Apple rumored to start Apple Watch sales in March, retail training in February

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  • Reply 41 of 73
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    syrran wrote: »
    The Edsel.

    I think you are on the wrong bog. Edsel jokes are for the Microsoft blog.
  • Reply 42 of 73
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    mpantone wrote: »

    No, but a watch is a piece of jewelry. Jewelry is far more frequently gifted for certain holidays and personal celebrations (birthdays, graduations, anniversaries).

    I'm not sure you can lump birthdays in with 'certain holidays' from a date perspective, they tend to be pretty spread out randomly.
  • Reply 43 of 73
    mpantone wrote: »

    No, but a watch is a piece of jewelry. Jewelry is far more frequently gifted for certain holidays and personal celebrations (birthdays, graduations, anniversaries).

    I'm not sure you can lump birthdays in with 'certain holidays' from a date perspective, they tend to be pretty spread out randomly.

    I guess if your birthday is April 1st, then you're a prime contender for the Apple Watch.
  • Reply 44 of 73
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,040member
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post



    I'm not sure you can lump birthdays in with 'certain holidays' from a date perspective, they tend to be pretty spread out randomly.

     

    Of course not.

     

    That's why I parenthetically listed birthdays and anniversaries under "personal celebrations".

     

    Even graduations aren't really a set date (like St. Valentine's Day), they're more of a month-long "season" of graduations (depending on school, semester vs. trimester, etc.).

     

    I'm just pointing out the typical occasions that jewelry is gifted.

  • Reply 45 of 73
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,326moderator
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    The loop graph shown there is a daily graph and they plan to have an overview app available on the iPhone:

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    I think they can show aggregate data on a single view on the watch. They just split the single full circle into arcs that make up the period of time for each activity. That not only gives you the data seen on the iPhone but it allows you to collapse the activity data to see over a long period which activity is lacking most over a period.

    It's an example where they seem to be relegating the Watch to a sidekick instead of making full use of its potential. Making it so that you don't need the phone with you isn't going to encourage people to stop buying a phone because gaming, photos, e-commerce, browsing and social media are things the Watch will never do well.
  • Reply 46 of 73
    pistispistis Posts: 247member
    Here starts the tech media hype on the apple watch, the rally will start soon I guess.? It will eventually filter up from the sewer to the mainstream press ! It always does all is as it should be, wiser heads know better
  • Reply 47 of 73
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,102member
    The Activite watch blows the i Watch out of the water, design wise (and has an 8 month battery life). But iWatch does seem to have more functionality (as long as you carry your iPhone with you). Though I don't believe iWatch is water proof, so it can't track your swimming like the Activite. I'll be going with Swiss made this time around. [IMG ALT=""]http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/53978/width/350/height/700[/IMG]
  • Reply 48 of 73
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    tyler82 wrote: »
    The Activite watch blows the i Watch out of the water, design wise (and has an 8 month battery life). But iWatch does seem to have more functionality (as long as you carry your iPhone with you). Though I don't believe iWatch is water proof, so it can't track your swimming like the Activite. I'll be going with Swiss made this time around. 700

    First off, it's not iWatch. Second, how does this blow anything out of the water? Because it has a round display? Looks like a cheap Timex I could get at Target
  • Reply 49 of 73
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,326moderator
    rogifan wrote: »
    how does this blow anything out of the water? Because it has a round display? Looks like a cheap Timex I could get at Target

    The Pop version is a cheap watch at $150, there's a $450 Swiss made version:


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    The majority of watches sold are very cheap. This tells the time, looks nice, is cheap, not bulky, has 8 months of battery life, will inform you of notifications and tracks fitness activity. If that's all people are looking for in a watch, it will be a good option. If it was able to show notification text and fitness data, that would be even better, say the cover glass was like electro-chromic glass that frosted over into a darker grey and maybe a white pinpoint laser projected a message into it from behind with basic touch input. With touch, it could even let you wind the clock hands back to adjust to a different time manually. It looks like it has no buttons at all and it says it sets up the time automatically. With 8 months of battery life, it's a watch you can throw on your wrist and forget about. Other smartwatches are going to need higher maintenance.

    Apple could have done away with buttons entirely too and made it completely waterproof. They could have had it so that pressing both sides of the watch is the home button. They could have had more than 2 inputs with no buttons at all and a touch side vs the crown. Run a finger down the right side and it zooms in a map, back zooms out.

    I wonder if they made multiple prototypes like they used to do and picked the best or if they settled on the current design and just stuck with it. I imagine they'd want to keep making the form factor slimmer but the button design is limiting to that and they've made it such an important part of the device.
  • Reply 50 of 73
    stevehsteveh Posts: 480member
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    Originally Posted by pistis View Post





    Well yes you are correct but there are some things it will do like nudge your wrist when you get a particular call or when using maps it will nudge you to take a left or right. There are times when it's inappropriate to use iPhone like in a theatre. At a biz meeting and maps function allows us to not look like a tourist when navigating. The silent notification feature is the killer app imho



    Out here it's -10F, -33F windchill, and my iPhone is a couple layers in from the outside. Forget about quickly getting to the phone with gloves on... wait until you're inside to check email.

     

    Checking your watch is a lot easier, even with gloves on, and silent notifications could obviate the need to visually check at least some of the time.

     

    Meanwhile, I was driving yesterday with the iPhone in a charging cradle on the dash, and when I went to check something, a thermometer popped up on the screen with a message to wait for the phone to cool down before using it. Maybe someone forget to set the out of bounds temp warning to check whether it was over or under temp?

  • Reply 51 of 73
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,102member
    rogifan wrote: »
    First off, it's not iWatch. Second, how does this blow anything out of the water? Because it has a round display? Looks like a cheap Timex I could get at Target

    You clearly have no taste. Designed in France, made in Switzerland (not a Chinese labor camp by a 9 months pregnant slave), sapphire display, made of steel alloy with calfskin leather wrist strap (also rubber for sporting activities). Water proof up to 50 meters (can't even shower with the iWatch). Super thin. Makes iWatch look thick and clunky by comparison. Don't need your iPhone with you to use it.

    Oh, and 8. Month. Battery life.
  • Reply 52 of 73
    rogifan wrote: »
    <p>Benedict Evans posted this on Twitter from CES. The Chinese really have no shame.</p><p> </p><p>700

    And no originality.
  • Reply 53 of 73
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    And no originality.

     

    Remember the aught eight housing thingy?

     

    China’s is due between 10-20 years from now. I can’t see them surviving it. That’s what you get for copying!

  • Reply 54 of 73
    dobbydobby Posts: 797member

    I think the Apple Watch will be a great nice to have for use for fitness stuff. I have one of those chest heart rate monitor bands that sends a signal to watch but it would be far easier if it just had a wrist based monitor. I also don't like having to have an arm band on or waist band holder for my iphone (6plus is not convient as a gym device except to use as a weight) as its just a bit to big to be strapped to you.

    I also see it being useful in meetings. You can leave your phone in your pocket as a notification on your wrist can be looked at far more subtly than with your phone.

    My iphone can do everything and more than my ipad but I still use my ipad as its a bigger device. The Apple watch might be the same, it means you have to take out your phone a bit less as you can check time, messages etc at a glance which would be convenient, especially when on the go.

    I hope the sports version is water proof for a few meters as it would be good to have for swiming, surfing, boating etc.

    Haven't really seen much info on how it tethers to the iphone though. The Samsung thingy has a sim card so you can use the its apple watch ripoff without having to have your phone with you.

     

    Dobby

  • Reply 55 of 73
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    rogifan wrote: »
    <p>Benedict Evans posted this on Twitter from CES. The Chinese really have no shame.</p><p> </p><p>700

    Shameless, but not unexpected. The real benefit of Apple's engineering is that the smaller and finer details of ?Watch will make it even harder to copy than their other products. I don't see any path that will lead them to even be in the same ballpark with same battery life, size and performance.
  • Reply 56 of 73
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AWilliams87 View Post

     

    I still just don't get it. If you have phone, why would you want a watch, much less a smartwatch? All of it's functions are the same as your phone, albeit in a much smaller screen, thus less friendly. When I receive a notification, I want to pull out my phone and check twitter and read my email in the mean time.




    When a person's hands are occupied dragging out a phone from it's storage to get a quick glance at any variety of information or notifications is either awkward, impossible or dangerous: so a wrist worn device offers access a phone doesn't under some user scenarios.

     

    For instance I'm completely aware my phone makes wearing a timepiece a total duplication: but I work in a lab where my hands are often gloved for safety and then it's either strip off the gloves and pull out the phone or risk contaminating the phone to gain access to it: while my wrist is a flick of my lab coat cuff away. Now I'm not familiar enough with the Apple product to know how much is available "hands free" or with minimal contact, but that ease of access, like with a wrist worn device of any sort, could be a benefit for people in my circumstance or anyone who get's their hands dirty to the point touching a phone is a problem.... or lives where it gets cold and people wear gloves for that.Out doing chores and carrying things in both hands? Etc.

     

    There's a new function aspect but it's also about providing those functions in a different, more accessible for some, manner. Pocket watches got replaced by wrist devices under the same evolution I'd suggest.

  • Reply 57 of 73
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tyler82 View Post





    You clearly have no taste. Designed in France, made in Switzerland (not a Chinese labor camp by a 9 months pregnant slave), sapphire display, made of steel alloy with calfskin leather wrist strap (also rubber for sporting activities). Water proof up to 50 meters (can't even shower with the iWatch). Super thin. Makes iWatch look thick and clunky by comparison. Don't need your iPhone with you to use it.



    Oh, and 8. Month. Battery life.



    And as you alluded: the con that the 8. Month. Battery. Life. comes at the cost of . Hardly. Any. Functionality. (With, irony alert, that little functionality, basically an activity monitor and that's it, accessed through it's, wait for it, Apple iPhone App, and it even relies on the iPhone for the correct time! per it's copy). As process consumes power. Also I'd love to see the small print defining how you get that 8 months. I wonder if it were to be like the Kindle where they tout "30 DAYS!" and then down in the details they explain that's when used only an hour on any one of those "days"... Which I think is unnecessary because 30 hours (or whatever it calculates to) is a really decent use time. Just not the eye popping Thirty. Days. of the headline.

    http://www.withings.com/us/withings-activite.html

  • Reply 58 of 73
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,102member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post

     



    And as you alluded: the con that the 8. Month. Battery. Life. comes at the cost of . Hardly. Any. Functionality. As process consumes power. Also I'd love to see the small print defining how you get that 8 months. I wonder if it were to be like the Kindle where they tout "30 DAYS!" and then down in the details they explain that's when used only an hour on any one of those "days"... Which I think is unnecessary because 30 hours (or whatever it calculates to) is a really decent use time. Just not the eye popping Thirty. Days. of the headline.




    Yeah because functionality including checking Facebook and reading text messages on a 1 inch screen with your wrist up to your nose is totally worth the hundreds of dollars premium (oh, and having to have your iPhone with you at all times to do any of this. Great functionality! [or lack thereof]). That was sarcasm by the way.

     

    The Activite is incredibly simple. I don't need to check the weather on my watch when I have to have the phone with me at all times that does the same thing anyway. I'll just carry my phone and save $500 on a wrist weight.

    It also has a ton of functionality. It tracks your sleep, walking, running, calories burned, metabolic activity level, swimming. For. Eight. Months. All of this is synced and stored just like the iWatch. It has a silent alarm.

    Then when you need a battery, buy one for $2. I'll spend $2 a year for the convenience of not having to unlatch my "activity tracker" from my body every 8 hours (what kind of activity is the iWatch tracking anyway when 1 to 2 hours out of every day it can't even be attached to you to track anything?) 

     

    It is what the Apple Watch should have been- simple, beautiful, elegant. 

  • Reply 59 of 73
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    Mothers and Fathers are too old for Apple Watch...they can barely use iPhone sync...lol. I don't think Apple Watch will be a great gift on Father/Mother's day.


    So they are for spoiled little brats like yourself?

  • Reply 60 of 73
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    tyler82 wrote: »
    Designed in France, made in Switzerland (not a Chinese labor camp by a 9 months pregnant slave)

    1) Pregnant women aren't allowed to work in Switzerland or are you against women working?

    2) How can one be a slave when they have a choice to leave? Do they hold their IDs and threaten to kill them or their families if they leave?

    Water proof up to 50 meters (can't even shower with the iWatch).

    You can't? Where did you get this info?
    Don't need your iPhone with you to use it.

    You do? Where did you get this info?
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