That's my though too. Just as Maps did, if ?Search is built into iOS and OS X the vast majority of folks will use it much of the time and devastate Gaggle's income from iOS and OS X. Apple could buy DuckDuckGo and be there in a week!
It would be fun to see Apple buy DDG but I don't think they'd be there in a week. I certainly wouldn't start using DDG just because it was owned by Apple. I've tried all the search engines, as I do periodically, but I always keep running back to Google search pretty quickly.
Let's see. Which one do you think is more likely? That Google can build a relatively simple app that routes drivers to people who need rides (a slight feature on top of Google maps)? Or that Uber can start from scratch and build their own self-driving car?
Google copies, but Uber is run by jerks. I'm enjoying this no matter how it turns out.
This article is goofy. Trying to imply that the tiff between Google and Uber as having any relevance whatsoever to Apple is pure and utter silliness.
C'mon now, "Apple-like feud" is a total fabrication and unfounded, poor, and weak excuse for dumping an article that has no relevance to Apple on an Apple focused forum. What's next? Local mom enters into an Apple-like feud with teenage son over his refusal to pick up his dirty socks from the bedroom floor. Mom vows to go thermonuclear on sonny boy until the smelly socks are repatriated to the dirt clothes hamper. More news at eleven!
Reminiscent? No, it's just a plain old weak-ass story that proves once again that not everything in life revolves around Apple - no matter how hard you try to force fit a story to match an audience, sometimes the socks just don't fit.
It would be fun to see Apple buy DDG but I don't think they'd be there in a week. I certainly wouldn't start using DDG just because it was owned by Apple. I've tried all the search engines, as I do periodically, but I always keep running back to Google search pretty quickly.
Yes I agree and that's why i used the Maps analogy. We all went back to Google maps a lot but never the less Maps improved and over time the loss of users to Google maps especially on iOS was massive. The same could happen with DDG, it would have to improve and over time it would but a lot of people would use it if it was the default and of course we'd all want to pop over to Google when needed.
By the way, great responses from you on the previous post's topic. I can't even get involved, so many of the comments make me ill. I admire you can.
First, obviously Uber learned nothing about the Apple experience and board members. Why on earth would any company today allow any Google person on their Board, it obviously allows them an inside view of where those companies are heading. I was any company today and had ties to google I would be worried.
Second, Uber will not last, it is getting head winds and running into all sort of issue from crazy drivers to selectively over charging customers as well as State and cities going after them for various trade and employeement laws.
I wonder what the speed limits will be for self-driving cars. I would not feel comfortable with self-driving on the freeway, but 25 MPH on city streets seems just fine.
Yes I agree and that's why i used the Maps analogy. We all went back to Google maps a lot but never the less Maps improved and over time the loss of users to Google maps especially on iOS was massive. The same could happen with DDG, it would have to improve and over time it would but a lot of people would use it if it was the default and of course we'd all want to pop over to Google when needed.
I don't think I went back to Google Maps, except for comparisons and the occasional Street View, which I still do today. The UI for Apple Maps was simply better than the previous version and Google strategically waited months to release an app to the App Store.
By the way, great responses from you on the previous post's topic. I can't even get involved, so many of the comments make me ill. I admire you can.
I'm not sure what post to which you refer, but I'm curious. Could you send me a PM, as I am curious.
Companies need to learn that if you play with snakes you will eventually get bit.
Anything that asserts its virtue before it's questioned is suspect . . . ("Don't Be Evil"). Kinda like countries that have Democratic and People's in their names are usually autocratic and repressive.
I wonder what the speed limits will be for self-driving cars. I would not feel comfortable with self-driving on the freeway, but 25 MPH on city streets seems just fine.
There is some intriguing psychology here.
If I stand back and try to be objective, I'd say the highway makes a lot more sense for self-driving cars than in a city. I say this because highways generally have separated traffic all going in the same direction with a lot less in terms of obstacles, including pedestrians. I also think that self-driving cars may also be able to react to traffic situations better than humans. I'd think even reducing the highway Traffic Wave from, say, 12 MPH to 6 MPH could save millions of road hours per year, which could be done because 1) we could get cars to ride closer to each other (more vehicles on the road before congestions starts to slow down traffic) , 2) less humans tapping their breaks (thereby reducing countless traffic waves), 3) the ability for vehicles far outside the view of the car(s) around them to slowdown and accelerate because of satellite and terrestrial signals being given to them (think of the military marching in unison).
Of course, that's scary, just like it can be scary in plane because it's traveling so fast and you have zero control over the situation, but I could see that in a short time culture could change to see manual driving on the highway as the scary and ridiculous thing to do.
You are either being sarcastic or you completely misunderstand my point.
Well, sure, I was being sarcastic. I had a feeling a Google Vs. TheGoodGuy dynamic was going to set up in this thread and I was just pointing out that I wasn't all that much enamored of Uber either.
Obviously I know you were not advocating that Google adopt the ugly side of Uber!
Oh, I look forward to the driverless car. I want to tell Siri where and when I want to be somwhere and then step into some futuristic 'bubble' and relax while it takes me there. Or catch up on the news, or fall asleep. To own a car is hugely expensive and in densely populated areas owning a car is a waste in so many ways. The more people that share cars the less cars on the road.
As far as safety goes that is the selling point with driverless cars, isn't it? I once took a cab from an event and the driver went up on the curb twice(!) with two wheels. Terrifying!
I still don't trust any Mapping software for 100% accuracy. Things happen: emergency construction, pot holes, disabled vehicles, road closures, different traffic laws, traffic circles. For the longest time, Google Maps kept telling me to make an illegal hairpin turn to leave my neighborhood.
If I stand back and try to be objective, I'd say the highway makes a lot more sense for self-driving cars than in a city. I say this because highways generally have separated traffic all going in the same direction with a lot less in terms of obstacles, including pedestrians. I also think that self-driving cars may also be able to react to traffic situations better than humans. I'd think even reducing the highway Traffic Wave from, say, 12 MPH to 6 MPH could save millions of road hours per year, which could be done because 1) we could get cars to ride closer to each other (more vehicles on the road before congestions starts to slow down traffic) , 2) less humans tapping their breaks (thereby reducing countless traffic waves), 3) the ability for vehicles far outside the view of the car(s) around them to slowdown and accelerate because of satellite and terrestrial signals being given to them (think of the military marching in unison).
Of course, that's scary, just like it can be scary in plane because it's traveling so fast and you have zero control over the situation, but I could see that in a short time culture could change to see manual driving on the highway as the scary and ridiculous thing to do.
We shall see. I'd rather see slow vehicles puttering around town, like golf carts. Easily doable to take people from home to grocery stores and so on. Most driving occurs close to home.
My fear of the highway speeds is if there is some hiccup in the system or the vehicle. People would have override capability, but they are not going to be paying attention when things go afoul. Such as the traffic waves. Computers would very likely, with proper programming/rules, do a better job than a human at avoiding a collision. Just that additional risk at high speeds.
Eventually, driver-less cars will be ubiquitous. 25 years? 50 years? But, we could easily see those Google cars in 5 years taking us around town at slow speeds. In a sense, that's what people would be very comfortable with.
I hope to never be in a self driving car. At my age and the absolute craziness of the drivers in my home vicinities, probably not going to happen in my lifetime anyway. I already have my own private driver in a few of the cities I frequent. I did use Uber twice so far and it was fine.
I'll never use or ride in a self driving car. That is technology gone mad. For it to be a top defensive driver, which requires an intelligent visual observation of what's going on far ahead and around the car, is just a techie dream.
Of course Google is only pushing same to spy on you and to alert you to their advertisers you are passing by !
What we need now is more car collision avoidance devices, like the forward speed control on closing device.
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Wonder how many more goole moles should be exposed before boards learn!
I want to see Google go through some big hurt !
.. Hope it is in the process of unfolding ....
It would be fun to see Apple buy DDG but I don't think they'd be there in a week. I certainly wouldn't start using DDG just because it was owned by Apple. I've tried all the search engines, as I do periodically, but I always keep running back to Google search pretty quickly.
Google copies, but Uber is run by jerks. I'm enjoying this no matter how it turns out.
This article is goofy. Trying to imply that the tiff between Google and Uber as having any relevance whatsoever to Apple is pure and utter silliness.
C'mon now, "Apple-like feud" is a total fabrication and unfounded, poor, and weak excuse for dumping an article that has no relevance to Apple on an Apple focused forum. What's next? Local mom enters into an Apple-like feud with teenage son over his refusal to pick up his dirty socks from the bedroom floor. Mom vows to go thermonuclear on sonny boy until the smelly socks are repatriated to the dirt clothes hamper. More news at eleven!
Reminiscent? No, it's just a plain old weak-ass story that proves once again that not everything in life revolves around Apple - no matter how hard you try to force fit a story to match an audience, sometimes the socks just don't fit.
Go pick up your socks.
Yes I agree and that's why i used the Maps analogy. We all went back to Google maps a lot but never the less Maps improved and over time the loss of users to Google maps especially on iOS was massive. The same could happen with DDG, it would have to improve and over time it would but a lot of people would use it if it was the default and of course we'd all want to pop over to Google when needed.
By the way, great responses from you on the previous post's topic. I can't even get involved, so many of the comments make me ill. I admire you can.
Second, Uber will not last, it is getting head winds and running into all sort of issue from crazy drivers to selectively over charging customers as well as State and cities going after them for various trade and employeement laws.
I wonder what the speed limits will be for self-driving cars. I would not feel comfortable with self-driving on the freeway, but 25 MPH on city streets seems just fine.
I don't think I went back to Google Maps, except for comparisons and the occasional Street View, which I still do today. The UI for Apple Maps was simply better than the previous version and Google strategically waited months to release an app to the App Store.
I'm not sure what post to which you refer, but I'm curious. Could you send me a PM, as I am curious.
Anything that asserts its virtue before it's questioned is suspect . . . ("Don't Be Evil"). Kinda like countries that have Democratic and People's in their names are usually autocratic and repressive.
There is some intriguing psychology here.
If I stand back and try to be objective, I'd say the highway makes a lot more sense for self-driving cars than in a city. I say this because highways generally have separated traffic all going in the same direction with a lot less in terms of obstacles, including pedestrians. I also think that self-driving cars may also be able to react to traffic situations better than humans. I'd think even reducing the highway Traffic Wave from, say, 12 MPH to 6 MPH could save millions of road hours per year, which could be done because 1) we could get cars to ride closer to each other (more vehicles on the road before congestions starts to slow down traffic) , 2) less humans tapping their breaks (thereby reducing countless traffic waves), 3) the ability for vehicles far outside the view of the car(s) around them to slowdown and accelerate because of satellite and terrestrial signals being given to them (think of the military marching in unison).
Of course, that's scary, just like it can be scary in plane because it's traveling so fast and you have zero control over the situation, but I could see that in a short time culture could change to see manual driving on the highway as the scary and ridiculous thing to do.
Obviously I know you were not advocating that Google adopt the ugly side of Uber!
Jake may have been more clear:
I still don't trust any Mapping software for 100% accuracy. Things happen: emergency construction, pot holes, disabled vehicles, road closures, different traffic laws, traffic circles. For the longest time, Google Maps kept telling me to make an illegal hairpin turn to leave my neighborhood.
There is some intriguing psychology here.
If I stand back and try to be objective, I'd say the highway makes a lot more sense for self-driving cars than in a city. I say this because highways generally have separated traffic all going in the same direction with a lot less in terms of obstacles, including pedestrians. I also think that self-driving cars may also be able to react to traffic situations better than humans. I'd think even reducing the highway Traffic Wave from, say, 12 MPH to 6 MPH could save millions of road hours per year, which could be done because 1) we could get cars to ride closer to each other (more vehicles on the road before congestions starts to slow down traffic) , 2) less humans tapping their breaks (thereby reducing countless traffic waves), 3) the ability for vehicles far outside the view of the car(s) around them to slowdown and accelerate because of satellite and terrestrial signals being given to them (think of the military marching in unison).
Of course, that's scary, just like it can be scary in plane because it's traveling so fast and you have zero control over the situation, but I could see that in a short time culture could change to see manual driving on the highway as the scary and ridiculous thing to do.
We shall see. I'd rather see slow vehicles puttering around town, like golf carts. Easily doable to take people from home to grocery stores and so on. Most driving occurs close to home.
My fear of the highway speeds is if there is some hiccup in the system or the vehicle. People would have override capability, but they are not going to be paying attention when things go afoul. Such as the traffic waves. Computers would very likely, with proper programming/rules, do a better job than a human at avoiding a collision. Just that additional risk at high speeds.
Eventually, driver-less cars will be ubiquitous. 25 years? 50 years? But, we could easily see those Google cars in 5 years taking us around town at slow speeds. In a sense, that's what people would be very comfortable with.
I can't stand Uber. Their pricing is ridiculous. The experiences I've had using them were awful. Never again.
I hope to never be in a self driving car. At my age and the absolute craziness of the drivers in my home vicinities, probably not going to happen in my lifetime anyway. I already have my own private driver in a few of the cities I frequent. I did use Uber twice so far and it was fine.
I'll never use or ride in a self driving car. That is technology gone mad. For it to be a top defensive driver, which requires an intelligent visual observation of what's going on far ahead and around the car, is just a techie dream.
Of course Google is only pushing same to spy on you and to alert you to their advertisers you are passing by !
What we need now is more car collision avoidance devices, like the forward speed control on closing device.
No, they'll call it Guber+.
It would be more fun to call it Hans-free Gruber, because if you do get in an accident you Die Hard.
(That jokes needs lots of work)