitively seem that two speakers should be twice as loud as one (a difference of 10 dB), the laws of physics don't work that way.

     

    Weigh that against the space requirements of adding another speaker into a really small device and the trade-off isn't worth it. You'd either have to make the phone bigger or use even smaller than the already way-too-small speaker you have now. In the latter case the result would be a device that sounds WORSE, not better.

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pigybank View Post

     

    • Music in Stereo


     

    If you can find a way to jam both your ears in between the two speakers on the iPhone, yes. If your body is larger than a toy action figure, no. Assuming both speakers are on the bottom of the device, they are so close together as to be perceived as a single point source by your auditory system. You will not get any perception of stereo.

     

    As another poster pointed out in another thread, you could put one speaker on the bottom and another on the top, and thus get a very small spacial sense, but you'd still have to deal with the speaker size issue mentioned above, which is a much greater detriment to the aural experience than listening in mono.

  • Reply 24 of 27
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    ^ post

    Thanks for setting the record straight!
  • Reply 25 of 27
    pigybankpigybank Posts: 178member
    The loudness benefit of an additional speaker is pretty small, only 3 dB. That's roughly the amount of one click up or down on the iPhone volume control. While it may intuitively seem that two speakers should be twice as loud as one (a difference of 10 dB), the laws of physics don't work that way.

    Weigh that against the space requirements of adding another speaker into a really small device and the trade-off isn't worth it. You'd either have to make the phone bigger or use even smaller than the already way-too-small speaker you have now. In the latter case the result would be a device that sounds WORSE, not better.


    If you can find a way to jam both your ears in between the two speakers on the iPhone, yes. If your body is larger than a toy action figure, no. Assuming both speakers are on the bottom of the device, they are so close together as to be perceived as a single point source by your auditory system. You will not get any perception of stereo.

    As another poster pointed out in another thread, you could put one speaker on the bottom and another on the top, and thus get a very small spacial sense, but you'd still have to deal with the speaker size issue mentioned above, which is a much greater detriment to the aural experience than listening in mono.

    So what you're saying is that HTC can manage a phone with dual speakers and louder sound without making the device noticeably larger or clunky but that Apple is simply incapable of such a feat?

    The HTC one is a sleek phone with a larger screen, louder sound, and 2 speakers... in stereo. The resulting device isn't excessively clunky, nor is the sound worse. It is better. Apple could EASILY accomplish this. In fact, I'm fairly certain they could far exceed HTC's implementation.

    Furthermore, you completely ignore my point that it would be easier to hold the device without your hand inadvertently covering the lone speaker.

    Lastly, as an Apple consumer and investor, I would like stereo speakers on the iPhone. I know what I want so trying to convince me I don't want it is pointless. You don't have to want the same things. It doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're wrong. It means we have different needs / wants as consumers.
  • Reply 26 of 27
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Wow. For someone not getting it, you sure aren't getting it. Not the point. Not Apple. Not the how and why. Please stick around. You'll stand out of the more informed.
  • Reply 27 of 27
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by pigybank View Post

    ...Apple is simply incapable of such a feat?



    No one, anywhere, has said this.

     

    ...in stereo.




    You say that as though the size of the device lends itself to the format.

     

    Furthermore, you completely ignore my point that it would be easier to hold the device without your hand inadvertently covering the lone speaker.


     

    So, honestly, just don’t hold it that way. Who covers the speaker? I hold mine with my pinky underneath, but it falls in the middle–on the port.

     

    ...as an Apple consumer and investor...


     

    That’s meaningless to your argument.

     

    I know what I want so trying to convince me I don't want it is pointless.


     

    Enjoy your faster horse, then. We’ll keep our cars.

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