More Android-to-iPhone switchers coming from international markets - report

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  • Reply 21 of 35
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    fallenjt wrote: »
    The main reason for US android folks have not switched to iPhone 6/6+ yet because of the 2-year contract. Many people I know will switch when their contracts end.


    What's a 2 year contract?
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  • Reply 22 of 35
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
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    What's a 2 year contract?

    Yes, ATT and Verizon didn't have non-contract like T-Mo plan until 2014. My wife's iPhone 5S contract with ATT won't end until this Oct.

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  • Reply 23 of 35
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Microsoft has a real interest in Android too now. They've decided to invest in Cyanogen, one of the premier Android modders-turned-forkers. Should be fun times ahead.

    Where did you read that? I honestly think it's a mistake if true.
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  • Reply 24 of 35
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,057member
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    Microsoft has a real interest in Android too now. They've decided to invest in Cyanogen, one of the premier Android modders-turned-forkers. Should be fun times ahead.

    LOL. Are you on drug?

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  • Reply 25 of 35
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,563moderator
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Microsoft has a real interest in Android too now. They've decided to invest in Cyanogen, one of the premier Android modders-turned-forkers. Should be fun times ahead.

    Where did you read that? I honestly think it's a mistake if true.

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/

    It makes sense really:

    "Cyanogen takes the Android source code and modifies it, adding more features and porting it to other devices. It has also started supplying Android builds directly to OEMs (like the OnePlus One), which ship the software on devices instead of stock Android. Last week during a talk in San Francisco, Cyanogen's CEO said the company's goal was to "take Android away from Google." It wants to replace the Google Play ecosystem with apps of its own, the same way that Amazon uses the Android Open Source Project for its Kindle Fire products but adds its own app and content stores.

    Google pushes a lot of requirements on Android OEMs. If they want the Google Play Store, it also forces them to take all other Google products and services. There is also an "anti-fragmentation clause," which forbids OEMs from selling Android devices without Google Play. Cyanogen's Android distributions wouldn't have any such limitations, but then neither would a self-made AOSP build."

    This is the same problem you get with Linux. Once you go open, it's out there and everyone wants to do things their own way. In a way it allows the market to decide what's best but because there are so many competing interests, it just ends as a complete mess. The more that Apple succeeds, the more Android device manufacturers will want to have unique selling points, which means separating themselves from the crowd and breaking compatibility.
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  • Reply 26 of 35
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Marvin wrote: »
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/

    It makes sense really:

    "Cyanogen takes the Android source code and modifies it, adding more features and porting it to other devices. It has also started supplying Android builds directly to OEMs (like the OnePlus One), which ship the software on devices instead of stock Android. Last week during a talk in San Francisco, Cyanogen's CEO said the company's goal was to "take Android away from Google." It wants to replace the Google Play ecosystem with apps of its own, the same way that Amazon uses the Android Open Source Project for its Kindle Fire products but adds its own app and content stores.

    Google pushes a lot of requirements on Android OEMs. If they want the Google Play Store, it also forces them to take all other Google products and services. There is also an "anti-fragmentation clause," which forbids OEMs from selling Android devices without Google Play. Cyanogen's Android distributions wouldn't have any such limitations, but then neither would a self-made AOSP build."

    I still think Microsoft's best chances are with their own OS. Their devices get favorable reviews, and with Android OEMs struggling this could be their opportunity to slowly gain market share, and eventually become a formidable number 2.
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  • Reply 27 of 35
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,563moderator
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    I still think Microsoft's best chances are with their own OS. Their devices get favorable reviews, and with Android OEMs struggling this could be their opportunity to slowly gain market share, and eventually become a formidable number 2.

    Sure, I don't think they intended to use Android, just undermine it. Taking Android away from Google's control would destroy it. No more protected app store, no centralized updating and development. People would abandon it in droves and if they can't afford an iPhone, guess who'd be selling the next best thing.
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  • Reply 28 of 35
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    If this trend continues every quarter soon there will be more iPhone users. But I wonder how Apple will keep up with demand?

    easy. As long as you show them your money. Apple will get their child labors to make one for your. 

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  • Reply 29 of 35

    Interesting. 

     

    In smartphone market; It is pretty much a fight between Apple, Samsung and Xiami. Others are pretty much non-existence.

     

    In tablet (content consumption) market; It is literately owned by Apple. But microsoft's recent Surface line up (focus on productivity) seems to have initial success. Will the rumored iPad pro able to turn the table, like what Apple did with the launch of iPad mini, which subsequently cornered the market?  

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  • Reply 30 of 35
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    easy. As long as you show them your money. Apple will get their child labors to make one for your. 


     

    That was pretty clever for someone who has done no research into facts, but please, do carry on. We need the laughs.

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  • Reply 31 of 35
    That was pretty clever for a troll who has done no research into facts, but please, do carry on. We need the laughs.

    So now we need a PhD to post a comment? Take it easy, dickhead.
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  • Reply 32 of 35
    croprcropr Posts: 1,146member
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post





    LOL. Where there's missing data, there's hope.

    Keep believing in Android my friend. image

    I don't believe in Android (or in Apple).  Only a lot of iPhone users that switched to Android because of the screen size, are now switching to an iPhone6 .  But this effect will only last for a couple of quarters.  The iPhone 6 en 6+ are more expensive than the 5, so there are always people switching from iPhone to Android for price reasons

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  • Reply 33 of 35
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Marvin wrote: »
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/

    It makes sense really:

    "Cyanogen takes the Android source code and modifies it, adding more features and porting it to other devices. It has also started supplying Android builds directly to OEMs (like the OnePlus One), which ship the software on devices instead of stock Android.

    That didn't last long.


    http://bgr.com/2015/01/30/oneplus-one-oxygenos-update/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheBoyGeniusReport+(BGR+|+Boy+Genius+Report)
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  • Reply 34 of 35
    fallenjt wrote: »
    Maybe none. I don't see the reason that an iPhone owner switched to Android when 6/6+ came out. There's nothing from Android that users wanted to switch beside the large screen.
    Lower cost, better battery life, waterproofing, ability to swap batteries, ability to use SD card
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  • Reply 35 of 35
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    Originally Posted by cropr View Post

     

    I don't believe in Android (or in Apple).  Only a lot of iPhone users that switched to Android because of the screen size, are now switching to an iPhone6 .  But this effect will only last for a couple of quarters.  The iPhone 6 en 6+ are more expensive than the 5, so there are always people switching from iPhone to Android for price reasons




    You do believe. You just mistake your beliefs for facts.

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