Just yesterday I was able to test out both an Alpine and Pioneer head unit with CarPlay. The Alpine model had good response (but no sat hook up) and the Panasonic was laggy. Both of which means I won't be adopting them as after-market head units. I don't know which of the 11 Pioneers it was, but I'm certainly not going to jump into one of these without first testing it out. Besides having all the requisite feature set and good enough performance, I'd also have to make sure the rest of the head unit's SW works as expected, as well as make sure the stereo shop can hook up the hands-free mic, and steering wheel and dashboard controls the way they are now with my current system.
Vaporware. I have been hearing about CarPlay for several years now; but, is it currently offered in any car models? I don't think so. I don't think the auto makers want it in their cars.
The portal that allows the CarPlay SW on your iPhone to work exists in products you can buy today so it's obviously not vaporware.
I have been hearing about CarPlay for several years now;
No you haven't. It was only announced a year ago.
I don't think the auto makers want it in their cars.
And yet they've signed on and it's being offered, with many having release dates and car models in which they'll first be offering the service (along with Android Auto, which works the same way).
We're talking about getting your iPhone to use the in-dash infotainment system display and controls of 3rd-party devices as an extension of itself with a new CarPlay UI in each iPhone that will work across all car manufactures the same way. We're also taking about car companies having to retro-fit their in-dash systems years after they've been solidified and tested. How the hell can you think a year is enough time to get this all worked out so that it's available in all vehicles?
What's also funny and sad at the same time is how dumbed down the American English language has become and how meaning has been distorted or changed outright due to popularity and/or great influence. I have a Websters dictionary that I like to reference from the 1800's. comparing it to the new one is quite enlightening. LOL
I just leased a 2015 Lexus ES. I bought the base model that does allow bluetooth integration with my iPhone 5S. But it has limited capabilities. It integrates video, music and Contacts (up to 1,000 -- I have 1,600). So I can watch movies on the basic, but large Lexus screen and take phone calls and so on.
To get the full iOS integration to view the iPhone screen and use SIRI as well as navigation from the iPhone, I had to upgrade to Enform and a load of other options for $3,000 more.
So car companies are holding back existing integration software to allow customers to access CarPlay.
I don't know about you. But if the software and hardware exists and really costs the manufacturer little to nothing to include in their existing system. I find this extremely irritating since Apple already did the tough work and invested in the system for the car industry.
And yet they've signed on and it's being offered, with many having release dates and car models in which they'll first be offering the service.
How the hell can you think a year is enough time to get this all worked out so that it's available in all vehicles?
You keep believing in that fantasy. Just because they signed on, doesn't mean they will ever offer it. I don't know of any of the auto makers that claimed they would do it have it available. Honda claimed the 2014 Civic would be the first to have CarPlay with their new DisplayAudio stereo. Apple even used the Civic dash as a promotional photo. 2014 came and went, no CarPlay. Even the 2015 models have no CarPlay and Honda has no idea when CarPlay would be available. Honda is still using their own software for the iPhone link with apps. So far, CarPlay is vaporware because it is not available in any mainstream automobile, with no release dates.
Car-makers just move much slower... it takes a minimum of 5 years to design a "new" car and get it into production... and the way cars are designed these days, adding functionality like CarPlay can't just be slapped on to existing systems (not easily, anyway.)
I wouldn't expect to see it in many new cars for a couple years yet ... and even then, it'll probably be a poor implementation.
It's a shame too... I'd love to be able to buy a car and have all the music/nav/connectivity just be provided on a generic touch-screen and handled by the phone of my choice... something that could handle an upgraded phone every couple of years... It'd be nice to get modern functionality in my $40k car just by buying a new $0.6k phone!
(...and if the car provided a simple blank touch-screen, and an industry-standard interface, it wouldn't mater if your phone was from Apple, or Nokia, or Samsung (or whether the car was a Ford, BMW, or Toyota)... the phone makers would be able to put their own spin on the display.)
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Vaporware. I have been hearing about CarPlay for several years now; but, is it currently offered in any car models? I don't think so. I don't think the auto makers want it in their cars.
The portal that allows the CarPlay SW on your iPhone to work exists in products you can buy today so it's obviously not vaporware.
No you haven't. It was only announced a year ago.
And yet they've signed on and it's being offered, with many having release dates and car models in which they'll first be offering the service (along with Android Auto, which works the same way).
We're talking about getting your iPhone to use the in-dash infotainment system display and controls of 3rd-party devices as an extension of itself with a new CarPlay UI in each iPhone that will work across all car manufactures the same way. We're also taking about car companies having to retro-fit their in-dash systems years after they've been solidified and tested. How the hell can you think a year is enough time to get this all worked out so that it's available in all vehicles?
I thought that strane too. Lookinat Volvo's logo.
but funny how changes in the times distort original intent.
Not my first choice for info, but it's accurate:
http://www.examiner.com/article/why-is-volvo-s-logo-the-male-symbol
What's also funny and sad at the same time is how dumbed down the American English language has become and how meaning has been distorted or changed outright due to popularity and/or great influence. I have a Websters dictionary that I like to reference from the 1800's. comparing it to the new one is quite enlightening. LOL
To get the full iOS integration to view the iPhone screen and use SIRI as well as navigation from the iPhone, I had to upgrade to Enform and a load of other options for $3,000 more.
So car companies are holding back existing integration software to allow customers to access CarPlay.
I don't know about you. But if the software and hardware exists and really costs the manufacturer little to nothing to include in their existing system. I find this extremely irritating since Apple already did the tough work and invested in the system for the car industry.
And yet they've signed on and it's being offered, with many having release dates and car models in which they'll first be offering the service.
You keep believing in that fantasy. Just because they signed on, doesn't mean they will ever offer it. I don't know of any of the auto makers that claimed they would do it have it available. Honda claimed the 2014 Civic would be the first to have CarPlay with their new DisplayAudio stereo. Apple even used the Civic dash as a promotional photo. 2014 came and went, no CarPlay. Even the 2015 models have no CarPlay and Honda has no idea when CarPlay would be available. Honda is still using their own software for the iPhone link with apps. So far, CarPlay is vaporware because it is not available in any mainstream automobile, with no release dates.
Car-makers just move much slower... it takes a minimum of 5 years to design a "new" car and get it into production... and the way cars are designed these days, adding functionality like CarPlay can't just be slapped on to existing systems (not easily, anyway.)
I wouldn't expect to see it in many new cars for a couple years yet ... and even then, it'll probably be a poor implementation.
It's a shame too... I'd love to be able to buy a car and have all the music/nav/connectivity just be provided on a generic touch-screen and handled by the phone of my choice... something that could handle an upgraded phone every couple of years... It'd be nice to get modern functionality in my $40k car just by buying a new $0.6k phone!
(...and if the car provided a simple blank touch-screen, and an industry-standard interface, it wouldn't mater if your phone was from Apple, or Nokia, or Samsung (or whether the car was a Ford, BMW, or Toyota)... the phone makers would be able to put their own spin on the display.)