Quoting that guy as an "expert" ruins any credibility you may have had...
AppleInsider wrote: »
New security features in Apple's iOS 8 platform make it technically impossible for the company to decrypt on-device data, even if law enforcement agencies were to provide the proper warrants. If an iPhone has been locked with a secure passcode, Apple has no method of bypassing that code.
tlevier wrote: »
"Life or Liberty" is typically at the root of the most contentious issues the US populace discusses. As a collective group, we're pretty bi-polar and inconsistent. Think: "Abortion", "Guns", "Speech", "Privacy", "Drugs", "Distracted Driving", etc...
It is my opinion that our system of government is supposed to protect "Liberty" above all and where "Liberty" did not preserve "Life", that leftover responsibility to protect "Life" was an individual responsibility.
We don't send troops overseas to protect "Life", to save future citizens from being killed. We send them to protect "Liberty", our way of life and form of government, so that we don't fall to tyranny, to a government that will protect life at all costs. If "Life" were so important, we wouldn't have legal alcohol or guns, and we would speed up our march to automated self-driving cars so reckless driving could be eliminated. The fact is, "Life" isn't as important as "Liberty" - and the plain reason for that is this: Nothing protects "Life" as well or completely as "Liberty".
Sh*t happens. I hope it never happens to anyone, but that's not a justification to create a future government that slides down that slippery slope and jumps the shark.
Logging everything (and then allowing access to everything with or without out a warrant) is what got us this far. The warrant should only be valid for a restricted period (and should not be retroactive). Otherwise, no cigar.
But the mere fact that accessible logs exist poses an enormous security threat and a tempting opportunity for government to break the law covertly.
I've seen better makeup on corpses in funeral homes.
Yeah, I thought that too when I viewed it. :-)
smaffei wrote: »
Yeah, I thought that too when I viewed it. :-)
But that's not the only passcode available for iPhones, there's also a "secure passcode" choice in settings that's a lot larger than 4 digits. Beyond that there's a sequence of lockdown delays beyond a certain number of wrong passcode entries, which increase as the error builds in number leading to a device lockdown that has to be resolved via other methods. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2446
I disagree with your argument somewhat, but now relating it to a safe in my house, or a portable lock box in my car, that would be more apropos. The reality of it, is you could have some very tangible things in there, that could be considered physical evidence, but the thought that the police think they should just get blanket rights to do whatever they want is appalling.
This is why the argument "nothing to hide" is patently untenable:
First "Imagine upon exiting your house one day you find a person searching through your trash painstakingly putting the shredded notes and documents back together. In response to your stunned silence he proclaims 'you don’t have anything to worry about – there is no reason to hide is there?'"
Second, individuals may wish to hide embarrassing behavior or conduct not accepted by the dominant culture. "Consider someone’s sexual or medical history. Imagine someone visiting a library to learn about alternative lifestyles not accepted by the majority."
The latter one is most egregious. What if I send and receive emails that discuss for example: occult/psychic or anthropological or Rosicrucian knowledge and literature or Wicca . All completely legal and studious fields. Do we really want the government knowing this. I don't have anything to hide but I sure don't want some conservative small minded bigot who is in a position of power and authority (say at the police dept) having access to my life!
In Germany they have a saying now called "Massen Politik" which acts a warning to never let the majority dictate to the minorities. It is a fundamental of a civilized culture to have respect and consideration for other who may differing points of view or beliefs within reasonable limits of course (Murder is not acceptable belief). When a majority starts dictating what is acceptable behavior as did the Nazis to the Jew in the 30's you have the seeds of pure evil. This is the reason we must have privacy and the reason why people like CIA director are completely WRONG. There is no way he can guarantee this info won't be abused by people with less than un corruptible morals
What they have been doing has been warrant less searches!!! Just searching anyone they feel like it. That's against the constitution of this country and it's been getting more and more stepped all over by this government, Obama being the worst yet! The Patriot Act that bush signed into law is unconstitutional. At least it was set to expire, but then OBAMA not only expanded it, it made it worse. It was for spying on people out side this country, after Obama, it was just outright spying in any and all American's in this country.
This government and others think they just have the powers to do whatever it wants and we the people keep letting it happen. My phone is a part of ME and private. You want to see whats on get, Get a Court Order/Warrant for ME and My phone!!! Otherwise F off!!!!
I totally agree with you- At the time Obama was running I asked all my liberal friends. The correct question to ask Obama was "Will you repeal the Patriot Act" I knew of course that would never happen and I told them that Obama (who after all is simply a manager not a leader) would be even worse than Bush. They all thought I was mad at the time. They don't want to be reminded of my question back then of course because they know I'm right. I still believe the American people are the most naive slaves on the planet on both sides of the Aisle. They actually believe that voting changes things - poor deluded slaves. And another election circus starts again soon with the usual suspects Clinton and Christie - what a fracking joke
oh its called "home land security" for a reason . Protection of the Federal Government from the people of the US homeland. It was always directed at the US people first and foremost. Where do you think all those people working in the Dept of Homeland Security are actually working? Why is it folks don't see what is staring them in the face? Its like people walking around with a mind that can't truly see what is going on! The only persons in the media that did draw attention to this were Gore Vidal (now dead) and the comedian George Carlin dead as well.
and of course brute force methods are easily defeated by having a lock out after 5 attempts.
The pot calling the kettle black, the nerve of the man!
Actually anything with an A7 or above gets this by default but it does bear repeating.
"On a device with an A7 processor, the key operations are performed by the Secure Enclave, which also enforces a 5-second delay between repeated failed unlocking requests. This provides a governor against brute-force attacks in addition to safeguards enforced by iOS. "