Is this for the watch? Still unclear how they make that work with apple pay without touch id
YES.
This is what I suggested when the ?Watch was unveiled.
I also suggested a TouchID sensor under the watch reads your wrist all day constantly refining the data. But this idea has a lot of issues like hairy wrists etc.
P.S. that day a bunch of morons on here were shooting me down. Not enough Wayne Gretzkys here.
I love the physical Home Button on the iPhone. I think it's great for orienting the phone in your hand without looking - e.g. when you're fishing it out of your pocket while driving or while in a dark room. With it, I can give Siri a command without ever looking at the phone. How would you do these things without a physical button? Phones are pretty featureless slabs these days - without that button, you'd have to search for the power or volume buttons to orient the phone blindly.
Some are apt to suggest haptic feedback (e.g. a vibrate wen you're over the button) - but that seems like a waste of precious electricity.
If Apple did something like LG does, double tap the screen and the screen turns on and unlocks the phone, Apple adding the Touch ID for that under the screen would be nice.
Even double tap ala LG is a step back from the current seamless one press and hold the home/TouchID to both turn on and log into the phone.
But Force Touch (from Apple Watch) is already part of the solution. With Force Touch the screen can tell the difference between a light touch and a deep press. Just make it so that when you deep press the screen, the screen will turn on, the fingerprint will be read and you're logged in, in a matter of several milliseconds. That would be astounding.
This is what I suggested when the ?Watch was unveiled.
I also suggested a TouchID sensor under the watch reads your wrist all day constantly refining the data. But this idea has a lot of issues like hairy wrists etc.
P.S. that day a bunch of morons on here were shooting me down. Not enough Wayne Gretzkys here.
Yep I made this comment too after they showed the intro video for apple pay...it was more or less, oh by the way you can pay with your watch too, and there was a 2 millisecond shot of the woman swiping her wrist then it cut off awkwardly before she verified in any way ha! Plus the fact the watch will allow Apple pay on older phones such as the 5 with no Touch ID...wonder why nobody has been observing the obvious that the watch will have Touch ID?
Yep I made this comment too after they showed the intro video for apple pay...it was more or less, oh by the way you can pay with your watch too, and there was a 2 millisecond shot of the woman swiping her wrist then it cut off awkwardly before she verified in any way ha! Plus the fact the watch will allow Apple pay on older phones such as the 5 with no Touch ID...wonder why nobody has been observing the obvious that the watch will have Touch ID?
Obviously, they wouldn't have you swiping your wrist to only have to dig your phone out and then use Touch ID to verify
What I'd love to see more than anything in the 12" MacBook Air "stealth" is the entire area of its trackpad is invisibly and magically a Touch ID surface. Want to unlock your Mac? Place a finger on the trackpad. Want to buy an app or rent a movie on your Mac? Same. Want to log into eBay or Facebook or whatever? Simply place one finger on the trackpad. That'd be amazing!! It would change notebook computers forever.
You're not the only one. The rumoured lack of a clickable trackpad is the only thing putting me off the rumoured rMBA. A far bigger issue for me than the dramatic single USB type-c port move.
This is what I suggested when the ?Watch was unveiled.
I also suggested a TouchID sensor under the watch reads your wrist all day constantly refining the data. But this idea has a lot of issues like hairy wrists etc.
P.S. that day a bunch of morons on here were shooting me down. Not enough Wayne Gretzkys here.
Shooting you down because ? Watch doesn't need it to function for ? Pay
The rumoured lack of a clickable trackpad is the only thing putting me off the rumoured rMBA.
Hm, that wouldn't bother me at all. I can't remember the last time I used the physical click on my trusty old MBP's trackpad - all taps for me.
Not that I have the money to replace my 2010 MBP right now (just got laid off last week :-(, but I wonder whether a 2015 MBA is faster than a 2010 MBP (i7).....wait, never mind - I need 16GB in my next machine.
There's all kinds of reasons why doing this would be a great idea.
* You increase the speed of getting into the locked phone to start doing stuff. It's subtle, but it adds up a lot over time, especially if you're someone like me who is unlocking the phone 100+ times a day.
* You can use the fingerprint scanner to increase the precision of the capacitive sensor, so it gets even better at determining exactly what you're pointing at by centering your fingerprint when your finger is covering multiple interactive elements.
* This can help improve the phone's ability to sense whether it's upright or turned on its side based on the orientation of your fingerprints, reducing the annoyance of the phone going into landscape when you want it in portrait orientation.
* You reduce the size of the phone, which reduces weight, makes it easier to hold and use, and saves material costs.
* As a corollary, you make more of the phone's surface into actual screen instead of dead space, which is more attractive.
* You get closer to a sealed device with no moving parts, which can break and let water or dust in. I understand the concern that a sealed device would be harder to use by feel without looking at it. However, this doesn't prevent you from implementing a "lip" in the glass or other tactile cues to orient the device without looking at it, and lift the glass off a scratching surface. (And anyway, you'd probably be using a case which would make it even more obvious.) When combined with additional cues from haptic feedback and a pressure-sensitive screen, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
* You can have enhanced security, if for some reason a government agency or other group issuing iOS devices to its employees wants more than one fingerprint to unlock.
There's all kinds of reasons why doing this would be a great idea.
* You increase the speed of getting into the locked phone to start doing stuff. It's subtle, but it adds up a lot over time, especially if you're someone like me who is unlocking the phone 100+ times a day.
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* You get closer to a sealed device with no moving parts, which can break and let water or dust in. I understand the concern that a sealed device would be harder to use by feel without looking at it. However, this doesn't prevent you from implementing a "lip" in the glass or other tactile cues to orient the device without looking at it, and lift the glass off a scratching surface. (And anyway, you'd probably be using a case which would make it even more obvious.) When combined with additional cues from haptic feedback and a pressure-sensitive screen, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
* You can have enhanced security, if for some reason a government agency or other group issuing iOS devices to its employees wants more than one fingerprint to unlock.
I'm sure there's more I'm not covering.
Good point about a "lip" (or a divot) - hadn't thought of that. Now that we're talking about it, if the phone had microphone/speaker on both ends, I guess finding the top/bottom may no longer be important - "top" is however you hold it when you unlock.
Good point about a "lip" (or a divot) - hadn't thought of that. Now that we're talking about it, if the phone had microphone/speaker on both ends, I guess finding the top/bottom may no longer be important - "top" is however you hold it when you unlock.
Speaker on both ends would definitely be welcome, it would increase the sound quality.
gee, i bet you were the first person to think of that. have you written to Cook? as their recent most-profitable-quarter-in-the-history-of-earth shows, they could use a person w/ your forward-thinking vision!
as I've said before, this is a good idea and then they can get rid of that home button. Its (for me) far too big and spoils the aesthetics of the iphone.
well its a good thing you've said it before. now we have it on record!
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I can guarantee you this isn't just for unlocking the iPhone that would be dumb.
I'm betting it works in conjunction with pressure sensitive screens.
Could also be used as an anti theft feature.
There's more to this.
YES.
This is what I suggested when the ?Watch was unveiled.
I also suggested a TouchID sensor under the watch reads your wrist all day constantly refining the data. But this idea has a lot of issues like hairy wrists etc.
P.S. that day a bunch of morons on here were shooting me down. Not enough Wayne Gretzkys here.
I'm with you on this!
Even double tap ala LG is a step back from the current seamless one press and hold the home/TouchID to both turn on and log into the phone.
But Force Touch (from Apple Watch) is already part of the solution. With Force Touch the screen can tell the difference between a light touch and a deep press. Just make it so that when you deep press the screen, the screen will turn on, the fingerprint will be read and you're logged in, in a matter of several milliseconds. That would be astounding.
Yep I made this comment too after they showed the intro video for apple pay...it was more or less, oh by the way you can pay with your watch too, and there was a 2 millisecond shot of the woman swiping her wrist then it cut off awkwardly before she verified in any way ha! Plus the fact the watch will allow Apple pay on older phones such as the 5 with no Touch ID...wonder why nobody has been observing the obvious that the watch will have Touch ID?
Obviously, they wouldn't have you swiping your wrist to only have to dig your phone out and then use Touch ID to verify
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You're not the only one. The rumoured lack of a clickable trackpad is the only thing putting me off the rumoured rMBA. A far bigger issue for me than the dramatic single USB type-c port move.
More importantly it sounds like a far worse experience.
No one listens to you? Nonsense :P
No one listens to you? Nonsense :P
Shooting you down because ? Watch doesn't need it to function for ? Pay
The rumoured lack of a clickable trackpad is the only thing putting me off the rumoured rMBA.
Hm, that wouldn't bother me at all. I can't remember the last time I used the physical click on my trusty old MBP's trackpad - all taps for me.
Not that I have the money to replace my 2010 MBP right now (just got laid off last week :-(, but I wonder whether a 2015 MBA is faster than a 2010 MBP (i7).....wait, never mind - I need 16GB in my next machine.
There's all kinds of reasons why doing this would be a great idea.
* You increase the speed of getting into the locked phone to start doing stuff. It's subtle, but it adds up a lot over time, especially if you're someone like me who is unlocking the phone 100+ times a day.
* You can use the fingerprint scanner to increase the precision of the capacitive sensor, so it gets even better at determining exactly what you're pointing at by centering your fingerprint when your finger is covering multiple interactive elements.
* This can help improve the phone's ability to sense whether it's upright or turned on its side based on the orientation of your fingerprints, reducing the annoyance of the phone going into landscape when you want it in portrait orientation.
* You reduce the size of the phone, which reduces weight, makes it easier to hold and use, and saves material costs.
* As a corollary, you make more of the phone's surface into actual screen instead of dead space, which is more attractive.
* You get closer to a sealed device with no moving parts, which can break and let water or dust in. I understand the concern that a sealed device would be harder to use by feel without looking at it. However, this doesn't prevent you from implementing a "lip" in the glass or other tactile cues to orient the device without looking at it, and lift the glass off a scratching surface. (And anyway, you'd probably be using a case which would make it even more obvious.) When combined with additional cues from haptic feedback and a pressure-sensitive screen, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
* You can have enhanced security, if for some reason a government agency or other group issuing iOS devices to its employees wants more than one fingerprint to unlock.
I'm sure there's more I'm not covering.
There's all kinds of reasons why doing this would be a great idea.
* You increase the speed of getting into the locked phone to start doing stuff. It's subtle, but it adds up a lot over time, especially if you're someone like me who is unlocking the phone 100+ times a day.
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* You get closer to a sealed device with no moving parts, which can break and let water or dust in. I understand the concern that a sealed device would be harder to use by feel without looking at it. However, this doesn't prevent you from implementing a "lip" in the glass or other tactile cues to orient the device without looking at it, and lift the glass off a scratching surface. (And anyway, you'd probably be using a case which would make it even more obvious.) When combined with additional cues from haptic feedback and a pressure-sensitive screen, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
* You can have enhanced security, if for some reason a government agency or other group issuing iOS devices to its employees wants more than one fingerprint to unlock.
I'm sure there's more I'm not covering.
Good point about a "lip" (or a divot) - hadn't thought of that. Now that we're talking about it, if the phone had microphone/speaker on both ends, I guess finding the top/bottom may no longer be important - "top" is however you hold it when you unlock.
Good point about a "lip" (or a divot) - hadn't thought of that. Now that we're talking about it, if the phone had microphone/speaker on both ends, I guess finding the top/bottom may no longer be important - "top" is however you hold it when you unlock.
Speaker on both ends would definitely be welcome, it would increase the sound quality.
I've been saying it for years but no one listens.
Grow the screen and get rid of that button.
gee, i bet you were the first person to think of that. have you written to Cook? as their recent most-profitable-quarter-in-the-history-of-earth shows, they could use a person w/ your forward-thinking vision!
hint: that aint the reason no one listens to you.
as I've said before, this is a good idea and then they can get rid of that home button. Its (for me) far too big and spoils the aesthetics of the iphone.
well its a good thing you've said it before. now we have it on record!
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s5-corner-fingerprint-scanner-344704/
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/07/21/sonovation-has-bonded-3d-fingerprint-sensors-to-gorilla-glass-kiss-your-home-button-goodbye/