My contract is over in October, so after the initial hoopla eases a bit, I'll probably wind up with a 64GB 6. The 6+ just seems too large. I guess, I can make the final call in the store.
Yeah I was sure it would be the 6 for me based on size, as 4.7-5.0 is my preferred size, but the native OIS, 1080 resolution, and better battery life make it a 6+ for me. The UI improvements in horizontal are an extra perk.
Having tried a mock-up I don't think I'd have a problem using a 6+. It is big but holding it to my ear I think it will be just fine. What would clinch it would be if it was slightly bendable for jeans back-pocketability. It will be too big for any other pocket though I have to admit that the 5s also is too big if I accidentally sit down, or crouch with it in either front or back pocket.
I am really interested in the role the 6+ will take on in terms of business. With some form of multi tasking ability and an added keyboard an awful lot of everyday work can be done quite efficiently on one of these beasts.
Going back and forth between the 6 and 6+, which surprises me - I had already said a 5.5 inch phone is too much. Now I'm wavering.
Same here. I was dead set on getting the 4.7" model, but I'm drawn to the better battery life and OIS. Guess I'll be going with the Plus. I may end up selling my iPad mini Retina as well, as that will become somewhat redundant.
Yeah I was sure it would be the 6 for me based on size, as 4.7-5.0 is my preferred size, but the native OIS, 1080 resolution, and better battery life make it a 6+ for me. The UI improvements in horizontal are an extra perk.
Not to mention, personally I've wanted an iPad mini for awhile but was waiting to see what the upgraded mini would look like...the iPhone 6+ pretty much negates my need for the Mini.
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Originally Posted by DocNo42
Make a mock up. Two pieces from the average cardboard shipping box (like those ubiquitous boxes I get from Amazon) match the thickness pretty closely, and if you have a ruler and some scissors you can cut out two rectangles that match the dimensions provided.
I'm glad I did - once I had it and put it in my pocket I discovered it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Part of my dislike for the larger form factor was a work provided Android phone (Motorola something or other) - but that phone is THREE TIMES THICKER than the 6 Plus. That makes a huge difference...
I used a Nexus 5 for a bit, and that was "only" 5 inches. But it was also rather bulky/thick, I'm sure the 6+ is going to be easier to use. Plus the "reachability" aspect changes things, I'm sure.
Same here. I was dead set on getting the 4.7" model, but I'm drawn to the better battery life and OIS. Guess I'll be going with the Plus. I may end up selling my iPad mini Retina as well, as that will become somewhat redundant.
Yes! See my comment above, I've been waiting on the updated Mini, but a 5.5 would negate that "need" for me to get the Mini. Very tempting.
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I really don't.
There's a guy with a Galaxy 5 which he bought to replace his iPhone, even though he prefers the iPhone because he needs glasses to see his 4" iPhone screen, takes a lot of digital notes, and needs more space than the screen allows. In fact I was jealous of the stylus input for jotting down quick notes -- with all due respect to Steve Jobs, the finger may be the best pointing device we have, but it is not the best stylus. But that works for him and his job. I have no desire to carry around something so big myself. I'm happy with the compromises between size and function as it stands. I miss the compactness of the 4s, but the 5s is acceptable.
When I do have a problem with people who want to carry it around, it's usually because of the scenario where my girlfriend and I go out and because her purse is too small, and she has no pockets large enough to hold it, she expects me to carry her Galaxy Note 4. I had no problem carrying my ex-girlfriend's iPhone 4, as it slipped easily into my jeans along with mine. Other than that, I have no problems with anyone else carrying one, as long as I don't have to deal with it.
I will say again, the ONLY problem I have is with Apple forcing me to be one of these phablet-toting consumers, that seems to go against their very design philosophy, in order to have the latest technology. I mean, they could have introduced these larger phones with the 3G, but for 5 years, there was no need and it didn't seem to impact Apple's business in the least. Now suddenly, the smaller form factor was a mistake? That's what the iPhone 6 says to me. And no, I'm not going to go back to wearing a watch just so I can use some of the latest technology with a smaller phone. It's insulting to me.
Seeing the iPad mini in comparison, there's really no reason not to put a phone in it.
I have no problem with Apple catering to people who want to carry something like this around. But short-changing those of us who don't want to carry a tablet around in our pockets is just cruel. I'd like an iPhone 6, but the reality is it doesn't offer much over the 5 aside from screen size, better camera and faster processor. It does offer NFC, but Apple Pay is not likely to make a major impact until the iPhone 6S arrives, at which time Apple will hopefully come to their senses and offer an iPhone 6 mini to replace the 5s.
Not holding my breath, as the 4s form factor was quickly phased out, and I'd prefer it even over the 5.
Oh well, time to buy 5s ... I'm a little concerned I won't be able to get the deal I had hoped for since they will be in such demand by those who don't subscribe to this phablet trend.
Not that it matters, but I have to wonder what Steve Jobs would have said about the 6 series ...
The supply of 5s should be better in the next 3 weeks. That's when people will start trading up.
One thing that I have not seen given much attention: Display Zoom
There is literally a feature that lets you decide if you want more real estate/smaller UI...or scale up the entire UI to be larger!!! All this time wondering which they would do and the answer is both!
I wouldn't presume to guess what Steve would say. Besides, he was notoriously fickle with respect to many of his "proclamations". He might very well have said "move on", and he might have said, 'the original iPhone dimensions were the best, and Apple will continue to offer that alongside everything else'. Who knows. I can still wonder. The fact is, the Plus is designed to compete with Samsung, and their "reachable" solution in particular is not only kludgy, but completely polar opposite to their heretofore sacrosanct design principals, and only there because they are trying to compete with another company's product. This isn't what I have come to expect from Apple. Thus it would be interesting to see if Steve would have maintained his guns or flip-flopped. But neither you nor I can speak for him, so let's not.
Whoa there cowboy. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't want one? Don't buy one.
Let's see. In order to continue using their services, on which I have become dependent, I must upgrade to their current product, or transition my needs to another platform. Hmmm. How about coercing? Either way, Apple is FORCING me to make a decision, if NOTHING else, by taking away my options. So there you go. We can parse semantics all day. Bottom line is, in order to continue using the Apple ecosystem of products and services, I must adapt to their current offerings whether I like them or not. The only other choice, is switching my platform entirely to Android, or Windows, etc. Nevertheless it is a choice I did not have to make Monday and one I am forced into by Apple's choices. You want me to accept responsibility for my preferences? Sure. But "don't buy one" is a lazy and simplistic answer, and a sad excuse for customer service.
The supply of 5s should be better in the next 3 weeks. That's when people will start trading up.
Typically speaking. However, my point is more to the fact that there might not be as big a rush for the larger phones as anticipated. Anecdotally, I know many people who don't want a bigger phone. Given that the 6, aside from the NFC antenna is mostly a performance boost in a much larger size, there might still be a significant demand for the 5s, especially at the lower price point. Then again, Samsung may have anticipated the consumer trend much more accurately than Apple (who'd a thunk it?), and the 6 Plus may be the biggest Apple seller of all time. Either way, I'll reserve judgement until I get the 6 in my hands. But having had the 5s in my hands, I was even dreading upgrading to it ue to the increase in size.
I'm optimistic that Apple will get some good data from this experiment with the 6 series, and we'll see a 4" inch screen return next year to round out the 6 lineup.
But I'm coming from a 4S and already thought the iPhone 5 was a bit larger than I wanted. Perhaps I am now in the minority, but I like the 3.5" size and am annoyed that one handed operation is now all but killed off without using special gestures etc.
Sorry to say this, but the market for that is "small", as in 3-4 inch, seems a lot smaller then mid or large at there 4-5 and 5-6 inch aspects.
In order to continue using their services, on which I have become dependent
It's Apple's fault for decisions you make? That's lame.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
I must upgrade to their current product, or transition my needs to another platform.
You MUST upgrade? Your current iPhone still works perfectly. If you don't want to upgrade, don't.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
Hmmm. How about coercing?
COERCING?! That's lame.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
Either way, Apple is FORCING me to make a decision, if NOTHING else, by taking away my options. So there you go.
No, they're not. Your current iPhone still works perfectly. If it doesn't, buy one of the current models which - by the way - just became more affordable. There is no law saying you need the newest iPhone. There isn't even a law saying you need to own a smartphone at all.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
Bottom line is, in order to continue using the Apple ecosystem of products and services, I must adapt to their current offerings whether I like them or not. The only other choice, is switching my platform entirely to Android, or Windows, etc. Nevertheless it is a choice I did not have to make Monday and one I am forced into by Apple's choices. You want me to accept responsibility for my preferences? Sure. But "don't buy one" is a lazy and simplistic answer, and a sad excuse for customer service.
No. Don't buy one is the correct answer. It's your money. If you don't like a product, don't buy it. I used to be a PC guy a long long time ago (early 90s). I wasn't happy with the direction the platform was going. I switched. Oh, sure, I could have cried "Oh boo hoo. They're forcing me to go with Windows" but I'd have been wrong then just as you are wrong now. Apple cannot force you to spend money. If you choose to buy a new iPhone, that's a decision you make. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
The lazy response is to blame someone else for your lack of ability to do something about your unhappiness. Switch platforms. And if you can't find a platform that pleases you, remember: there's no law requiring you to own a smartphone.
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I know it's odd but I actually use mine as a regular phone!
My contract is over in October, so after the initial hoopla eases a bit, I'll probably wind up with a 64GB 6. The 6+ just seems too large. I guess, I can make the final call in the store.
What's even more odd? That it can be a phone and other things as well - and the phone still works! Shocking!
Yeah I was sure it would be the 6 for me based on size, as 4.7-5.0 is my preferred size, but the native OIS, 1080 resolution, and better battery life make it a 6+ for me. The UI improvements in horizontal are an extra perk.
Having tried a mock-up I don't think I'd have a problem using a 6+. It is big but holding it to my ear I think it will be just fine. What would clinch it would be if it was slightly bendable for jeans back-pocketability. It will be too big for any other pocket though I have to admit that the 5s also is too big if I accidentally sit down, or crouch with it in either front or back pocket.
I am really interested in the role the 6+ will take on in terms of business. With some form of multi tasking ability and an added keyboard an awful lot of everyday work can be done quite efficiently on one of these beasts.
Going back and forth between the 6 and 6+, which surprises me - I had already said a 5.5 inch phone is too much. Now I'm wavering.
Same here. I was dead set on getting the 4.7" model, but I'm drawn to the better battery life and OIS. Guess I'll be going with the Plus. I may end up selling my iPad mini Retina as well, as that will become somewhat redundant.
Same here
Not to mention, personally I've wanted an iPad mini for awhile but was waiting to see what the upgraded mini would look like...the iPhone 6+ pretty much negates my need for the Mini.
Make a mock up. Two pieces from the average cardboard shipping box (like those ubiquitous boxes I get from Amazon) match the thickness pretty closely, and if you have a ruler and some scissors you can cut out two rectangles that match the dimensions provided.
I'm glad I did - once I had it and put it in my pocket I discovered it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Part of my dislike for the larger form factor was a work provided Android phone (Motorola something or other) - but that phone is THREE TIMES THICKER than the 6 Plus. That makes a huge difference...
I used a Nexus 5 for a bit, and that was "only" 5 inches. But it was also rather bulky/thick, I'm sure the 6+ is going to be easier to use. Plus the "reachability" aspect changes things, I'm sure.
Just try one out in a store. You’ll come around.
I'm itching to pre-order, though...
Same here. I was dead set on getting the 4.7" model, but I'm drawn to the better battery life and OIS. Guess I'll be going with the Plus. I may end up selling my iPad mini Retina as well, as that will become somewhat redundant.
Yes! See my comment above, I've been waiting on the updated Mini, but a 5.5 would negate that "need" for me to get the Mini. Very tempting.
You just have a problem with the people who want to carry it around.
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I really don't.
There's a guy with a Galaxy 5 which he bought to replace his iPhone, even though he prefers the iPhone because he needs glasses to see his 4" iPhone screen, takes a lot of digital notes, and needs more space than the screen allows. In fact I was jealous of the stylus input for jotting down quick notes -- with all due respect to Steve Jobs, the finger may be the best pointing device we have, but it is not the best stylus. But that works for him and his job. I have no desire to carry around something so big myself. I'm happy with the compromises between size and function as it stands. I miss the compactness of the 4s, but the 5s is acceptable.
When I do have a problem with people who want to carry it around, it's usually because of the scenario where my girlfriend and I go out and because her purse is too small, and she has no pockets large enough to hold it, she expects me to carry her Galaxy Note 4. I had no problem carrying my ex-girlfriend's iPhone 4, as it slipped easily into my jeans along with mine. Other than that, I have no problems with anyone else carrying one, as long as I don't have to deal with it.
I will say again, the ONLY problem I have is with Apple forcing me to be one of these phablet-toting consumers, that seems to go against their very design philosophy, in order to have the latest technology. I mean, they could have introduced these larger phones with the 3G, but for 5 years, there was no need and it didn't seem to impact Apple's business in the least. Now suddenly, the smaller form factor was a mistake? That's what the iPhone 6 says to me. And no, I'm not going to go back to wearing a watch just so I can use some of the latest technology with a smaller phone. It's insulting to me.
I will say again, the ONLY problem I have is with Apple forcing me to be one of these phablet-toting consumers
Whoa there cowboy. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't want one? Don't buy one.
The supply of 5s should be better in the next 3 weeks. That's when people will start trading up.
Whoa there cowboy. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't want one? Don't buy one.
Yeah, this has never, ever been an argument.
There is literally a feature that lets you decide if you want more real estate/smaller UI...or scale up the entire UI to be larger!!! All this time wondering which they would do and the answer is both!
Steve would of said time to move on
I wouldn't presume to guess what Steve would say. Besides, he was notoriously fickle with respect to many of his "proclamations". He might very well have said "move on", and he might have said, 'the original iPhone dimensions were the best, and Apple will continue to offer that alongside everything else'. Who knows. I can still wonder. The fact is, the Plus is designed to compete with Samsung, and their "reachable" solution in particular is not only kludgy, but completely polar opposite to their heretofore sacrosanct design principals, and only there because they are trying to compete with another company's product. This isn't what I have come to expect from Apple. Thus it would be interesting to see if Steve would have maintained his guns or flip-flopped. But neither you nor I can speak for him, so let's not.
Whoa there cowboy. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Don't want one? Don't buy one.
Let's see. In order to continue using their services, on which I have become dependent, I must upgrade to their current product, or transition my needs to another platform. Hmmm. How about coercing? Either way, Apple is FORCING me to make a decision, if NOTHING else, by taking away my options. So there you go. We can parse semantics all day. Bottom line is, in order to continue using the Apple ecosystem of products and services, I must adapt to their current offerings whether I like them or not. The only other choice, is switching my platform entirely to Android, or Windows, etc. Nevertheless it is a choice I did not have to make Monday and one I am forced into by Apple's choices. You want me to accept responsibility for my preferences? Sure. But "don't buy one" is a lazy and simplistic answer, and a sad excuse for customer service.
The supply of 5s should be better in the next 3 weeks. That's when people will start trading up.
Typically speaking. However, my point is more to the fact that there might not be as big a rush for the larger phones as anticipated. Anecdotally, I know many people who don't want a bigger phone. Given that the 6, aside from the NFC antenna is mostly a performance boost in a much larger size, there might still be a significant demand for the 5s, especially at the lower price point. Then again, Samsung may have anticipated the consumer trend much more accurately than Apple (who'd a thunk it?), and the 6 Plus may be the biggest Apple seller of all time. Either way, I'll reserve judgement until I get the 6 in my hands. But having had the 5s in my hands, I was even dreading upgrading to it ue to the increase in size.
I'm optimistic that Apple will get some good data from this experiment with the 6 series, and we'll see a 4" inch screen return next year to round out the 6 lineup.
In order to continue using their services, on which I have become dependent
It's Apple's fault for decisions you make? That's lame.
I must upgrade to their current product, or transition my needs to another platform.
You MUST upgrade? Your current iPhone still works perfectly. If you don't want to upgrade, don't.
Hmmm. How about coercing?
COERCING?! That's lame.
Either way, Apple is FORCING me to make a decision, if NOTHING else, by taking away my options. So there you go.
No, they're not. Your current iPhone still works perfectly. If it doesn't, buy one of the current models which - by the way - just became more affordable. There is no law saying you need the newest iPhone. There isn't even a law saying you need to own a smartphone at all.
Bottom line is, in order to continue using the Apple ecosystem of products and services, I must adapt to their current offerings whether I like them or not. The only other choice, is switching my platform entirely to Android, or Windows, etc. Nevertheless it is a choice I did not have to make Monday and one I am forced into by Apple's choices. You want me to accept responsibility for my preferences? Sure. But "don't buy one" is a lazy and simplistic answer, and a sad excuse for customer service.
No. Don't buy one is the correct answer. It's your money. If you don't like a product, don't buy it. I used to be a PC guy a long long time ago (early 90s). I wasn't happy with the direction the platform was going. I switched. Oh, sure, I could have cried "Oh boo hoo. They're forcing me to go with Windows" but I'd have been wrong then just as you are wrong now. Apple cannot force you to spend money. If you choose to buy a new iPhone, that's a decision you make. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
The lazy response is to blame someone else for your lack of ability to do something about your unhappiness. Switch platforms. And if you can't find a platform that pleases you, remember: there's no law requiring you to own a smartphone.