Next Pentium chip

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
[quote] The next version of the Pentium 4, code-named Prescott, will enhance desktop performance through hyper-threading, among other changes, Intel's Louis Burns, vice president of the Desktop Platforms Group, said at the four-day Intel Developer Forum here. Burns also demonstrated a 4GHz Pentium 4, which should come out sometime next year.

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Sure we all know that the G4 and Pentium chip aren't equal in speed ratings, but something like this will make Macs look even worse to those going by MHz numbers.

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  • Reply 1 of 16
    Bah, MHZ is meaningless. Hell, look at IBM, they are at 100ghz



    AMDs next processer will toast the P4. Sledgehammer baby!



    Oh, right, mac stuff. Well put it this way, no one even sees macs as competitive in the MHZ dept. any more, so this doest really make a difference.



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  • Reply 2 of 16
    Agreed. AMD will put the Hammer down on Intel. Now if only Steve would call them...



    What am I complaining for though?
  • Reply 3 of 16
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Prescott? With a name like that it'll get its ass kicked all over the schoolyard Seriously, what kind of a name is that??



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  • Reply 4 of 16
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    They should have called it Prestone, as in the kind of coolant it'll need to keep it from melting through the case...







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  • Reply 5 of 16
    I still have faith in the G5 as a legitimate 64 bit contender.
  • Reply 6 of 16
    xmogerxmoger Posts: 242member
    [quote]Prescott? With a name like that it'll get its ass kicked all over the schoolyard Seriously, what kind of a name is that??<hr></blockquote>

    Look at oregon in an atlas and you'll probably find out. I like Hammer and Crush better too.
  • Reply 7 of 16
    Ha! Good one, Torifile!
  • Reply 8 of 16
    [quote]Originally posted by xmoger:

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    Look at oregon in an atlas and you'll probably find out. I like Hammer and Crush better too.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah - you have to live in the northwest to know those kind of names. Like Wilammette - that is a river and a valley in Oregon.
  • Reply 9 of 16
    Although I appreciate that the codenames o' these things are picked by virtue o' their resonances in the US market, I should point oot that this particular name isnae withoot its 'hard hitting', 'packs a punch' associations in the UK.



    <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1335000/1335404.stm"; target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1335000/1335404.stm</a>;
  • Reply 10 of 16
    jambojambo Posts: 3,036member
    [quote]Originally posted by Sir Mac o' the Isles:

    <strong>Although I appreciate that the codenames o' these things are picked by virtue o' their resonances in the US market, I should point oot that this particular name isnae withoot its 'hard hitting', 'packs a punch' associations in the UK.



    <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1335000/1335404.stm"; target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1335000/1335404.stm</a></strong><hr></blockquote>;



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> You beat me to it Sir Mac! I was thinking the very same!



    J
  • Reply 11 of 16
    [quote]as in the kind of coolant it'll need to keep it from melting through the case...<hr></blockquote>







    And for good measure...



    It won't use that much power, as the core will likely go through a die shrink before then, as the P7 core has just done -- .18um to .13um technology.



    Please quit spewing crap like this.
  • Reply 12 of 16
    Hey, it's not that far off. Afterall, water-cooled CPU coolers seem to be the "in" thing now for the build-it-yourself PC crowd. What's a little Prestone added in at this point?
  • Reply 13 of 16
    [quote]Hey, it's not that far off.<hr></blockquote>



    Actually, it's ridiculously far off and you're a buffoon for backing that crap up.



    The core will be shrunk before it goes to 4GHz. Prescott is a .09um part codename. Currently the P4 is manufactured at .18um and .13um for the fastest speeds. Shrinking the die will reduce heat further.



    Therefore saying that watercooling will be necessary to cool a .09um part at a clockspeed that will be reached early in that process is stupid as **** all. Saying it would melt the case otherwise is stupid as **** all.



    A 4GHz P4 on .09um will be sufficiently cooled by the retail HSF combo. Now if someone wishes to use more exotic cooling to overclock it that's up to them, but saying it will be required for stock operation is idiocy.
  • Reply 14 of 16
    [quote]Originally posted by TheAlmightyBabaramm:

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    And for good measure...



    It won't use that much power, as the core will likely go through a die shrink before then, as the P7 core has just done -- .18um to .13um technology.



    Please quit spewing crap like this.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Since very few people really have any idea about semiconductors and the industry that makes them, let me explain that feature size tends to decrease much more slowly than the advancement of techniques required to include more transistors on a chip increases.



    So undoubtedly the new Pentium will be bigger than the last unless it is just a reworked version of the same thing, since Intel hasn't done anything algorithmic like RISC with its line.



    Even if it is a reworked version of the last, dropping the feature size to ) 0.11 micron (or 0.10 if they've been doing their homework) it's not going to reduce size or power consumption markedly.



    I don't know what hyper-threading is, but I bet its yet another gimmicky name for a bypassing sequence used in order to reduce/eliminate error in Intel's insanely long pipeline. In which case expect more transistors & more heat.



    Lastly, if you consider 50W to be "not that much power" you and I have differing opinions about power. Sub 5W is "not that much power."



    In conclusion:

    Intel is bound to an architecture right now that prevents them from doing anything cool. Technologically, the next Pentium will be like a really modern car with a 500 cu in '73 El Dorado engine in it. Don't get me wrong: Intel doesn't suck at all, but the Pentium line is way overdue.
  • Reply 15 of 16
    randycat99randycat99 Posts: 1,919member
    [quote]Originally posted by TheAlmightyBabaramm:

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    Actually, it's ridiculously far off and you're a buffoon for backing that crap up.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Geez, take it easy! We can joke a little here, can't we? Obviously we are joking (it is obvious to you, isn't it?). Do you think someone believes it is going to melt through the case? Do you believe I am "backing that crap up" for making a joke about it? You read way too much into things, or you are way too serious about a computer chip.
  • Reply 16 of 16
    Please quit spewing crap like this



    Actually while I dont like your posts, and I dont agree with a lot of what youve said, your right in this respect. These are blatent pot shots at Intel, which actually make chips that are pretty good in the heat department relative to their MHZ. Of course they are also pretty shitty in the speed department relative to their MHZ.



    So let us instead make shots about the fact that even though they are huge they can not perform
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