Pretty stunning, keeping in mind that these companies sell computers starting from $199, and Apple's best selling computers are in the $1-2K range. If Apple decided to make cheap trash, it would be at the #1 spot by a wide margin.
There's not enough lols for this statement. You're extremely, insanely disconnected if you believe the "market" is waiting for a "mid-tower". Or, you just arrived here in a time machine from a decade ago. Vast majority of people don't buy towers anymore, they're a niche product.
Wow. Others is just an amazing company.
#1 in tablets and PCs
Wiley Coyote (some buddy of Larry Ellison's??) is the major stockholder and CEO. And their Road Runner lines just can't be beat for speed....
The new retina Air will blow everything out of the water. I'll be buying my daughters each one for post secondary.
Hope so. I'm hanging on for it (and I really badly need a new PC)... ...too bad Intel decided to break Moore's law this year with Broadwell slipping multiple times or we'd already have it. I'm sure it was planned for this years holiday season early in the year and they're just holding off.
Personally I can't imagine they won't. But then I thought they'd refresh the 5s with an A8, etc. given that it was the best selling single phone model in the world (right?) right up until the announcement of the 6 line.... ...so obviously Apple's not afraid to be bold in their bets and move on without looking back....
slurpy wrote: »
<p>Pretty stunning, keeping in mind that these companies sell computers starting from $199, and Apple's best selling computers are in the $1-2K range. If Apple decided to make cheap trash, it would be at the #1 spot by a wide margin. </p>
waybacmac wrote: »
<p>One could make the case that the fiasco with Windows 8 had a negative effect on PC sales. If so, then it will be interesting to see whether sales will recover if Windows 10 is successful. Going another step further, if Windows 10 is not successful, will the "traditional" PC makers start going out of business, or will there be an effort to develop an alternate OS to Windows and MacOS, probably based on Linux?</p><p> </p><p>Food for thought…</p>
Oligopoly in being
radarthekat wrote: »
Market share is interesting as it tells the story of how many new units from each vendors are making their way into people's lives. But what would also be interesting is how long each unit from each vendor remains in use by the original purchaser and thereafter. Apple sells less units, but I suspect they remain in use longer, meaning the share of Macs actually in use is growing faster, through longer lifespan/lower attrition than competing PCs.
Cumulative Macs versus cumulative Windows PCs through the last two decades would be an interesting chart.
thepixeldoc wrote: »
It sure wouldn't surprise me if Apple had close to or more than 30% of the "home computing" market outside of 3rd world countries
gatorguy wrote: »
If you look at OS version share I don't think it supports the view that Windows PC's in general don't have a long and useful life. Nearly 25% of those currently are using a relatively ancient PC with the at least 8-14 year old OS it came with, Windows XP. It 's not at all unusual to see Circa 2000-2010 Win PC's still computing away in dens and offices. They don't fall by the wayside as easily as you apparently imagine.
IMHO that's not very likely. I don't personally believe the majority of home users willing to pay a few hundred extra for a Mac over a PC particularly when there's no advantages to the additional expense they're aware of. And honestly most casual users are shopping price with no idea why they really should spend more (translation: work longer and harder to pay for it) for something with a different OS they aren't familiar with. If as much as 10% of the home market uses OS X I'd be really really surprised.
melgross wrote: »
At least here in the USA, Macs comprise one out of three computers bought for the home, according to apple. I believe that. The numbers fit. I don't agree with the Marketshare numbers we see. I'm sure they are higher. Both Gartner and IDC underestimate Apple,s numbers so much that if they've done it again now, it's likely over 14% here, and over 8% worldwide. If business is buying Macs at a low rate, even though Mac sales to business has been rising at 50% a year for the past several years, then a good 30% for home use seems correct. Elsewhere, about half that percentage.
Not quite. My memory stopped working a few years ago and it makes me want to ram my car into a concrete wall.
thepixeldoc wrote: »
I did not mean only OSX in my guesstimate.
I was taking into consideration exactly what you posted above regarding old PCs, and a lot of those not being used, and/or being replaced by iOS or even Android devices for most "home computing" needs.
If those old PCs are turned on less than 10% of a household's computer usage... I don't see why we can't find that out somewhere, and just drop them from consideration.
It MIGHT even be beneficial if Microsoft knew that break-down themselves. Actually, I think they already do know, and that's why they're waffling with Windows 10... and trying to do whatever they can to get the Surface moving above all else. Even if it means giving 2000 of them away at Adobe MAX and trying to steal Apple's dominance in the creative studios around the world, or attempting to do the same in the education market.
I'll rephrase my "guesstimate": PC towers, desktops and/or laptops running Windows of any kind or version for the majority of household computing needs, has sunk below 50%; with Apple and Google OS's splitting the other 50%. My bet is on Apple at 30% due to the iPad.
gatorguy wrote: »
Ah, gotcha. I had misunderstood. Including any computing device I wouldn't be shocked to find an Apple product in 60% of US households that own a computing device.
gatorguy wrote: »
How do you account for the Netshare numbers tracking OS versions? Mac's certainly don't comprise 1/3rd. I also don't recall Apple ever saying that 1/3 of all computers sold in the US for home use are Macs but you no doubt have a link to that you can share.