Just because you have a girly wrist doesn't mean that watch is too big.
Did you just really just try to insult anyone who has thin bone structure? What do you consider "manly"? Does it take a real man to look at smaller people and call them girly? What about many Asian men? Do you consider them girly because of their physical size?
Did you just really just try to insult anyone who has thin bone structure? What do you consider "manly"? Does it take a real man to look at smaller people and call them girly? What about many Asian men? Do you consider them girly because of their physical size?
Yes, I insulted HIM because he's just being silly. I wear slim watches because I have medium build for an asian guy and the slim ones are more comfortable than the larger watches. These are still in the 38-40 mm range and 7-10 mm thickness. Pretending that 5mm is a common thickness for men's watches is silly. Not even in Vietnam (5' 5" average) are the men watches that small and slim.
In any case, asian guys are not all small. The average height in Beijing is 5' 9". South Korea is 5' 8.5". Who's stereotyping here? I'm average size if I were in Korea and below in Beijing.
The guy in the picture has normal to somewhat thin male wrists. He was not Arnold Bodybuilder with massive wrists. The watch is proportional. For the 38mm to be oversized you need to have thin wrists. For a girl.
There are women's watches that are the same or bigger than the 38mm apple watch.
And frankly the trend has been toward larger watches among all of the luxury brands. 40-42 mm is a common size now for men in comparison to vintage watches in the 36-38mm range.
Until battery life is significantly increased (most likely, once solar-powered methods become more feasible to implement in a cost effective manner), I don't, IMO, see the Apple Watch as a new standard for time-keeping.
The concept is excellent, but the technology isn't there to deliver the function that the concept demands (well, it is, but not profitably). This is different from the original releases of the iPod, iPhone or iPad, all of which each revolutionized their respective markets (or redefined the market itself).
When it comes to Apple Watch, the power issue is the company's biggest obstacle. Once refined, then the device will make some serious waves.
The problem is that when the first iPad came out, it was amazing; it looked superb, sleek and fresh. The problem with the Apple Watch is that it already looks clunky and dated.
When it comes in round with a white face, magnificent battery life, is independent of the iPhone and is as thin as a regular watch, then it might be worth buying.
I seem to remember people moaning about the thick bezel and that it was the wrong shape for viewing movies.
It is only after numerous failed attempts by copiest companies to make something 'better' that you recognise the "superb, sleek and fresh design" in retrospect.
Remembers me of the fancy month names in the French revolution's calendar. For Winter it was (translated): Rain-dom, Snow-dom, Wind-dom.
Rainember, Snowember, Windember and Frostember. That’d be fine.
Thanks for the vote of approval!
I’ll put it to Greenwich and hope to get it ratified for next year. I've decided that it will come after December, so that Christmas may take part in it.
The problem is that when the first iPad came out, it was amazing; it looked superb, sleek and fresh. The problem with the Apple Watch is that it already looks clunky and dated.
When it comes in round with a white face, magnificent battery life, is independent of the iPhone and is as thin as a regular watch, then it might be worth buying.
I seem to remember people moaning about the thick bezel and that it was the wrong shape for viewing movies.
It is only after numerous failed attempts by copiest companies to make something 'better' that you recognise the "superb, sleek and fresh design" in retrospect.
I thought those positive things when Jobs introduced the iPad—honest! I received it in the post a day early.
I’ll put it to Greenwich and hope to get it ratified for next year. I've decided that it will come after December, so that Christmas may take part in it.
Great! Keep me posted! I may write an app’ to translate from the current to the new calendar.
I’ll put it to Greenwich and hope to get it ratified for next year. I've decided that it will come after December, so that Christmas may take part in it.
Great! Keep me posted! I may write an app’ to translate from the current to the new calendar.
It's an honour to have my legacy remembered for eternity.
I would like to thank my partners Dec and Jan for their cooperation in this matter.
Meanwhile, we can all look forward to Frostember the first.
Great! Keep me posted! I may write an app’ to translate from the current to the new calendar.
Seriously, a 13-month calendar would make an excellent app, tied to visual maps of the solar system and the earth, moon, and sun. This would be using the vast potential of the computer watch like the platform wants to be used.
For month names, maybe offer lists of the ways they've been named in the past. I'm guessing that the Greeks adopted their month names from the Pelasgians who were there before the Greeks arrived, barbarian nomad invaders that they were. I remember only one Greek month name, had the root "anther" in it, month of flowers, in spring, equivalent to May perhaps. It was the month when the women went to the mountains to revel with Dionysus, I believe.
What were the names of the Pelasgian months? Research project. They were likely to be related to Egyptian names, since we suspect that the Mediterranean people originated in N. Africa. Martin Bernal's third volume of "Black Athena" might be very interesting on this topic. I haven't seen it, since it's still expensive.
If only you Britons had been a little less hotheaded about your great power status when it came time to standardize longitude in the 1880s, we could have had a prime meridian that circled the globe in the back without cutting off the Chukotka peninsula. Move it just a bit further east (oh, say, roundabout Paris) and the PM slips through the Bering Straight quite nicely with nothing on Earth for it to bisect until we hit Antarctica, and everyone knows that the Penguin Empire has been shunned by the international community since their failed attempt at conquest of the higher latitudes.
“But if the US had been preeminent then, the prime meridian would have run through Washington D.C….”
DARN RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE, and I wouldn’t have cared less about Asia being split in two at the back of the map, either. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
If only you Britons had been a little less hotheaded about your great power status when it came time to standardize longitude in the 1880s, we could have had a prime meridian that circled the globe in the back without cutting off the Chukotka peninsula. Move it just a bit further east (oh, say, roundabout Paris) and the PM slips through the Bering Straight quite nicely with nothing on Earth for it to bisect until we hit Antarctica, and everyone knows that the Penguin Empire has been shunned by the international community since their failed attempt at conquest of the higher latitudes.
“But if the US had been preeminent then, the prime meridian would have run through Washington D.C….”
DARN RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE, and I wouldn’t have cared less about Asia being split in two at the back of the map, either. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
The Paris' meridian exists, it has been computed by Arago back in the days of the French revolution, when a commission was set up to define the meter. It was the official system in use in France until… well, not so far ago (1993), when it was superseded by a new datum compatible with GPS and the GRS 80 ellipsoid. This old meridian has recently been revived through the ‘Green meridian’ project, an initiative aiming at planting trees all along the Paris' meridian in France, from Dunkerque to some place south.
It never occurred to me that a Paris meridian would “cut straight” through the Bering Strait without encroaching on any land, though. But remember that, at the time the Greenwich meridian was established, Alaska was still a Russian territory. Or wasn’t it?
But remember that, at the time the Greenwich meridian was established, Alaska was still a Russian territory. Or wasn’t it?
The Alaska Purchase was 1867 and the prime meridian was set in 1884. Not that the British/French and Russians cared enough for each other to see a problem in splitting an empire.
Seriously, a 13-month calendar would make an excellent app, tied to visual maps of the solar system and the earth, moon, and sun. This would be using the vast potential of the computer watch like the platform wants to be used.
For month names, maybe offer lists of the ways they've been named in the past. I'm guessing that the Greeks adopted their month names from the Pelasgians who were there before the Greeks arrived, barbarian nomad invaders that they were. I remember only one Greek month name, had the root "anther" in it, month of flowers, in spring, equivalent to May perhaps. It was the month when the women went to the mountains to revel with Dionysus, I believe.
What were the names of the Pelasgian months? Research project. They were likely to be related to Egyptian names, since we suspect that the Mediterranean people originated in N. Africa. Martin Bernal's third volume of "Black Athena" might be very interesting on this topic. I haven't seen it, since it's still expensive.
I would have to write it lickety-split, because I'm going to chuck my iOS developer program. It’s becoming an increasing pain to deal with all those screens of different sizes.
We know very few about the indigenous languages that were spoken in Greece before the Greeks (Mycenian) invaded the area (maybe Linear A holds a clue to this riddle, but it is yet undeciphered). The Greek language is infected by non Indo-European words, as evidenced, e.g., by words such as ‘doulos’ for ‘slave’ or ‘basileos’ for ‘king’ that bear no relation whatsoever to the other languages in the group. Etruscan could also be a candidate, but Etruscan is as mysterious as Linear A, and the only dictionary we know of, written by imperator Claudius (whose wife was Etruscan), has been lost. Mediterranean is a vast mosaic of sundry folks with hardly any common origin, even back in pre-historic times. However, month names, like our alphabet, have a great chance of having evolved from a single source through cultural exchanges, so it is not such an asinine hypothesis to hold that the Greek month names are somehow reflections of the original names given by whoever invented them. That does not guarantee any phonetic semblance however; the best example of this would be the duo “apricot / precocious”, both deriving from latin praecox, but the former through a rather zany evolution.
[B]@EauVive[/B], so wouldn't developing for ?Watch be like a relief from resolution madness?
What you were saying about the agriculture civilizations going solar: True, and that's the point where humans go wrong, when they estrange themselves from the dewy romance with the moon, mistress of the eau vive, the living water. Going solar means adopting a solar god-father, an obscene goat-skinned war, mountain and storm god, an insult to women and poets. That's the sky-father (Dyaus-Pitar, Jupiter, Zeus, Jove, Yahweh) under whom we've been striving and killing ourselves for 5,000 years.
The ?Watch, properly programmed, could put us back in the embrace of Selene, Diana, Isis, where we can recover our manhood as avatars of Dionysus, Tammuz, Adonis. Or Jason, the healer ("IA"—drug, physician) in search of the "golden fleece," the [I]tue-mouche[/I] that gives us immunity to the Lord of the Flies.
You're right, Linear A would help, but we could do as the trouvères did, and not worry about the details as we make the new songs to change the world. You and Tallest Skil could work out a personal meridian for anyone on Earth.
Has anyone seen this in sunlight? How bright is the display? Will you have to shade the watch in order to see the time outside? Is the watch dial lit all the time? Or do you have to press a button to see anything on the display?
@EauVive, so wouldn't developing for iWatch (where's the Apple symbol on the iOS keyboard?) be like a relief from resolution madness?
The Watch, properly programmed, could put us back in the embrace of Selene, Diana, Isis, where we can recover our manhood as avatars of Dionysus, Tammuz, Adonis. Or Jason, the healer ("IA"—drug, physician) in search of the "golden fleece," the tue-mouche that gives us immunity to the Lord of the Flies.
I’m sure there will be a ?Watch retina. (Or not…) Yep, you’re right. That does not explain why for the German the Sun was female and the Moon male, though.
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You and Tallest Skil could work out a personal meridian for anyone on Earth.
I am much too modest to get involved in a work that would put me under the limelight. I work behind the scenes, and am happy about it. “I’m a Vulcan, I have no ego to bruise.”
I think this is a product that exemplifies what makes Apple unique in the market - an amazing integration of hardware, software, and user experience. Is the hardware bigger and less radically amazing that we dreamed about in our PhotoShop-augmented-reality dreams? Absolutely. Problem is this little thing called physics and material science and state of the art in component and manufacturing technology. Just like the original iPad1 (which I still have a use on occasion) the then state of the art in technology that could be built affordable at huge scale placed hard limits of what Apple could do to deliver at a hardware level. The original iPad was kind of thick and heavy by todays standards, but by the standards of the day in tablets (like the Windows Tablet Edition monstrosities) the iPad1 was amazing at all levels. Additionally the amazing integration of HW+SW+UX in the iPad1 defined a product category that has withstood the test of time, exactly as the iPhone had done years earlier. The things that will establish the Apple Watch as the next category defining product will depend heavily on the SW+UX that Apple is able to deliver in an unique way on a HW platform they have optimized for their product and its users.
You could argue that this is an apologist's perspective - and to the degree that walking on water and perpetual motion machines are benchmarks you'd be correct. But as a Version 1.0 product that must demonstrate huge and attainable potential for growth the current Apple Watch is the best we've seen so far because of the things Apple does very well. The utility is obvious, so the next challenge is to deliver battery life that will attract mainstream Apple customers.
So nothing has really changed between what Apple is able to accomplish over its competitors. Competitors who don't have total control over the essential building blocks for envisioning, creating, and manufacturing high precision, world class, non-commodity products that are surrounded by a vast ecosystem of life enriching media and services will continue to struggle against Apple.
The Apple Watch is all about creating another value delivery mechanism for the ever growing Apple media and services ecosystem.
Been catching up on the posts here, and felt the need to say, "Great post" and truly deserves a quoted reply in it's entirety.
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Just because you have a girly wrist doesn't mean that watch is too big.
Did you just really just try to insult anyone who has thin bone structure? What do you consider "manly"? Does it take a real man to look at smaller people and call them girly? What about many Asian men? Do you consider them girly because of their physical size?
I think it's Punches by Ray Rice...
Yes, I insulted HIM because he's just being silly. I wear slim watches because I have medium build for an asian guy and the slim ones are more comfortable than the larger watches. These are still in the 38-40 mm range and 7-10 mm thickness. Pretending that 5mm is a common thickness for men's watches is silly. Not even in Vietnam (5' 5" average) are the men watches that small and slim.
In any case, asian guys are not all small. The average height in Beijing is 5' 9". South Korea is 5' 8.5". Who's stereotyping here? I'm average size if I were in Korea and below in Beijing.
The guy in the picture has normal to somewhat thin male wrists. He was not Arnold Bodybuilder with massive wrists. The watch is proportional. For the 38mm to be oversized you need to have thin wrists. For a girl.
There are women's watches that are the same or bigger than the 38mm apple watch.
http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Kors-Quartz-Goldtone-Bracelet/dp/B002IVTFFA/ref=lp_6358543011_1_6?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410409485&sr=1-6
38mm face, 14 mm thick
http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-Womens-Angel-Diamond-Accented-Stainless/dp/B001QFZWW4/ref=lp_6358543011_1_13?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410409485&sr=1-13
33mm face, 12 mm thick
http://www.amazon.com/Versace-Womens-VLB100014-Ion-Plated-Watch/dp/B00KACLIY0/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410409898&sr=1-1
38 mm face, 11 mm thick
http://www.amazon.com/Louis-Erard-Emotion-Womens-Automatic-Self-Wind/dp/B005MVGL0K/ref=sr_1_11?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410410045&sr=1-11
40mm face, 9.5 mm thick
And frankly the trend has been toward larger watches among all of the luxury brands. 40-42 mm is a common size now for men in comparison to vintage watches in the 36-38mm range.
Until battery life is significantly increased (most likely, once solar-powered methods become more feasible to implement in a cost effective manner), I don't, IMO, see the Apple Watch as a new standard for time-keeping.
The concept is excellent, but the technology isn't there to deliver the function that the concept demands (well, it is, but not profitably). This is different from the original releases of the iPod, iPhone or iPad, all of which each revolutionized their respective markets (or redefined the market itself).
When it comes to Apple Watch, the power issue is the company's biggest obstacle. Once refined, then the device will make some serious waves.
I seem to remember people moaning about the thick bezel and that it was the wrong shape for viewing movies.
It is only after numerous failed attempts by copiest companies to make something 'better' that you recognise the "superb, sleek and fresh design" in retrospect.
Frostember.
Remembers me of the fancy month names in the French revolution's calendar. For Winter it was (translated): Rain-dom, Snow-dom, Wind-dom.
Rainember, Snowember, Windember and Frostember. That’d be fine.
Thanks for the vote of approval!
I’ll put it to Greenwich and hope to get it ratified for next year. I've decided that it will come after December, so that Christmas may take part in it.
I thought those positive things when Jobs introduced the iPad—honest! I received it in the post a day early.
Thanks for the vote of approval!
I’ll put it to Greenwich and hope to get it ratified for next year. I've decided that it will come after December, so that Christmas may take part in it.
Great! Keep me posted! I may write an app’ to translate from the current to the new calendar.
It's an honour to have my legacy remembered for eternity.
I would like to thank my partners Dec and Jan for their cooperation in this matter.
Meanwhile, we can all look forward to Frostember the first.
Seriously, a 13-month calendar would make an excellent app, tied to visual maps of the solar system and the earth, moon, and sun. This would be using the vast potential of the computer watch like the platform wants to be used.
For month names, maybe offer lists of the ways they've been named in the past. I'm guessing that the Greeks adopted their month names from the Pelasgians who were there before the Greeks arrived, barbarian nomad invaders that they were. I remember only one Greek month name, had the root "anther" in it, month of flowers, in spring, equivalent to May perhaps. It was the month when the women went to the mountains to revel with Dionysus, I believe.
What were the names of the Pelasgian months? Research project. They were likely to be related to Egyptian names, since we suspect that the Mediterranean people originated in N. Africa. Martin Bernal's third volume of "Black Athena" might be very interesting on this topic. I haven't seen it, since it's still expensive.
If only you Britons had been a little less hotheaded about your great power status when it came time to standardize longitude in the 1880s, we could have had a prime meridian that circled the globe in the back without cutting off the Chukotka peninsula. Move it just a bit further east (oh, say, roundabout Paris) and the PM slips through the Bering Straight quite nicely with nothing on Earth for it to bisect until we hit Antarctica, and everyone knows that the Penguin Empire has been shunned by the international community since their failed attempt at conquest of the higher latitudes.
“But if the US had been preeminent then, the prime meridian would have run through Washington D.C….”
DARN RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE, and I wouldn’t have cared less about Asia being split in two at the back of the map, either.
If only you Britons had been a little less hotheaded about your great power status when it came time to standardize longitude in the 1880s, we could have had a prime meridian that circled the globe in the back without cutting off the Chukotka peninsula. Move it just a bit further east (oh, say, roundabout Paris) and the PM slips through the Bering Straight quite nicely with nothing on Earth for it to bisect until we hit Antarctica, and everyone knows that the Penguin Empire has been shunned by the international community since their failed attempt at conquest of the higher latitudes.
“But if the US had been preeminent then, the prime meridian would have run through Washington D.C….”
DARN RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE, and I wouldn’t have cared less about Asia being split in two at the back of the map, either.
The Paris' meridian exists, it has been computed by Arago back in the days of the French revolution, when a commission was set up to define the meter. It was the official system in use in France until… well, not so far ago (1993), when it was superseded by a new datum compatible with GPS and the GRS 80 ellipsoid. This old meridian has recently been revived through the ‘Green meridian’ project, an initiative aiming at planting trees all along the Paris' meridian in France, from Dunkerque to some place south.
It never occurred to me that a Paris meridian would “cut straight” through the Bering Strait without encroaching on any land, though. But remember that, at the time the Greenwich meridian was established, Alaska was still a Russian territory. Or wasn’t it?
But remember that, at the time the Greenwich meridian was established, Alaska was still a Russian territory. Or wasn’t it?
The Alaska Purchase was 1867 and the prime meridian was set in 1884. Not that the British/French and Russians cared enough for each other to see a problem in splitting an empire.
Seriously, a 13-month calendar would make an excellent app, tied to visual maps of the solar system and the earth, moon, and sun. This would be using the vast potential of the computer watch like the platform wants to be used.
For month names, maybe offer lists of the ways they've been named in the past. I'm guessing that the Greeks adopted their month names from the Pelasgians who were there before the Greeks arrived, barbarian nomad invaders that they were. I remember only one Greek month name, had the root "anther" in it, month of flowers, in spring, equivalent to May perhaps. It was the month when the women went to the mountains to revel with Dionysus, I believe.
What were the names of the Pelasgian months? Research project. They were likely to be related to Egyptian names, since we suspect that the Mediterranean people originated in N. Africa. Martin Bernal's third volume of "Black Athena" might be very interesting on this topic. I haven't seen it, since it's still expensive.
I would have to write it lickety-split, because I'm going to chuck my iOS developer program. It’s becoming an increasing pain to deal with all those screens of different sizes.
We know very few about the indigenous languages that were spoken in Greece before the Greeks (Mycenian) invaded the area (maybe Linear A holds a clue to this riddle, but it is yet undeciphered). The Greek language is infected by non Indo-European words, as evidenced, e.g., by words such as ‘doulos’ for ‘slave’ or ‘basileos’ for ‘king’ that bear no relation whatsoever to the other languages in the group. Etruscan could also be a candidate, but Etruscan is as mysterious as Linear A, and the only dictionary we know of, written by imperator Claudius (whose wife was Etruscan), has been lost. Mediterranean is a vast mosaic of sundry folks with hardly any common origin, even back in pre-historic times. However, month names, like our alphabet, have a great chance of having evolved from a single source through cultural exchanges, so it is not such an asinine hypothesis to hold that the Greek month names are somehow reflections of the original names given by whoever invented them. That does not guarantee any phonetic semblance however; the best example of this would be the duo “apricot / precocious”, both deriving from latin praecox, but the former through a rather zany evolution.
What you were saying about the agriculture civilizations going solar: True, and that's the point where humans go wrong, when they estrange themselves from the dewy romance with the moon, mistress of the eau vive, the living water. Going solar means adopting a solar god-father, an obscene goat-skinned war, mountain and storm god, an insult to women and poets. That's the sky-father (Dyaus-Pitar, Jupiter, Zeus, Jove, Yahweh) under whom we've been striving and killing ourselves for 5,000 years.
The ?Watch, properly programmed, could put us back in the embrace of Selene, Diana, Isis, where we can recover our manhood as avatars of Dionysus, Tammuz, Adonis. Or Jason, the healer ("IA"—drug, physician) in search of the "golden fleece," the [I]tue-mouche[/I] that gives us immunity to the Lord of the Flies.
You're right, Linear A would help, but we could do as the trouvères did, and not worry about the details as we make the new songs to change the world. You and Tallest Skil could work out a personal meridian for anyone on Earth.
@EauVive, so wouldn't developing for iWatch (where's the Apple symbol on the iOS keyboard?) be like a relief from resolution madness?
The Watch, properly programmed, could put us back in the embrace of Selene, Diana, Isis, where we can recover our manhood as avatars of Dionysus, Tammuz, Adonis. Or Jason, the healer ("IA"—drug, physician) in search of the "golden fleece," the tue-mouche that gives us immunity to the Lord of the Flies.
I’m sure there will be a ?Watch retina. (Or not…) Yep, you’re right. That does not explain why for the German the Sun was female and the Moon male, though.
I am much too modest to get involved in a work that would put me under the limelight. I work behind the scenes, and am happy about it. “I’m a Vulcan, I have no ego to bruise.”
Been catching up on the posts here, and felt the need to say, "Great post" and truly deserves a quoted reply in it's entirety.
You don't really need a watch. Otherwise, ask your husband to get you a traditional one as a present.
I suppose she could also buy her own?