'I'm proud to be gay,' Apple CEO Tim Cook says in open letter supporting equality

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  • Reply 421 of 650
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    There's no treating serial killers, their brains are actually quite similar to that of a genius. They're just wired differently, and there's nothing that can be done to remedy that.



    The composer, Danny Elfman claims that if he hadn't found his outlet in music he would've become a serial killer (not sure how serious he was at the time)...

  • Reply 422 of 650
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    And the only way to guarantee abstinence is....? Right - never been achieved, because it denies a basic, powerful human instinct. So your proposal is both impracticable and onerous to those to whom you seek to deny the behavior. Do you think there were fewer unplanned children before contraception and abortion were available? Luckily there are now other options, even if your religious dogma seeks to discount and criminalize them.

     

     


     

    Total BS.  I was abstinent before getting married.  Was it easy?  HELL NO.  But it can be done.

     

    Is it too much to expect people to graduate from high school first before making babies?

     

    Sure there is birth control but that only works 90% of the time.  You are setting up yourself for failure.

     

    Our basic human instinct also tells us to beat up people we dont like.

    If we let our basic human instinct tell us what to do we would be just like animals


     

     

    Exactly!

     

    It’s so trendy today to say, "Be who you are." And sorry Apple, but 'Think Different' is saying just that. But it's a load of bullshit.

     

    The whole worship of the individual is a sham that is built on sand. We all have quite enough individuality as it is. The real path to truth lies in doing the very opposite; in subsuming our individuality to the worship of God. Only then can we reach salvation.

  • Reply 423 of 650
    This has been an interesting and revealing thread ...

    And, surprisingly quite civil ...

    This is the web at it's best!
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    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member
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    Originally Posted by KiltedGreen View Post





    Can you know anything at all of what is still happening on this planet and really still say that?



    Open. Your. Eyes.

    Don't put words in my mouth. I was simply asking a question, not making a statement. Making a statement and asking a question are two different things. 

  • Reply 425 of 650
    sog35 wrote: »
     
    [SIZE=18px]Originally Pos[/SIZE]ted by muppetry go_quote.gif

     

    And the only way to guarantee abstinence is....? Right - [SIZE=20px]never been achieved, because it denies a basic, powerful human instinct[/SIZE]. So your proposal is both impracticable and onerous to those to whom you seek to deny the behavior. Do you think there were fewer unplanned children before contraception and abortion were available? Luckily there are now other options, even if your religious dogma seeks to discount and criminalize them.


    Total BS.  I was abstinent before getting married.  Was it easy?  HELL NO.  But it can be done.

    Is it too much to expect people to graduate from high school first before making babies?

    Sure there is birth control but that only works 90% of the time.  You are setting up yourself for failure.

    Our basic human instinct also tells us to beat up people we dont like.
    If we let our basic human instinct tell us what to do we would be just like animals


    Exactly!

    It’s so trendy today to say, "Be who you are." And sorry Apple, but 'Think Different' is saying just that. But it's a load of bullshit.

    The whole worship of the individual is a sham that is built on sand. We all have quite enough individuality as it is. The real path to truth lies in doing the very opposite; in subsuming our individuality to the worship of God. Only then can we reach salvation.

    Some honest questions:

    Which God?

    What if you don't believe in God?

    Does that make you less moral, ethical ... less open to salvation?



    Abou Ben Adhem (may his tribe increase!)
    Awoke one night from a deep dream of peace,
    And saw, within the moonlight in his room,
    Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom,
    An angel writing in a book of gold:—

    Exceeding peace had made Ben Adhem bold,
    And to the Presence in the room he said
    "What writest thou?"—The vision raised its head,
    And with a look made of all sweet accord,
    Answered "The names of those who love the Lord."

    "And is mine one?" said Abou. "Nay, not so,"
    Replied the angel. Abou spoke more low,
    But cheerly still, and said "I pray thee, then,
    Write me as one that loves his fellow men."

    The angel wrote, and vanished. The next night
    It came again with a great wakening light,
    And showed the names whom love of God had blessed,
    And lo! Ben Adhem's name led all the rest.

    - James Henry Leigh Hunt
  • Reply 426 of 650
    http://i.imgur.com/oNGaU5m.jpg

    It's given him a skin of a rhinoceros. Around certain parts.
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    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    There's no treating serial killers, their brains are actually quite similar to that of a genius. They're just wired differently, and there's nothing that can be done to remedy that.

    I get my deep insight into serial killers from watching Criminal Minds on Netflix so I'll bow to your superior knowledge. ;)
  • Reply 429 of 650
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    Well ...

    I chose agnostic because I thought it would get the idea across ...

    For me personally, I don't believe in any formal religion ... Nor, do I think there is a specific God ...


    However, I do believe in faith, as well as science ... and that there is some greater power (other than random intersection) that controls our destinies ...

    Call it Karma, Serendipity ,,, or just "things happen for a reason" -- as my late wife Lucy said it.

    Like you, Lucy was a "keeper" and my second marriage -- she gave up her religion to marry me ... I can't adequately express how much that means!

    But, just to prove my bona fides:

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for I'm the meanest son-of-a-bitch in the valley!


    Edit: Oh, yeah -- Tom Leher had some other original songs that would be appropriate for this thread

    I was just kidding. To be honest, I am thinking of going back to saying agnostic over atheist. I simply had no idea the animosity and prejudice I'd come against in the USA with the term atheist. In England it is par for the course and no one would give a damn either way. You could run for Prime Minister without having to even mention it. Here you couldn't run for the village dog catcher if you mentioned the word.
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    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member

    Mental illness? That's what this whole article and thread has been about.

    I'd disagree over all, there has been some wonderful thinking expressed by many but also the display of some rigid and closed minds too. It's all part of the human experience. Which is why at times I like animals better and am a keen wild life photographer these days.
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    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    I've had a gun pulled on me twice, once because I wasn't Hispanic. What special "rights" and privileges does that earn me?

    Oh I gotta hear that story. You almost had the privilege of an ambulance ride. :lol:
  • Reply 432 of 650
    Here's a thought:

    Tim Cook for president in 2016!
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    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member

    Exactly!

    It’s so trendy today to say, "Be who you are." And sorry Apple, but 'Think Different' is saying just that. But it's a load of bullshit.

    The whole worship of the individual is a sham that is built on sand. We all have quite enough individuality as it is. The real path to truth lies in doing the very opposite; in subsuming our individuality to the worship of God. Only then can we reach salvation.

    Each to his own.
  • Reply 434 of 650
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    Here's a thought:

    Tim Cook for president in 2016!

    You couldn't pay him enough. :D
  • Reply 435 of 650

    Mental illness? That's what this whole article and thread has been about.

    I'd disagree over all, there has been some wonderful thinking expressed by many but also the display of some rigid and closed minds too. It's all part of the human experience. Which is why at times I like animals better and am a keen wild life photographer these days.

    Got a website where you can strut your stuff?
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    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    [I][SIZE=7]I love this thread.[/SIZE][/I]
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    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Oh I gotta hear that story. You almost had the privilege of an ambulance ride. :lol:

    I nearly got mugged once and pretended I had a gun and got away with it. Does that count? Amsterdam, dark area near a canal ... true story! :\
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    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Got a website where you can strut your stuff?

    digitalpornclips.com :lol:
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    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Here's a thought:

    Tim Cook for president in 2016!

    I imagine that would affect [@]Apple ][[/@] most of all. Does he not support Apple or does he support a dirty liberal?
  • Reply 440 of 650
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    And the only way to guarantee abstinence is....? Right - never been achieved, because it denies a basic, powerful human instinct. So your proposal is both impracticable and onerous to those to whom you seek to deny the behavior. Do you think there were fewer unplanned children before contraception and abortion were available? Luckily there are now other options, even if your religious dogma seeks to discount and criminalize them.

     




    Total BS.  I was abstinent before getting married.  Was it easy?  HELL NO.  But it can be done.



    Is it too much to expect people to graduate from high school first before making babies?



    Sure there is birth control but that only works 90% of the time.  You are setting up yourself for failure.



    Our basic human instinct also tells us to beat up people we dont like.

    If we let our basic human instinct tell us what to do we would be just like animals






    Exactly!



    It’s so trendy today to say, "Be who you are." And sorry Apple, but 'Think Different' is saying just that. But it's a load of bullshit.



    The whole worship of the individual is a sham that is built on sand. We all have quite enough individuality as it is. The real path to truth lies in doing the very opposite; in subsuming our individuality to the worship of God. Only then can we reach salvation.




    Some honest questions:



    Which God?



    What if you don't believe in God?



    Does that make you less moral, ethical ... less open to salvation?







    Abou Ben Adhem (may his tribe increase!)

    Awoke one night from a deep dream of peace,

    And saw, within the moonlight in his room,

    Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom,

    An angel writing in a book of gold:—



    Exceeding peace had made Ben Adhem bold,

    And to the Presence in the room he said

    "What writest thou?"—The vision raised its head,

    And with a look made of all sweet accord,

    Answered "The names of those who love the Lord."



    "And is mine one?" said Abou. "Nay, not so,"

    Replied the angel. Abou spoke more low,

    But cheerly still, and said "I pray thee, then,

    Write me as one that loves his fellow men."



    The angel wrote, and vanished. The next night

    It came again with a great wakening light,

    And showed the names whom love of God had blessed,

    And lo! Ben Adhem's name led all the rest.



    - James Henry Leigh Hunt

     

     

    You've answered your own questions. 

     

    That beautiful poem contains one of the two great Commandments:

     

    Love thy neighbour as thyself.

     

    Which God? God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

     

    If you don't believe in God, then you're human. But I think it’s important to try and find Him.

     

    Does it make you less open to salvation? That's not for me to say.

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