"0.8 millimeters thinner than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus."
Hopefully, this will help to break Apple's silly obsession with thiner and thiner iPhones. What others can do can't be that special.
The thinner they are, the greater the need users feel to place them in cases. I tell friends that mine%u2014inside a sturdy Otter Defender case%u2014looks like something combat troops would use. Someone would have to look very close to tell that it's an iPhone 5.
I wonder if it would bend ... " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
32-bit hardware with low resolution screen, OMG, this is another DOA. It's just another attempt at iPhone but fails miserably. 32-bit CPU is not acceptable for 2015 devices. Where is the android L?
Comes out a full 4 months after Apple's product, and is 0.8mm thinner. Wow, absolutely mind-blowing.
I sometimes wonder if trolls like you ever get tired of trolling, then I realize that would take all purpose out of your lives.
1. Thinness is not Apple's "gold standard". It's just one metric of their incredible engineering and focus on design and beauty. This phone, aesthetically, looks like shit- so Apple did not get "bested" because its imperceptively thinner.
2. The iPhone 6+ has no bending "issues', but keep beating that dead horse. And of course Samsung won't face any heat. When have they ever, with all the despicable, shady things they've done? Heat is reserved for Apple.
Let's be honest here. That "imperceptible" difference, if done by Apple, would be marketed as "12% thinner that the iPhone 6, a remarkable feat of engineering."
For the record, I don't need my phone to be any thinner, just calling a spade a spade.
Hey look I see a bigger version of the iPhone 5! Called an A7 no less. They can use an iPhone 6 Plus body if they want and it will still be crap software.
I was thinking the same thing. What are they going to call their next phone? The Samsung Galaxy IOs A8 Swift Metal?! Geez.
I know that Apple likes thin products but I don't think it's just for aesthetic reasons. I figured it was a matter of saving money on materials. The thinner it is the less waste of materials which lowers the cost. Since Apple uses aluminum cases, there's less machining to do and less raw materials to use. I'd rather Apple made thicker devices to put larger batteries in them, but I think Apple has figured out that there is a certain optimal battery life for a particular device weight that satisfies most consumers. I'm only guessing there must be some reason other than simple design factors. In this case of you saying Apple got bested on thinness unless Samsung can get equal or better battery life out of this design, there's no win for consumers or Samsung. At some point there has to be a low limit in thinness. A smartphone seems to be harder or uncomfortable to hold when it gets but so thin based on my experience. I'd be perfectly happy with a smartphone 3/8 of an inch thick especially if they could load it down with more battery.
I always wondered whether the materials such as the aluminium on the phones played that big of a part on the costs. Given the volume of aluminium used on products such as the MacBooks and iPads relative to the iPhone 6.. It's really negligible.. You could probably machine a good few iPhones from a slab of iPad and for sure many more from the iMac or the old MacPro chassis. Given the grade of aluminium may be different in quality but still... It's probably the technology on the phones that is most valuable.
Hell how many iPhones could be machined from the raw materials that constitute from a vehicle.
"0.8 millimeters thinner than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus."
Hopefully, this will help to break Apple's silly obsession with thiner and thiner iPhones. What others can do can't be that special.
The thinner they are, the greater the need users feel to place them in cases. I tell friends that mine%u2014inside a sturdy Otter Defender case%u2014looks like something combat troops would use. Someone would have to look very close to tell that it's an iPhone 5.
Maybe that was Apples plan... Make the phones as thin as possible so that people would splash out further for cases.. The margins on those things are ridiculous!
1) Is that an active octo-core or a big.LITTLE arrangement?
2) I was surprised to see there is no 802.11ac.
If this article is correct, then the Exynos could be regarded as big.little, but it sounds like the Snapdragon is just slow.slower (that is, all the same cores, just clocked at two different speeds).
Seriously folks, these SOCs suck. Samsung would do better to just buy up old iPhones 5s, rip the A7s out of them, and use those in their "new" phone. I wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi were to do exactly that (plenty of other useful components in the 5s, too... battery, NAND, camera, to name a few).
Wow! It's almost a full millimeter thinner than Apple's flagship. Apple must be fuming that anyone could out-thin them.
What a stupid metric Apple has gleaned onto ... I have no idea who thinks this is important, but Apple has made it their gold standard, and just got bested.
I do wonder whether this phone is going to have he same bending issues the Plus did however, and whether Samsung will face the same kind of heat for it ...
The iPhone 6+ never had bending issues. I'm a big guy and sit on my phone and... no problems. Invented "gate" for media attention.
I would suspect that the material cost of aluminum is a minor matter. The iPhone 6 masses 129 grams total. Figure maybe 10 - 20 grams of aluminum at about 2 cents per gram.
In this case of you saying Apple got bested on thinness unless Samsung can get equal or better battery life out of this design, there's no win for consumers or Samsung.
Everything you say could be absolutely correct. However, Apple DOES focus a large part of their marketing on the thinness of their devices. An absurd amount of attention IMO. As long as APPLE makes thinness a major feature of their marketing, and NOT battery life, then the public will never see your concerns, at least as far as marketing and advertising is concerned. All they will know is that "THIN is IN", and Samsung just knocked Apple's crowning achievement out of the ballpark. Will they even think to ask how long the battery life is when they're in the phone store? Probably not.
I remember seeing two rich guys comparing their cellphones back around 2000, each bragging about how small their phones were (when such things were in vogue). They weren't talking about how good the battery life was, nor how good the reception was, they just whipped them out of their pockets and started comparing the size right there in the room with the rest of us. And that's the game Apple is playing at the moment.
An A7? Seriously, Sammy? Does your "A" stand for Asshole?
Shouldn't that be 'seriously ARM?' Perhaps the A in ARM stands for arsehole?
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Cortex-A7 Processor
The ARM® Cortex®-A7 MPCore™ processor is the most power-efficient application processor ARM has ever developed
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Ding, ding, ding! It is a little disingenuous to describe a big.LITTLE processor as an 8 processor phone since only the big (1.5GHz) or the LITTLE (1.0Ghz) is active at any time. So basically it's a .2GHz bump from previous models. Big deal.
Ding, ding indeed - the 5430 uses HMP. (Heterogeneous Multi-Processing), so try again.
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For those not familiar, there are three big.LITTLE models, core switching, in which any of the A7 and A15 cores can be swapped, cluster switching, in which either all A7s or all A15s can be swapped, or HMP, where the kernel is aware of all cores and can schedule threads to any of the cores all at once. This final model is coming to Exynos 5420 by the end of Q4 2013 and will be available to partners shipping product based on its reference platform.
ARM gave us a chance to take a look at the HMP enabled Exynos 5420 reference platform running through a few demos, showing the kernel swapping in and out A7s and A15 cores as system workload changed.
Sam, Do advertising much? That is all this piece really was, just an ad for vaporware. When the samsung ships, we will see what it has.
PS to comments. A Hall effect transistor / sensor is just a transistor that has a gate that responds to a magnetic field. Bring a magnet near and it turns off or on. An electric current thru a loop will make a magnetic field, but if you already have an electric current, why not use it to activate your transistor, much less current needed than create a magnetic field.
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"0.8 millimeters thinner than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus."
Hopefully, this will help to break Apple's silly obsession with thiner and thiner iPhones. What others can do can't be that special.
The thinner they are, the greater the need users feel to place them in cases. I tell friends that mine%u2014inside a sturdy Otter Defender case%u2014looks like something combat troops would use. Someone would have to look very close to tell that it's an iPhone 5.
I wonder if it would bend ...
32-bit hardware with low resolution screen, OMG, this is another DOA. It's just another attempt at iPhone but fails miserably. 32-bit CPU is not acceptable for 2015 devices. Where is the android L?
And seriously, you named it A7? Can Samsung do anything but copy Apple?
It's an attempt to one-up Apple. Apple only has the iPhone 6, we are up to 7, see! But they forgot that the latest Apple CPU is called A8.
They also have other phones called A3 and A5 (not available in the US, info here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-compares-the-Galaxy-A7-A5-and-A3-in-new-infographic_id64718). So it can be seen as an attempt to copy BMW, using Audi moniker.
Samsung, even in their thief costume, is still a terrible failure.
It's only a silly obsession when Apple makes a thin phone.
Let's be honest here. That "imperceptible" difference, if done by Apple, would be marketed as "12% thinner that the iPhone 6, a remarkable feat of engineering."
For the record, I don't need my phone to be any thinner, just calling a spade a spade.
Hey look I see a bigger version of the iPhone 5! Called an A7 no less. They can use an iPhone 6 Plus body if they want and it will still be crap software.
I was thinking the same thing. What are they going to call their next phone? The Samsung Galaxy IOs A8 Swift Metal?! Geez.
Just pondering...
I always wondered whether the materials such as the aluminium on the phones played that big of a part on the costs. Given the volume of aluminium used on products such as the MacBooks and iPads relative to the iPhone 6.. It's really negligible.. You could probably machine a good few iPhones from a slab of iPad and for sure many more from the iMac or the old MacPro chassis. Given the grade of aluminium may be different in quality but still... It's probably the technology on the phones that is most valuable.
Hell how many iPhones could be machined from the raw materials that constitute from a vehicle.
Maybe that was Apples plan... Make the phones as thin as possible so that people would splash out further for cases.. The margins on those things are ridiculous!
What it needs is a halitosis effect sensor and a kitchen sink sensor. Oh you think I'm joking, but Samsung would do it. They would.
1) Is that an active octo-core or a big.LITTLE arrangement?
2) I was surprised to see there is no 802.11ac.
If this article is correct, then the Exynos could be regarded as big.little, but it sounds like the Snapdragon is just slow.slower (that is, all the same cores, just clocked at two different speeds).
Seriously folks, these SOCs suck. Samsung would do better to just buy up old iPhones 5s, rip the A7s out of them, and use those in their "new" phone. I wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi were to do exactly that (plenty of other useful components in the 5s, too... battery, NAND, camera, to name a few).
:rolleyes:
Wow! It's almost a full millimeter thinner than Apple's flagship. Apple must be fuming that anyone could out-thin them.
What a stupid metric Apple has gleaned onto ... I have no idea who thinks this is important, but Apple has made it their gold standard, and just got bested.
I do wonder whether this phone is going to have he same bending issues the Plus did however, and whether Samsung will face the same kind of heat for it ...
The iPhone 6+ never had bending issues. I'm a big guy and sit on my phone and... no problems. Invented "gate" for media attention.
I would suspect that the material cost of aluminum is a minor matter. The iPhone 6 masses 129 grams total. Figure maybe 10 - 20 grams of aluminum at about 2 cents per gram.
In this case of you saying Apple got bested on thinness unless Samsung can get equal or better battery life out of this design, there's no win for consumers or Samsung.
Everything you say could be absolutely correct. However, Apple DOES focus a large part of their marketing on the thinness of their devices. An absurd amount of attention IMO. As long as APPLE makes thinness a major feature of their marketing, and NOT battery life, then the public will never see your concerns, at least as far as marketing and advertising is concerned. All they will know is that "THIN is IN", and Samsung just knocked Apple's crowning achievement out of the ballpark. Will they even think to ask how long the battery life is when they're in the phone store? Probably not.
I remember seeing two rich guys comparing their cellphones back around 2000, each bragging about how small their phones were (when such things were in vogue). They weren't talking about how good the battery life was, nor how good the reception was, they just whipped them out of their pockets and started comparing the size right there in the room with the rest of us. And that's the game Apple is playing at the moment.
Samsung is clearly losing money so rapidly it can't afford to innovate in ways that actually make a difference (other than marketing to the naive
).
An A7? Seriously, Sammy? Does your "A" stand for Asshole?
Shouldn't that be 'seriously ARM?' Perhaps the A in ARM stands for arsehole?
Cortex-A7 Processor
The ARM® Cortex®-A7 MPCore™ processor is the most power-efficient application processor ARM has ever developedDing, ding, ding! It is a little disingenuous to describe a big.LITTLE processor as an 8 processor phone since only the big (1.5GHz) or the LITTLE (1.0Ghz) is active at any time. So basically it's a .2GHz bump from previous models. Big deal.
Ding, ding indeed - the 5430 uses HMP. (Heterogeneous Multi-Processing), so try again.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7313/samsung-announces-biglittle-mp-support-in-exynos-5420
Do advertising much? That is all this piece really was, just an ad for vaporware. When the samsung ships, we will see what it has.
PS to comments. A Hall effect transistor / sensor is just a transistor that has a gate that responds to a magnetic field. Bring a magnet near and it turns off or on. An electric current thru a loop will make a magnetic field, but if you already have an electric current, why not use it to activate your transistor, much less current needed than create a magnetic field.
Just saying.