Next Pentium chip
[quote] The next version of the Pentium 4, code-named Prescott, will enhance desktop performance through hyper-threading, among other changes, Intel's Louis Burns, vice president of the Desktop Platforms Group, said at the four-day Intel Developer Forum here. Burns also demonstrated a 4GHz Pentium 4, which should come out sometime next year.
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Sure we all know that the G4 and Pentium chip aren't equal in speed ratings, but something like this will make Macs look even worse to those going by MHz numbers.
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Sure we all know that the G4 and Pentium chip aren't equal in speed ratings, but something like this will make Macs look even worse to those going by MHz numbers.
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AMDs next processer will toast the P4. Sledgehammer baby!
Oh, right, mac stuff. Well put it this way, no one even sees macs as competitive in the MHZ dept. any more, so this doest really make a difference.
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What am I complaining for though?
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Look at oregon in an atlas and you'll probably find out. I like Hammer and Crush better too.
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Look at oregon in an atlas and you'll probably find out. I like Hammer and Crush better too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah - you have to live in the northwest to know those kind of names. Like Wilammette - that is a river and a valley in Oregon.
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<strong>Although I appreciate that the codenames o' these things are picked by virtue o' their resonances in the US market, I should point oot that this particular name isnae withoot its 'hard hitting', 'packs a punch' associations in the UK.
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> You beat me to it Sir Mac! I was thinking the very same!
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And for good measure...
It won't use that much power, as the core will likely go through a die shrink before then, as the P7 core has just done -- .18um to .13um technology.
Please quit spewing crap like this.
Actually, it's ridiculously far off and you're a buffoon for backing that crap up.
The core will be shrunk before it goes to 4GHz. Prescott is a .09um part codename. Currently the P4 is manufactured at .18um and .13um for the fastest speeds. Shrinking the die will reduce heat further.
Therefore saying that watercooling will be necessary to cool a .09um part at a clockspeed that will be reached early in that process is stupid as **** all. Saying it would melt the case otherwise is stupid as **** all.
A 4GHz P4 on .09um will be sufficiently cooled by the retail HSF combo. Now if someone wishes to use more exotic cooling to overclock it that's up to them, but saying it will be required for stock operation is idiocy.
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And for good measure...
It won't use that much power, as the core will likely go through a die shrink before then, as the P7 core has just done -- .18um to .13um technology.
Please quit spewing crap like this.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Since very few people really have any idea about semiconductors and the industry that makes them, let me explain that feature size tends to decrease much more slowly than the advancement of techniques required to include more transistors on a chip increases.
So undoubtedly the new Pentium will be bigger than the last unless it is just a reworked version of the same thing, since Intel hasn't done anything algorithmic like RISC with its line.
Even if it is a reworked version of the last, dropping the feature size to ) 0.11 micron (or 0.10 if they've been doing their homework) it's not going to reduce size or power consumption markedly.
I don't know what hyper-threading is, but I bet its yet another gimmicky name for a bypassing sequence used in order to reduce/eliminate error in Intel's insanely long pipeline. In which case expect more transistors & more heat.
Lastly, if you consider 50W to be "not that much power" you and I have differing opinions about power. Sub 5W is "not that much power."
In conclusion:
Intel is bound to an architecture right now that prevents them from doing anything cool. Technologically, the next Pentium will be like a really modern car with a 500 cu in '73 El Dorado engine in it. Don't get me wrong: Intel doesn't suck at all, but the Pentium line is way overdue.
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Geez, take it easy! We can joke a little here, can't we? Obviously we are joking (it is obvious to you, isn't it?). Do you think someone believes it is going to melt through the case? Do you believe I am "backing that crap up" for making a joke about it? You read way too much into things, or you are way too serious about a computer chip.
Actually while I dont like your posts, and I dont agree with a lot of what youve said, your right in this respect. These are blatent pot shots at Intel, which actually make chips that are pretty good in the heat department relative to their MHZ. Of course they are also pretty shitty in the speed department relative to their MHZ.
So let us instead make shots about the fact that even though they are huge they can not perform