Guys lets keep a cool head here. Yes Apple messed up but no need to lose it. Apple will fix this in a timely manner. Apple does need to make sure to cross their ts and dot their eyes. Full QA all the time. These are phones. This isn't some android experiment.
The trouble with that is for people at work their personal iTunes account is more than likely back at home: meaning a workday without their private phone. Not end of the world but understandably annoying. I know I'd hate to have to navigate my rush hour traffic without my iPhone's map showing me the traffic jams. I pick the wrong route to commit to and and I can add an hour to that trip in a blink.
Quite true, and I'm not trying to defend Apple here... Most people here know I love Apple, but for this, I definitely give them an F score, and whoever did the QC/QA testing on this update needs to be fired, and they definitely need to step things up in the testing department.
Just recently we had the 2011 MBA EFI fiasco, now this? Not good...
It's time for a new CEO - Mr Cook is an unmitigated disaster for Apple; just wait and see:
1 - Uncalled for distribution of dividends: Apple no longer a growth stock;
2 - Acquisition of Beats - cheapened brand, crappy headphones, ridiculous price for just another streaming service;
3 - Lack of proper torsion testing on the new iPhones, aka "bendgate";
4 - Bigger iPhones with protruding cameras and "smart" watches just because analysts tell Apple to launch them - we no longer innovate, we just follow:
5 - sloppy software releases just like 8.0.1, shutdown of high-end software suites; long delays in launching innovative Macs.
Hmm. Could you please point to the spot on this chart where the stock price is highest? Could you please point to the spot where Sculley was in charge?
Notice the huge gap in dividends.
And who the heck was talking about absolute comparisons? Of course stock prices are higher now. My point was that Sculley's early-to-mid years were among Apple's most prosperous compared to the rest of the company's years (before he joined), yet they led to the same kind of non-innovation and crisis period we're moving towards now.
I'm sure Tim Cook is not a programmer, to tester, nor does he run the QA etc. But, there is going to be more than one employee in more than a little hot water here. Now, Apple has to supply a fix for iOS 6,7,8.0 users, but also iOS 8.0.1 users.
I think eventually, and the sooner the better Apple needs to allow reinstall older iOS releases.
Bunch of incompetent aholes. Completely unacceptable, what kind of moron uploaded this. Hope he and his whole team is fired this is truly incredible. A billion dollar company and they turn around do this, yeah your press release was BS too, "we're working on it" is not an acceptable answer apple.
Having no service screws over everyones day. Oh, so now i gotta go home and DOWNGRADE AND DELETE EVERYTHING, GREAT!!!
Bunch of incompetent aholes. Completely unacceptable, what kind of moron uploaded this. Hope he and his whole team is fired this is truly incredible. A billion dollar company and they turn around do this, yeah your press release was BS too, "we're working on it" is not an acceptable answer apple.
Having no service screws over everyones day. Oh, so now i gotta go home and DOWNGRADE AND DELETE EVERYTHING, GREAT!!!
Quite true, and I'm not trying to defend Apple here... Most people here know I love Apple, but for this, I definitely give them an F score, and whoever did the QC/QA testing on this update needs to be fired, and they definitely need to step things up in the testing department.
Just recently we had the 2011 MBA EFI fiasco, now this? Not good...
I understood that, I was more speculating about why some people would be umbraged. Unlike my usual mockery for the eternally outraged in this instance I could see some basis. Once a convenience is provided people will come to assume it's reliability. As unwise as that may be.
Then connect your phone to iTunes, Command-click the update button (not sure what key on windows) and choose the downloaded file.
Won't work. It keeps saying iOS 8.0.1 is the current update. Then if I try to do a restore it says some of my apps and media I will have to repurchase if I want to have them back.
Won't work. It keeps saying iOS 8.0.1 is the current update. Then if I try to do a restore it says some of my apps and media I will have to repurchase if I want to have them back.
You're holding down the option key (on windows) or Command key (on Mac) while clicking the button? It should present you with a file selection dialog.
You're holding down the option key (on windows) or Command key (on Mac) while clicking the button? It should present you with a file selection dialog.
I'm holding down the command key and clicking. It's the option/alt key not the command key.
But now there is another issue. I can't even update it to the iOS 8.0.1 that worked because they shut everything off. You don't have to shut off the iTunes update because the OTA Update didn't work.... or is their system tied up in such a way that there is a dependency there.
That really is an #APPLEFAIL. I'm happy to be a beta tester when I sign up for it. However, this wasn't the case. They should've given developers time to test it first and then released it to the public.
It's time for a new CEO - Mr Cook is an unmitigated disaster for Apple; just wait and see:
1 - Uncalled for distribution of dividends: Apple no longer a growth stock;
2 - Acquisition of Beats - cheapened brand, crappy headphones, ridiculous price for just another streaming service;
3 - Lack of proper torsion testing on the new iPhones, aka "bendgate";
4 - Bigger iPhones with protruding cameras and "smart" watches just because analysts tell Apple to launch them - we no longer innovate, we just follow:
5 - sloppy software releases just like 8.0.1, shutdown of high-end software suites; long delays in launching innovative Macs.
You seriously need to STFU.
I certainly don't agree with his ridiculously hyperbolic first sentence. But his 5 points are, at least, legitimate 'arguments' (opinions).
How would it be to stage upgrades to one city or to apple employees. For a few days. World wide.
First time I've ever agreed with you that I can remember.
With the increasing scale, complexity, "journalistic" scrutiny, and whiney entitlement, it might be wise for Apple to test in the wild in stages, if that were even possible.
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung was somehow involved with this. "We'll give you $10M if you sabotage......".
Sure, it's unlikely, but this isn't beneath them given the unscrupulous things that they have done in the past(starting with their chairman's tax evasion conviction).
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Guys lets keep a cool head here. Yes Apple messed up but no need to lose it. Apple will fix this in a timely manner. Apple does need to make sure to cross their ts and dot their eyes. Full QA all the time. These are phones. This isn't some android experiment.
Thats why you should NEVER update your device away from you backup computer.
USE YOUR BRAIN PEOPLE!
If your phone is so mission critical take the proper steps. Not having cell reception for a few hours is not the end of the world.
What's your thought on app updates? As I posted above (187) while I avoid OS updates I do let the apps update in the background...
The Verge has posted a workaround/dowgrade instructional.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/24/6839347/fix-for-bad-ios-8-0-1-update
Just recently we had the 2011 MBA EFI fiasco, now this? Not good...
Hmm. Could you please point to the spot on this chart where the stock price is highest? Could you please point to the spot where Sculley was in charge?
Notice the huge gap in dividends.
And who the heck was talking about absolute comparisons? Of course stock prices are higher now. My point was that Sculley's early-to-mid years were among Apple's most prosperous compared to the rest of the company's years (before he joined), yet they led to the same kind of non-innovation and crisis period we're moving towards now.
Check this to understand what I mean:
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26432985/from-archive-1992-sculley-steering-apple-into-21st
"yet they led to the same kind of non-innovation and crisis period we're moving towards now."
Pure Bullshit. A Lawyer should know a strawman argument when he sees (uses) one.
It's called Tim Cook.
I'm sure Tim Cook is not a programmer, to tester, nor does he run the QA etc. But, there is going to be more than one employee in more than a little hot water here. Now, Apple has to supply a fix for iOS 6,7,8.0 users, but also iOS 8.0.1 users.
I think eventually, and the sooner the better Apple needs to allow reinstall older iOS releases.
Having no service screws over everyones day. Oh, so now i gotta go home and DOWNGRADE AND DELETE EVERYTHING, GREAT!!!
Having no service screws over everyones day. Oh, so now i gotta go home and DOWNGRADE AND DELETE EVERYTHING, GREAT!!!
Quite true, and I'm not trying to defend Apple here... Most people here know I love Apple, but for this, I definitely give them an F score, and whoever did the QC/QA testing on this update needs to be fired, and they definitely need to step things up in the testing department.
Just recently we had the 2011 MBA EFI fiasco, now this? Not good...
I understood that, I was more speculating about why some people would be umbraged. Unlike my usual mockery for the eternally outraged in this instance I could see some basis. Once a convenience is provided people will come to assume it's reliability. As unwise as that may be.
The issue can easily be resolved by re-updating the affected phone with the complete image, not an over-the air update.
You can just re-apply the update using iTunes.
Download the firmware:
6+ http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS8/031-07519.20140924.FTHpb/iPhone7,1_8.0.1_12A402_Restore.ipsw
6 http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS8/031-07540.20140924.b41vK/iPhone7,2_8.0.1_12A402_Restore.ipsw
Then connect your phone to iTunes, Command-click the update button (not sure what key on windows) and choose the downloaded file.
Won't work. It keeps saying iOS 8.0.1 is the current update. Then if I try to do a restore it says some of my apps and media I will have to repurchase if I want to have them back.
Won't work. It keeps saying iOS 8.0.1 is the current update. Then if I try to do a restore it says some of my apps and media I will have to repurchase if I want to have them back.
You're holding down the option key (on windows) or Command key (on Mac) while clicking the button? It should present you with a file selection dialog.
You're holding down the option key (on windows) or Command key (on Mac) while clicking the button? It should present you with a file selection dialog.
I'm holding down the command key and clicking. It's the option/alt key not the command key.
But now there is another issue. I can't even update it to the iOS 8.0.1 that worked because they shut everything off. You don't have to shut off the iTunes update because the OTA Update didn't work.... or is their system tied up in such a way that there is a dependency there.
That really is an #APPLEFAIL. I'm happy to be a beta tester when I sign up for it. However, this wasn't the case. They should've given developers time to test it first and then released it to the public.
It's time for a new CEO - Mr Cook is an unmitigated disaster for Apple; just wait and see:
1 - Uncalled for distribution of dividends: Apple no longer a growth stock;
2 - Acquisition of Beats - cheapened brand, crappy headphones, ridiculous price for just another streaming service;
3 - Lack of proper torsion testing on the new iPhones, aka "bendgate";
4 - Bigger iPhones with protruding cameras and "smart" watches just because analysts tell Apple to launch them - we no longer innovate, we just follow:
5 - sloppy software releases just like 8.0.1, shutdown of high-end software suites; long delays in launching innovative Macs.
You seriously need to STFU.
I certainly don't agree with his ridiculously hyperbolic first sentence. But his 5 points are, at least, legitimate 'arguments' (opinions).
First time I've ever agreed with you that I can remember.
With the increasing scale, complexity, "journalistic" scrutiny, and whiney entitlement, it might be wise for Apple to test in the wild in stages, if that were even possible.
Better solution is that they should hire you. That would have added benefits for us here at AI.
By the way, in the middle of a crisis is not the time to fire your experts.
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung was somehow involved with this. "We'll give you $10M if you sabotage......".
Sure, it's unlikely, but this isn't beneath them given the unscrupulous things that they have done in the past(starting with their chairman's tax evasion conviction).
Can't wait to hear slurpy explain this one away.
So glad I have a non bendable 5S running 8.0 flawlessly.