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izaiahmazin wrote: »
This singlehandledly takes the cake for the most simple minded comment ever posted by an AppleInsider reader.
Or you accidentally omitted your "/S"
benjamin frost wrote: »
No doubt, you'll be looking forward to having Ebola being given to you.
slurpy wrote: »
To any mod reading, I have 2 questions:
1. When a poster claims that the most successful CEO on the planet is not fit to be in his position for the crime of accepting to meet with a universally admired civil rights leader (that leaders of other tech companies are currently meeting with), how can that be explained as anything other than pure, blatant racism? What other explanation could there POSSIBLY be for such a non-sensical, ridiculously unbalanced, and irrational statement?
2. Why is blatant, consistent racism from the likes of BF tolerated on this forum? Are there no limits to the kind of hate speech that people can spout? I've been banned multiple times for "ad-hominem" attacks on people like BF, as I called them out in honest terms. How can this be ban-worthy, not the constant, hate-filled attacks, veiled and unveiled, against entire ethnic groups from posters like BF?
I'd appreciate answers to these questions.
Apple gets singled out for the bad stuff like labor issues in China and whenever Greenpeace farts but you’ll never see this story in the mainstream media. No big deal was made about the $850 million solar energy plant except for the objections of some activists to its location. Negativity sells in the U.S. The country is perpetually doomed just like Apple is and that sells ads and newspapers.
As for Benjamin Frost just block him and/or stop replying. These types thrive on negative attention. Ignore him and he will leave on his own volition quickly.
Tim does not have to do anything to counter the negativity generated from the article written by the WSJ. The WSJ needed clicks yesterday and got them by doing the easy thing: Writing something that will be perceived as being critical of Apple.
Your pal Mark Gruman did not propagate the negativity.
"benjamin frost" is...
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You've been a busy little troll, haven't you, Benjy? Someone needs to inform him we have a higher standard of humanity in our country and it's enabled us to become the most powerful, prosperous, influential nation on earth.
First of all the individual in question is John Lewis, so I don't know why the **** you would mention 2 individuals instead of him, who have nothing to do with this story.
Secondly "race-baiter" is purely your own label, and has nothing to do with any kind of empirical fact.
Thirdly, even IF they were as you describe them, it still takes an insane leap to say Tim Cook does not deserve his position, for accepting to meet with them. That kind of crazed, extreme statement is what I attribute to racism, not his/your opinion of individuals that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Your or my opinion of these people is completely besides the point. It does not give carte blanche to attack anyone who meets with them, and certainly not a CEO for whom it may be an obligation.
Thirdly, my Qs are not based on a single one of BFs post, but a consistent trend in his 6000+ posts.
I'm not a fan of Netanyahu for example (to put it lightly) but I would never in a million years suggest Tim Cook is not fit for the job, nor do I put anything against him, because he agreed to meet with him. I'm not so childish as to suggest that the CEO of a massive company should only meet with and agree with the people that I personally like, and definitely not so petty and childish as to attack, mock, deride, and chide the CEO if he doesn't agree with some very narrow ideologies.
There are limits to the extreme statements someone can make, and it's sad that you cannot acknowledge the ridiculous and extreme statements BF makes about Cook, just because you happen to share general ideologies There are statements that are insane no matter what side of the fence you're on, and if you had some maturity you would step back and acknowledge BFs consistently nasty comments, attacking Cook anytime he can find even the most strained excuse.
I'm not saying that Cook is the wrong man for the job because he meets with people. Far from it. That said however you posted "When a poster claims that the most successful CEO on the planet is not fit to be in his position for the crime of accepting to meet with a universally admired civil rights leader, how can that be explained as anything other than pure, blatant racism?"I mentioned Jesse because Tim has met with him as well and Jackson is considered "Universally Admired". I don't think he should have pandered to Jackson because of Jackson's well-documented history of reverse-racism and racial-divisiveness purely to line his own pockets nor do I claim Cook is unfit for his job for doing so. It would be luidicris to claim otherwise, but does this make me a bigot?
John Lewis I actually have a lot of respect for. He's marched with MLK. He's not someone like Jackson who likes claiming he was by King's side when he was assassinated when he was nowhere near King.
As for BF I think he's on my block list so I'm not privy to his posts.
Just thought this deserves a response. No, your views of Jackson do not make you a bigot. I don't throw these words around carelessly or easily. I'm actually not a huge fan of his, and I can't stand Sharpton, but I don't lump John Lewis in the same category simply because he's black. And it's clear you share the same respect for him, so I don't think there should be any disagreement between you and I over my initial post to BF. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion about these individuals. However, BF has made many, many statements to the affect that Cook should be removed from his post because he's met with people that BF he does not like (for obvious reasons).
You're an intelligent poster, and the fact that you have BF on your block list means you clearly choose not to put up with his garbage. I have absolutely no problem with you. I have a problem with those who have a long posting history of xenophobia, misogyny, and hateful, derogatory attacks towards entire ethnic groups, and going so far as to mock and attack Apple execs and employees for not sharing this hatred and these ideologies. Not to mention BFs disgusting attacks and mockery against Cook because of his sexual orientation, his concern for the environment, the fact that he hired a woman, etc etc.
crowley wrote: »
^ they did really great. Spectacularly great. Don't judge the whole life of the company by the final years when it osbourned itself and suffered very poor managerial decisions imposed by an outsider.
It certainly does in the sense that it gets people who may have a great idea to the table that turns out to be "The Next Big Thing" that might otherwise be passed on or looked over.
Steve Jobs had definite political ideas too. But when it came to his business he had an aggressive—borderline obsessive—focus on doing things that are "really great". Tim seems to be much more into political activism, which necessarily takes away from the kind of focus that was necessary to make Apple the company it became. That lack of focus appears to be showing up in Apple's products in that "it just works" has been noticeably slipping. For example: http://www.marco.org/2015/01/04/apple-lost-functional-high-ground
nick29 wrote: »
This is race pandering, pure and simple. It doesn't matter what Lewis and Cook discussed, all that matters is the photo op, and the Tweet, and the gushing about how much of a hardon Cook has for "equality" and how evil all those straight, white males are for working at Apple.
To Cook's credit, America is a country where image is everything. Inviting Lewis, or Jackson, or any other race hustler is a good way to gain protection in the "racism" racket. It makes me wretch, but its not going to hurt the bottom line.
How much do you want to bet that Apple doesn't have another straight, white male as CEO this century, if ever again?