I either wave my hand over my phone if I don 't feel like picking it up or I simply pick it up if there's some action I want to perform. . Sensor of the back is common sense if it's primary purpose is identity verification for payments. Only one hand needed, the one you're already holding your phone with. What benefit is there to making the phone larger/taller just to fit yet something else on the face?
Go out and buy an iPhone to try the Touch ID. You don't know the fck what you're talking about. Arguing on things you've never used making you look like an idiot.
It's funny how that out of all the Android phone makers out there, only Huawei has come out with a fingerprint sensor that is even close to Apple's. Samsung's swipe style is flat-out horrible.
Samsung only came out with a fingerprint sensor at the time it did solely to keep up with Apple. Taking the time (like TouchID) to get it right requires actual software skill which Samsung lacks. So they did what they always do... slap on some horrible, unreliable tech, put it out to market and claim (i.e. "Lie") that they are innovators and not copyists.
Samsung's implementation of it is so bad, is shameful. I have to wonder if the Samsung execs ever actually sat down during the prototyping stage and say "Yeah, this sucks...". It's boggles my mind that someone would approve it knowing they are producing millions of devices using a tech that frankly, no one will use. That's embarrassing. Samsung has zero shame and ethics.
Seriously? Two hands? I've NEVER used two hands to unlock my 5S, and every iPhone 6 owner I know at work does it with one hand with no issue...
Yep. I remove it from my pocket, gripping it by the Home button and clicking it once, and that unlocks it by the time it gets up to where I can use it. With iOS your thumb usually rests near the button anyway.
Sensor on the back makes a lot of sense to me. Where is your index finger when you're holding your phone? Making it an even larger phone by adding chin-space for the sensor on the front is what wouldn't make sense. Does it to you?
Judging from your typical comments on AI you are the resident Google guy to keep us all straight while wounding our collective Apple egos aren't you. You're that guy.
With iOS your thumb usually rests near the button anyway.
I don't find that to be the case at all. I find it much faster and more comfortable to use two hands, unless I am carrying something in the other hand.
With the previous iPhone I did much as you suggest and it was not difficult at all, however with the iPhone 6, trying to unlock it using the Touch ID with one hand is awkward because reaching down with the thumb makes the phone seem top heavy to the point I feel like it might slip out of my hand. I usually grip it as shown in this picture and use the index finger of the other hand to unlock it, which is fast and safe. I really don't want to risk dropping the phone.
Since I'm right handed, generally I'm going to be using that same index finger immediately after unlocking to interact with the device. The iPhone 6's extra size has changed my usage pattern somewhat.
I'm not sure what you mean that the thumb is usually near the home button. I certainly don't find that to be the case with my normal use.
I don't find that to be the case at all. I find it much faster and more comfortable to use two hands, unless I am carrying something in the other hand.
With the previous iPhone I did much as you suggest and it was not difficult at all, however with the iPhone 6, trying to unlock it using the Touch ID with one hand is awkward because reaching down with the thumb makes the phone seem top heavy to the point I feel like it might slip out of my hand. I usually grip it as shown in this picture and use the index finger of the other hand to unlock it, which is fast and safe. I really don't want to risk dropping the phone.
Since I'm right handed, generally I'm going to be using that same index finger immediately after unlocking to interact with the device. The iPhone 6's extra size has changed my usage pattern somewhat.
I'm not sure what you mean that the thumb is usually near the home button. I certainly don't find that to be the case with my normal use.
You didn't tell us you had a deformed hand with only three fingers. Now it all makes sense.
Go out and buy an iPhone to try the Touch ID. You don't know the fck what you're talking about. Arguing on things you've never used making you look like an idiot.
That reads like foolishness.
The article is about the Nexus 6 not an iPhone, and my comments were directed at what I think is the best placement for a touch sensor on that particular phablet Android phone. It would seem you might be arguing about a phone you don't own and probably a platform you've never used. What would that make you look like again? :rolleyes:
@ Gator, Admittedly, I have never owned and only very briefly looked at a friend's Android to try to get his email working, but putting a fingerprint reader on the back is just crazy in my opinion.
Mobile devices are always going to be a series of compromises based on battery life, small screen size, hands and fingers, cell data etc. One thing that Apple always pays attention to is consistency. If they were to put a Touch ID on the back of one iPhone they would need to put it on the back of every iPhone and every iPad which would be just idiotic in my opinion. The home button integrated with Touch ID is brilliant. The Android phones that committed to the shallow chin area for the home button, cut off their options to integrate a fingerprint reader into the home button so they had to come up with some other compromise. All of their options were inferior to Apple's implementation.
@ Gator, Admittedly, I have never owned and only very briefly looked at a friend's Android to try to get his email working, but putting a fingerprint reader on the back is just crazy in my opinion.n.
The Nexus 6 is already a very large phone. Android phone don't typically have physical home buttons on the front either, and certainly not relatively large ones. For Apple to add the touch sensor to an existing home button makes good sense. Adding another 3/4" in height to a very large Android phablet only to add a touch sensor doesn't sound like a better solution than making use of already "dead" space in an area that your finger would naturally reside anyway. Am I missing something?
No where near large enough to incorporate a fingerprint sensor. Adding another 1/2-3/4" to accommodate one is not a better solution than adding a sensor to the back where fingers naturally lay anyway. IMHO. Do you really think it's worth creating an even larger footprint?
No where near large enough to incorporate a fingerprint sensor. Adding another 1/2-3/4" to accommodate one is not a better solution than adding a sensor to the back where fingers naturally lay anyway. IMHO. Do you really think it's worth creating an even larger footprint?
Dude get out a ruler. The total space on my iPhone 6 is like a 1/2 inch at most. The Nexus looks like 3/8" guess-timate. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I'm sure the CAD files are online by now. If you want to argue that it requires an additional 3/4" more, you need to go get the actual specs and then lets compare. It is a tiny amount of difference but I'm sure Apple has look and feel patents that would prevent Android manufacturers from duplicating their design so it is a moot point anyway. Let's see how the back case fingerprint reader is adopted by the public. I'm guessing, not so much.
Dude get out a ruler. The total space on my iPhone 6 is like a 1/2 inch at most. The Nexus looks like 3/8" guess-timate. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I'm sure the CAD files are online by now. If you want to argue that it requires an additional 3/4" more, you need to go get the actual specs and then lets compare. It is a tiny amount of difference but I'm sure Apple has look and feel patents that would prevent Android manufacturers from duplicating their design so it is a moot point anyway. Let's see how the back case fingerprint reader is adopted by the public. I'm guessing, not so much.
Then when you find it we can discuss it further. Until then I don't see a reason for either of our opinions to change.
Note the Nexus display is already significantly larger than the quite large 6+ yet both have nearly identical footprints. Again what is the benefit to making the Nexus even larger?
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Whatever tech is behind it, my iPhone 6's fingerprint sensor works quite literally 100% of the time.
Apple nailed it.
This is what I like to see. Shipping a finished, polished, working product.
Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.
I either wave my hand over my phone if I don 't feel like picking it up or I simply pick it up if there's some action I want to perform. . Sensor of the back is common sense if it's primary purpose is identity verification for payments. Only one hand needed, the one you're already holding your phone with. What benefit is there to making the phone larger/taller just to fit yet something else on the face?
Go out and buy an iPhone to try the Touch ID. You don't know the fck what you're talking about. Arguing on things you've never used making you look like an idiot.
It's funny how that out of all the Android phone makers out there, only Huawei has come out with a fingerprint sensor that is even close to Apple's. Samsung's swipe style is flat-out horrible.
Samsung only came out with a fingerprint sensor at the time it did solely to keep up with Apple. Taking the time (like TouchID) to get it right requires actual software skill which Samsung lacks. So they did what they always do... slap on some horrible, unreliable tech, put it out to market and claim (i.e. "Lie") that they are innovators and not copyists.
Samsung's implementation of it is so bad, is shameful. I have to wonder if the Samsung execs ever actually sat down during the prototyping stage and say "Yeah, this sucks...". It's boggles my mind that someone would approve it knowing they are producing millions of devices using a tech that frankly, no one will use. That's embarrassing. Samsung has zero shame and ethics.
Seriously? Two hands? I've NEVER used two hands to unlock my 5S, and every iPhone 6 owner I know at work does it with one hand with no issue...
Yep. I remove it from my pocket, gripping it by the Home button and clicking it once, and that unlocks it by the time it gets up to where I can use it. With iOS your thumb usually rests near the button anyway.
Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.
I usually just wipe my digit on my pants and try again, that tends to fix it.
Judging from your typical comments on AI you are the resident Google guy to keep us all straight while wounding our collective Apple egos aren't you. You're that guy.
I don't find that to be the case at all. I find it much faster and more comfortable to use two hands, unless I am carrying something in the other hand.
With the previous iPhone I did much as you suggest and it was not difficult at all, however with the iPhone 6, trying to unlock it using the Touch ID with one hand is awkward because reaching down with the thumb makes the phone seem top heavy to the point I feel like it might slip out of my hand. I usually grip it as shown in this picture and use the index finger of the other hand to unlock it, which is fast and safe. I really don't want to risk dropping the phone.
Since I'm right handed, generally I'm going to be using that same index finger immediately after unlocking to interact with the device. The iPhone 6's extra size has changed my usage pattern somewhat.
I'm not sure what you mean that the thumb is usually near the home button. I certainly don't find that to be the case with my normal use.
Sounds like you tried putting a lot of square pegs in to round holes when you were a kid...
You didn't tell us you had a deformed hand with only three fingers. Now it all makes sense.
Very funny, no I'm not deformed. The index finger in the picture is hidden because I was trying find the Touch ID on the back of the case. /s
The article is about the Nexus 6 not an iPhone, and my comments were directed at what I think is the best placement for a touch sensor on that particular phablet Android phone. It would seem you might be arguing about a phone you don't own and probably a platform you've never used. What would that make you look like again? :rolleyes:
Mine doesn't. If my finger is wet or if the home button gets greasy I get frequent failures and have to fall back to pin entry.
My paper doesn't work. If my pencil is wet or my paper gets greasy I can't read what I wrote.
@ Gator, Admittedly, I have never owned and only very briefly looked at a friend's Android to try to get his email working, but putting a fingerprint reader on the back is just crazy in my opinion.
Mobile devices are always going to be a series of compromises based on battery life, small screen size, hands and fingers, cell data etc. One thing that Apple always pays attention to is consistency. If they were to put a Touch ID on the back of one iPhone they would need to put it on the back of every iPhone and every iPad which would be just idiotic in my opinion. The home button integrated with Touch ID is brilliant. The Android phones that committed to the shallow chin area for the home button, cut off their options to integrate a fingerprint reader into the home button so they had to come up with some other compromise. All of their options were inferior to Apple's implementation.
It appears that the Nexus 6 has a home button. It would not be an additional 3/4" Maybe additional .25 +/-
No where near large enough to incorporate a fingerprint sensor. Adding another 1/2-3/4" to accommodate one is not a better solution than adding a sensor to the back where fingers naturally lay anyway. IMHO. Do you really think it's worth creating an even larger footprint?
Dude get out a ruler. The total space on my iPhone 6 is like a 1/2 inch at most. The Nexus looks like 3/8" guess-timate. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but I'm sure the CAD files are online by now. If you want to argue that it requires an additional 3/4" more, you need to go get the actual specs and then lets compare. It is a tiny amount of difference but I'm sure Apple has look and feel patents that would prevent Android manufacturers from duplicating their design so it is a moot point anyway. Let's see how the back case fingerprint reader is adopted by the public. I'm guessing, not so much.
Find what? I have an iPhone 6 and a ruler. Do you have a Nexus 6 and a ruler?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
Note the Nexus display is already significantly larger than the quite large 6+ yet both have nearly identical footprints. Again what is the benefit to making the Nexus even larger?
Find what? I have an iPhone 6 and a ruler. Do you have a Nexus 6 and a ruler?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
What a joke. First you have to calibrate your screen which requires a credit card. LOL!