WatchKit tools reveal Apple Watch screen resolutions, Dynamic Type support, more

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  • Reply 21 of 73
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
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    Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post





    Yep, "endless" until that tiny battery runs out after just a few hours in your wrist. Then you won't even be able to check what time it is; ain't that great for a watch?

    The battery will last more than a few hours, more like a few days for some people. Neither of us know, so why get so negative about something that is completely unknown? Personally, I'm not much of a watch guy and I'm not particularly fond of rectangular watch faces either. In my opinion there are a few other less than ideal design style elements about it but it will probably be useful for some folks. I'll likely pass on this product but I'm not angry or hating it. I don't really need endless possibilities on my wrist. Heck, I only have a dozen or so apps on my iPhone and I get by just fine.

  • Reply 22 of 73
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    The battery will last more than a few hours, more like a few days for some people. Neither of us know, so why get so negative about something that is completely unknown?




    Apple themselves hasn't locked down exact battery life, partially for that reason (and the fact that the hardware isn't finished), they just don't know how people will use it yet. The screen will spend most of its time off, apps vary, etc. Will they measure it in glances? Screen on time? Taps? It's going to be interesting how they decide. Standby time will be the easiest to report.

  • Reply 23 of 73
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    Yep, "endless" until that tiny battery runs out after just a few hours in your wrist. Then you won't even be able to check what time it is; ain't that great for a watch?

    In that case you can just go old school and use the movement of the sun and the stars to tell time. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 24 of 73
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    It's clear that Apple has infinitely more ambition, and infinitely more well thought-out plan than all the knee-jerk Apple Watch hating trolls out there that can't see an inch past their nose. It's all about the SDK and apps, which is why this will be huge. Possibilities are literally endless. 


    I agree.  Success of every computing device / platform always boiled down to the SDK, developers, and the apps.

  • Reply 25 of 73

    Ive uses 'bespoke' frequently, especially about the Watch.

    That's because he's British! It's much more prevalent in British English. According to the OED, it's been used in this way since 1607.
  • Reply 26 of 73
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    That's because he's British! It's much more prevalent in British English. According to the OED, it's been used in this way since 1607.



    Doesn't mean Americans can't use it. Heck, I use aluminium in both pronunciation and spelling. Aluminum makes you sound like you're slurring the word.

  • Reply 27 of 73
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    Ive uses 'bespoke' frequently, especially about the Watch.


     

    Yes, but it's often redundant when AI invokes it.  It adds nothing to the context of most AI sentences, except a certain floridness.

     

    It was nice the first time or two, then my gut reaction shifted to "oh, that again".  :rolleyes:

  • Reply 28 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Talk about a fugly UI. Thanks Samsung.

    [IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/2jahsfs.jpg[/IMG]
  • Reply 29 of 73
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    Talk about a fugly UI. Thanks Samsung.



    2jahsfs.jpg



    I thought that was the Microsoft KIN. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

     

    You can see that's a clear example of forcing a phone UI on a watch.

  • Reply 30 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member

    I thought that was the Microsoft KIN. :lol:

    You can see that's a clear example of forcing a phone UI on a watch.

    Using a keyboard on a watch is a big FAIL.
  • Reply 31 of 73
    canukstorm wrote: »
    In that case you can just go old school and use the movement of the sun and the stars to tell time. :lol:

    Nope, I stick with my RADO; one battery change in what, five years?
  • Reply 32 of 73
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member
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    It's interestingly very very similar to Roboto Google uses. 

     


    I realize that you're just reposting what someone tweeted, but that's a really poor way to compare two fonts.  And I would bet any amount of money against the notion that Apple copied Roboto.  It would be interesting to see samples of the same text side by side (vertically) rather than superimposed on top of one another.  But even with this example, you can see differences.

  • Reply 33 of 73
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,355member
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    What I find so amusing is when ?Watch was announced many people were concerned that it had an SDK. Ben Thompson was a prominent tech writer who initially said there shouldn't be one. There were posts on sites like MacRumors join a screenshot of the original iPhone saying that's what ?Watch should have been. Now that the SDK is out I'm seeing complaints on Twitter, MacRumors etc. because native apps won't be available immediately, that ?Watch is is just an expensive remote display, blah blah blah. Ok people make up your f'ng minds. Or are you just going to piss on Apple no matter what it does. image

     

    Then Ben Thompson is an idiot. Anyone with any long term insight would be able to ascertain that an SDK is critical for long term health, adoption, support, and success. But clearly he wasn't thinking as big as Apple. 

  • Reply 34 of 73
    brlawyer wrote: »
    Yep, "endless" until that tiny battery runs out after just a few hours in your wrist. Then you won't even be able to check what time it is; ain't that great for a watch?

    Can't tell if trolling, but I'll bite. I'm not expecting fabulous battery life, but dying after "a few hours" is an exaggeration. A full day is really all we can expect from this class of device at this time. But so what? We traded in our 5-day Nokias for 5-hour iPhones in 2007 because it did so much more. I'll charge it when I get home from work or when I go to sleep, just like I currently take off my Timex and charge my iPhone at night.

    If all you want is time, then obviously go buy a $20 watch and the battery will last you years. Or wait two years. If past is prelude, it will be half the price, a third thinner, 20x more powerful, and do things we aren't even imagining.
  • Reply 35 of 73
    slurpy wrote: »
    Then Ben Thompson is an idiot. Anyone with any long term insight would be able to ascertain that an SDK is critical for long term health, adoption, support, and success. But clearly he wasn't thinking as big as Apple. 

    Thompson admitted it took him a bit to get the Watch, he's bullish on it now.

    Can't tell if trolling, but I'll bite. I'm not expecting fabulous battery life, but dying after "a few hours" is an exaggeration. A full day is really all we can expect from this class of device at this time. But so what? We traded in our 5-day Nokias for 5-hour iPhones in 2007 because it did so much more. I'll charge it when I get home from work or when I go to sleep, just like I currently take off my Timex and charge my iPhone at night.

    If all you want is time, then obviously go buy a $20 watch and the battery will last you years. Or wait two years. If past is prelude, it will be half the price, a third thinner, 20x more powerful, and do things we aren't even imagining.

    He's a troll.
  • Reply 36 of 73
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    Then Ben Thompson is an idiot. Anyone with any long term insight would be able to ascertain that an SDK is critical for long term health, adoption, support, and success. But clearly he wasn't thinking as big as Apple. 


    Ironic part is, is that he used to work at Apple in the Apple University division,  if I'm not mistaken.

  • Reply 37 of 73
    rogifan wrote: »
    Using a keyboard on a watch is a big FAIL.

    It'll just make samsung gear fans lust for larger and larger watches until they are six inches across and look like a Galaxy Note 4 strapped to your forearm. Then, and only then will the circle of wearable stupidity be complete.
  • Reply 38 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    slurpy wrote: »
    Then Ben Thompson is an idiot. Anyone with any long term insight would be able to ascertain that an SDK is critical for long term health, adoption, support, and success. But clearly he wasn't thinking as big as Apple. 

    To be fair he did change his mind and now says SDK is necessary. But then you have that clown Nilay Patel at the Verge who lists every conceivable interaction whit the watch and says its too much even though the majority of users will probably use only a few of them. The main interactions with ?Watch will be swiping (glances), tap, force tap (contextual menus) and the digital crown. I think most people will be able to figure that out. And certain things like force tap probably won't be used that frequently.
  • Reply 39 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    canukstorm wrote: »
    Ironic part is, is that he used to work at Apple in the Apple University division,  if I'm not mistaken.

    He interned at Apple and also worked at Microsoft for a while.
  • Reply 40 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Here are some first impressions from a developer.

    http://david-smith.org/blog/2014/11/18/initial-impressions-for-watchkit/
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