Microsoft looks to distance itself from Windows 8, jumps to Windows 10

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  • Reply 181 of 214
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,225member
    Is it a complete rewrite from the ground up, as has been needed for the past 14 years?

    If not…

     <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="49916" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/49916/width/624/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 624px; height: 351px">

    Having been using Windows Ten all day yesterday I am pretty certain it is Windows 8.1 with half of Windows 7 bolted on ... it sucks so hard as to be entertaining ... for a while.

    I loved the web page for getting 10. It went on and on about it required a real expert to install. It even said something like this ... "If you think BIOS is a (I forget what now but something funny), and don't know how to manage an ISO file then this isn't a project for you".

    It took 10 minutes to download, install and be up and running on my new Mac Pro with VMWare and I probably used three brain cells.
  • Reply 182 of 214
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,225member
    What advertising?  If you're ignorant on a topic don't talk about it.




    I downloaded a few of the free apps on my Windows 10 from the Windows Crap Store and everyone had massive ads taking up a good amount of the screen the entire time. The good news is there is a nice large button to close them, the bad news is that throws you straight into the BUY page of the store. Pretty horrible to say the least.
  • Reply 183 of 214
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,225member
    stevenoz wrote: »

    Or PC OSX

    let's abbreviate that ... ... POX
  • Reply 184 of 214
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,225member
    knowitall wrote: »

    This thread is fun!

    I read Windblows 8 had a take up rate of a whopping 11% of all users. I don't know but I bet only half of the remaining 89% are using 7, but WTF are the rest using ... XP?
  • Reply 185 of 214
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post









    I downloaded a few of the free apps on my Windows 10 from the Windows Crap Store and everyone had massive ads taking up a good amount of the screen the entire time. The good news is there is a nice large button to close them, the bad news is that throws you straight into the BUY page of the store. Pretty horrible to say the least.

    Yes but the guy above is talking about ads in the start menu.  What he is seeing is live tiles.

  • Reply 186 of 214
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    After it.



    That seem logic.

  • Reply 187 of 214
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    I read Windblows 8 had a take up rate of a whopping 11% of all users. I don't know but I bet only half of the remaining 89% are using 7, but WTF are the rest using ... XP?

    XP runs just fine. I use it to control some analytical instruments. No need to upgrade (Thank Good!!!).

  • Reply 188 of 214
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    Originally Posted by sammysamsam View Post

     

     

    It wasn't a launch of Windows 10.  It was a small unveil of a product coming out next year to get enthusiasts and the enterprise involved early to try it out.  Clutch at straws much?




    Well if you would look a little bit further than the tip of your nose, you might have realized, that Yosemite hasn't launched yet either. That makes the two events indeed comparable. They were both first glimpses of an upcoming new OS

  • Reply 189 of 214
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,720member

    Gizmodo is saying that there is too much sloppy third party code in the world written to detect both Win95 and Win98 to be able to call it "Windows 9":

     

    http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-may-have-gotten-its-name-because-of-lazy-cod-1641383218

     

     

    Then again, it's Gizmodo, so you should probably check that any of your personal belongings haven't suddenly gone missing...

  • Reply 190 of 214
    canukstorm wrote: »

    What makes you so sure that OS XI will be out in four years, if at all?

    Everyone knows "OS Y" follows OS X.
  • Reply 191 of 214
    Originally Posted by jcbigears View Post

    The actual reason to skip 9 is that existing code search strings looking for the operating system search for "Windows 9" and assumes it to be Windows 95, 98 or ME. Take a look at this if you don't believe me.

    https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows+9%22%29

     

    I want to be confident that Microsoft isn’t staffed with complete and utter buffoons, but honestly this seems logical. They are THIS BAD at writing code.

     

    Originally Posted by sammysamsam View Post

    What advertising?  If you're ignorant on a topic don't talk about it.


     

    Try using your eyes.

  • Reply 192 of 214
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    I want to be confident that Microsoft isn’t staffed with complete and utter buffoons, but honestly this seems logical. They are THIS BAD at writing code.

     


     

    Yeah, that's horrible. I remember when a manager once suggested we add "Writing Solid Code" to the team's reading list. Written by an MS engineer. I assume the title was incorrect.

  • Reply 193 of 214
    I want to be confident that Microsoft isn’t staffed with complete and utter buffoons, but honestly this seems logical. They are THIS BAD at writing code.


    Try using your eyes.

    I am. The screenshot is of live tiles in the start menu. Where are the ads? You're ignorant of live tiles so educate yourself.
  • Reply 194 of 214
    anomeanome Posts: 1,269member
    john.b wrote: »
    Gizmodo is saying that there is too much sloppy third party code in the world written to detect both Win95 and Win98 to be able to call it "Windows 9":

    http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-may-have-gotten-its-name-because-of-lazy-cod-1641383218

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="50066" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/50066/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 88px">


    Then again, it's Gizmodo, so you should probably check that any of your personal belongings haven't suddenly gone missing...
    "Gizmodo: Not guilty of theft for almost 5 years!"
    I want to be confident that Microsoft isn’t staffed with complete and utter buffoons, but honestly this seems logical. They are THIS BAD at writing code.
    The problem isn't necessarily limited to MS developers. There's probably enough dodgy software out there that isn't written by MS that would make this a sensible move, even if all their code has been remediated (and I'm guessing it hasn't).

    I still don't quite get that. MS making a sensible move. Weird.
  • Reply 195 of 214
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by sammysamsam View Post

    I am. The screenshot is of live tiles in the start menu. Where are the ads? You're ignorant of live tiles so educate yourself.



    Nah, I think I know what a live tile is.

  • Reply 196 of 214

    Nah, I think I know what a live tile is.

    So is it an advert or not an advert? Is it a live tile or not a live tile?
  • Reply 197 of 214
    gctwnlgctwnl Posts: 277member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post



    What the hell is a "Start Menu" anyway? After this many tries, shouldn't Windows be smart enough to start by itself?



    It's the menu where you can shut down, log off, etc.

     

    On another track:

    Windows 10.0 mouse 

    Windows 10.1 hamster

    Windows 10.2 bug

    Windows 10.3 worm

  • Reply 198 of 214
    gctwnlgctwnl Posts: 277member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post



    Windows? I look out of windows.



    If God wished us to use Windows, he would allow us to come back from the dead...frequently.



    NEVER approach a PC thinking "This will only take 5 minutes".



    Windows users often swear at their PC's, whereas Mac users always swear by their Macs.

     

    Well, as far as the last one is concerned, let's not forget that Apple combines an insane level of detail in some areas with even insane levels of neglect in other areas. Have a look at how broken Mobile Accounts are in OS X Server and for how long this has been the case. Complete neglect. Makes me swear at a regular basis, e.g. when loggin in or out takes hours because suddenly home sync has decided that everything in an iPhoto Library has to be synced, or when syncing fails, lock screen startes and suddenly the focus of the lock screen is somewhere behind that lock screen in a warning panel you can't reach (solution: hard reset).

     

    Better than Windows, yes, a lot even, perfect no.

  • Reply 199 of 214
    ingsocingsoc Posts: 212member
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    I read Windblows 8 had a take up rate of a whopping 11% of all users. I don't know but I bet only half of the remaining 89% are using 7, but WTF are the rest using ... XP?

     

    I assume so, yeah. I think the biggest challenge for Microsoft is migrating enterprise users - just about every business on Earth uses Windows. And this means that are huge, huge numbers of people who are fairly illiterate with computers generally; they might just know WinXP enough to get around and do the basis. Thus, a radical change like Windows 8 was always going to face difficulty at that level.

     

    Windows 10 has more chance, but still...as you point out, not even Win7 had the kind of uptake the MS hoped for (despite being a genuinely good OS update from XP). So I think MS have some very unique challenges on this level.

  • Reply 200 of 214

    Well if you would look a little bit further than the tip of your nose, you might have realized, that Yosemite hasn't launched yet either. That makes the two events indeed comparable. They were both first glimpses of an upcoming new OS

    If you didn't realize the events are invitation only. It's not free entry to everyone - hence is not an attendance contest. You're still clutching at straws.
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