Tallest Skill: What's that Perian Alternative that you said someone out there is developing?

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in Genius Bar edited November 2014

If I got it right that is. Can't seem to find it for the life of me, nor the thread here about it. 

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  • Reply 1 of 5
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,807moderator
    Perian should still work under Quicktime Pro but for Quicklook previews, you'd have to use something like the following:

    https://github.com/Marginal/QLVideo/releases/tag/rel-170
    https://github.com/Marginal/QLVideo

    It won't let you play the videos in Quicktime X the way Perian did with Quicktime Pro, it's just for the previews. You'd have to open them in a program like VLC or Quicktime Pro + Perian for playback.
  • Reply 2 of 5

    Oh, hi. I dunno. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

     

    Were they? I can’t remember things more than a few minutes. I know had Perian work wonderfully up to the last GM of Yosemite. It would even play WebM files inline (or on their own page) in Safari. The release, however, doesn’t do that, and I’ve just decided to stop using it in favor of HandBrake-ing all files that QuickTime/iTunes can’t play. Not that there are many, but...

  • Reply 3 of 5
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Mplayer is the closest alternative but I've always used VLC. http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayerosx/
  • Reply 4 of 5
    shsfshsf Posts: 302member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post



    Perian should still work under Quicktime Pro but for Quicklook previews, you'd have to use something like the following:



    https://github.com/Marginal/QLVideo/releases/tag/rel-170

    https://github.com/Marginal/QLVideo



    It won't let you play the videos in Quicktime X the way Perian did with Quicktime Pro, it's just for the previews. You'd have to open them in a program like VLC or Quicktime Pro + Perian for playback.



    At least preview playback is something, it's a lot actually. But you mean to get qt pro from an older os x release add perian and have it play on OS 10.10? Can you actually do that? Not that I would but just saying. I am not so sure anymore what QT X won't play btw, seems erratic, some seemingly properly encoded mp4 or m4v files don't play at all. In any case I 've gone mplayer and vlc too, but it's good to just shoot quicktime for simplicity's sake now and then.

     

    Never really gotten around to replace it as default open with, maybe it's time I guess. What exactly broke compatibility? There are no apparent changes to quicktime x in yosemite, not that I remember at least from the dev notes, although something starts to ring a small bell somewhere in my head.

  • Reply 5 of 5
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,807moderator
    shsf wrote: »
    you mean to get qt pro from an older os x release add perian and have it play on OS 10.10? Can you actually do that?

    Quicktime 7 is reported to work in Yosemite. You can try it for free:

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/D3380Z/A/quicktime-7-pro-for-mac-os-x

    The Pro version needs to be unlocked but that's for import/export. After installing Perian, once Quicktime 7 is relaunched, it should play all older formats like before. VLC is good for playback as you can set custom keys for skip as well as subtitles, audio sync in real-time and other things. Quicktime Pro is useful as you can take an MP4 and add a few in/out points, cut parts out, basically do an entire quick edit like FCP and save as self-contained so it doesn't have to re-encode.

    I don't even mind the lack of plugin support with Quicktime X but I really wish they'd add some of the editing features back in and go a little beyond the old one. The old Quicktime didn't apply bright/contrast/tint adjustments on export, it just saved them, this could be done in the new one.
    shsf wrote: »
    What exactly broke compatibility? There are no apparent changes to quicktime x in yosemite, not that I remember at least from the dev notes, although something starts to ring a small bell somewhere in my head.

    They deprecated the Quicktime APIs (Carbon, 32-bit) and moved to AV Foundation:

    https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/technotes/tn2300/_index.html

    The old API was C code so they had to move to Objective-C. I don't mind the move but I would prefer if they'd keep legacy formats supported for decoding only. There's not much need to encode into them any more but decode is useful and just have a simple editor. The yellow block trim interface is cumbersome with splitting clips and then deleting chunks. They used to let you just set in and out points and you could play just the selection to make sure the selection is right as well as move the in/out markers frame by frame. They also had an optional frame counter, which is really useful. I also wish they wouldn't overlap the UI. They can still fade it but only overlap the top bar if the movie is too high up, otherwise put the controls outside of the video the way Quicklook does it. Dynamic aspect ratio change would be a nice feature to have too.
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