Whites on average score 100 in intelligence. Jews tend to score slightly higher, as well as East Asians. Native Americans (both hemispheres) and most others slightly lower. But always, the black race averages about 15 points lower... which is very significant. Google "race bell curve" for images.
What this means is the average white person (or Asian, or Jew) when confronted with a black person can reliably assume they are dealing with somebody with a good deal less intelligence. That is the ugly truth, and no amount of "Jesus loves us all" or "man was created equal" philosophy can change that.
Google "African American Genius". It is very likely that there has never been one (documented)! Not to say that it is impossible, as the Bell Curve stretches to infinity (as the probability decreases). That is why one cannot say ALL blacks have low IQ. As our Bell Curves intersect SOME blacks will have a higher IQ than SOME whites. Some... the dumbest whites and the smartest blacks.
These numbers have been repeated countless times with matching results. That is why IQ is not used anymore. Our masters have just buried the truth instead of dealing with it.
My theory is all the races who left sub-Saharan Africa evolved separately and slightly. It's the only thing that makes sense. It also explains sub-Saharan African's plight everywhere in the world throughout history. They are not just struggling in Africa or America.
Think about it. The Bell Curves are obvious when you look at each race's achievement, social status, temperament, crime rates, wealth... every single demographic aligns with it.
Sounds like you were born 75 years too late for your ideology.
IQ tests are written by people and have inherent biases. This is why "whites" score 100 on IQ tests, they are western- centric IQ tests. You are also ignoring the fact that Jews scored very low on German designed IQ tests during WW2.
Googling for African American geniuses will get you plenty of hits, including Ben Carson, the GOP presidential candidate who was failing in elementary school but went on to make history separating Siamese twins. You may recall that Einstein and Thomas Edison also failed traditional schools and IQ tests early in their lives.
Also interesting is the fact that African Americans dominate almost all sports and are the most influential artists in history. Nearly all modern musical genres, including country music, were transformed by African American artists. The only pure western musical style is Classical or Opera. The ancient Egyptians created a vast culture and breathtaking architecture while white people were still living in caves. I guess it all depends what you call "genius', maybe those bloodletting cave dwellers were super smart by your standards
I realize though that it's pointless to argue with someone who searches for evidence to justify his racism.
What you're really saying is that, in your opinion, racism is fine as long as it is complimentary to a race, avoids fields that are taboo and is complimentary to non-white races. That, of course, means that, by definition, you are elevating one race over another in one or more fields.
It would seem that you are happy to say that black people are particularly good at sport, but you are not happy to say that white people are particularly good at being intelligent. Those are the same taboos that the general public would have.
Sounds like you were born 75 years too late for your ideology.
IQ tests are written by people and have inherent biases. This is why "whites" score 100 on IQ tests, they are western- centric IQ tests. You are also ignoring the fact that Jews scored very low on German designed IQ tests during WW2.
Googling for African American geniuses will get you plenty of hits, including Ben Carson, the GOP presidential candidate who was failing in elementary school but went on to make history separating Siamese twins. You may recall that Einstein and Thomas Edison also failed traditional schools and IQ tests early in their lives.
Also interesting is the fact that African Americans dominate almost all sports and are the most influential artists in history. Nearly all modern musical genres, including country music, were transformed by African American artists. The only pure western musical style is Classical or Opera. The ancient Egyptians created a vast culture and breathtaking architecture while white people were still living in caves. I guess it all depends what you call "genius', maybe those bloodletting cave dwellers were super smart by your standards
I realize though that it's pointless to argue with someone who searches for evidence to justify his racism.
This is the correct approach to the data, of course. IQ tests are designed by literate, print-habituated people with strong left-hemisphere bias. This is not even hinted at being recognized as an impossible bias against people with other cultural histories. It is obvious to anyone even lightly schooled in media-ecology studies. And it's common sense.
Whites on average score 100 in intelligence. Jews tend to score slightly higher, as well as East Asians. Native Americans (both hemispheres) and most others slightly lower. But always, the black race averages about 15 points lower... which is very significant. Google "race bell curve" for images.
What this means is the average white person (or Asian, or Jew) when confronted with a black person can reliably assume they are dealing with somebody with a good deal less intelligence. That is the ugly truth, and no amount of "Jesus loves us all" or "man was created equal" philosophy can change that.
Google "African American Genius". It is very likely that there has never been one (documented)! Not to say that it is impossible, as the Bell Curve stretches to infinity (as the probability decreases). That is why one cannot say ALL blacks have low IQ. As our Bell Curves intersect SOME blacks will have a higher IQ than SOME whites. Some... the dumbest whites and the smartest blacks.
These numbers have been repeated countless times with matching results. That is why IQ is not used anymore. Our masters have just buried the truth instead of dealing with it.
My theory is all the races who left sub-Saharan Africa evolved separately and slightly. It's the only thing that makes sense. It also explains sub-Saharan African's plight everywhere in the world throughout history. They are not just struggling in Africa or America.
Think about it. The Bell Curves are obvious when you look at each race's achievement, social status, temperament, crime rates, wealth... every single demographic aligns with it.
wow, just... wow...
I’ll just say this – it has nothing to do with genes or ability and everything to do with social-economic status. The immigrated jews during wartime who scored low were under socio-economic strife, as are many minorities today including “Native Americans (both hemispheres)” and most importantly – MANY whites. The only difference is prejudice – as you said yourself you “assume they are dealing with somebody with a good deal less intelligence” and yet with your own admission you would assume that a white person would have higher intelligence without actually know if it is true or not. When your day-to-day life is more difficult than average, and you make a lower average wage, it is difficult to focus and prioritize academic excellence. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or cannot be easily achieved given similar opportunity, though. If you need an example of an African American genius, look no further than Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I’m sure the concepts in his head would give you an aneurysm. Also, specific academic intelligence is not a true test of intelligence, just a narrow measurement of a specific skill set that is has been questionable in value for decades as society and it’s demands evolve. Ask any waiter or barista with an associate or masters degree.
You point of view is ridiculous and bias to your prejudice. You have an idea, you look at data that supports it – toss away contradicting theories that don’t fit your narrative then make the claims so broad and generalized that it’s impossible to contradict. Not because it’s correct, but rather that it’s undefined half-truths lacking real context for fear that it will undo your point. The fact that you seem to truly feel this is all honest and true makes you no better than the worst of us – and I look forward to when that last of your kind dies off. And for clarity about what I mean about “your kind”, I mean those of privilege of any race that think they are superior simply for the lucky lot in life they were born into. Who might actually be smart enough understand the world we live in if they only left their bubble.
What you're really saying is that, in your opinion, racism is fine as long as it is complimentary to a race, avoids fields that are taboo and is complimentary to non-white races. That, of course, means that, by definition, you are elevating one race over another in one or more fields.
It would seem that you are happy to say that black people are particularly good at sport, but you are not happy to say that white people are particularly good at being intelligent. Those are the same taboos that the general public would have.
It might seem that way if you are trolling or not paying attention. I made no claim to any sort of genetic superiority. I think that cultural and environmental factors are the reasons for all these various discrepancies. And I believe that diversity and cross culturalism have led to the biggest human accomplishments.
It might seem that way if you are trolling or not paying attention. I made no claim to any sort of genetic superiority. I think that cultural and environmental factors are the reasons for all these various discrepancies. And I believe that diversity and cross culturalism have led to the biggest human accomplishments.
And you would be correct again. If he replies to you, it will be, as you say, him trolling you. He, "not paying attention"? I am sure he works very hard at finding the break in the skin of your argument where he can inject his virulent spores. Many of us are hoping to ignore him into oblivion.
And you would be correct again. If he replies to you, it will be, as you say, him trolling you. He, "not paying attention"? I am sure he works very hard at finding the break in the skin of your argument where he can inject his virulent spores. Many of us are hoping to ignore him into oblivion.
It's probably going to add to "Apple's bottom line," in your utilitarian words. No one reasonable expects Apple to poke its nose so far into other countries' affairs.
Why not? Can you guess? Answer: Apple is an American company! Was that so hard?
No, actually Apple is a MULTINATIONAL company with headquarters, managers, employees, bank accounts and filing tax returns in MANY countries. China being the second largest and fastest growing. So, Apple China is a Chinese company.
To someone on the other side of this issue, the whole thing feels like bullying. You have tens of millions of s certain class of people (religious folks) being told repetitively that they are stupid, uneducated, having psychotic breaks with reality, etc. However, some of them do have a higher education and can articulate why they disagree with socialism and communism and especially the kind that tries to pretend it is not.
Then imagine for one minute how it's been for gays and their REAL subjugation for centuries.
Have you ever been insulted in the street because you were straight? Fulminated at and told you'd burn in hell by religious ministers because you were straight? Beaten up or killed because you were straight? Told you were about the same level as pedophiles and drunks because you were straight?
Refused access to your sick or dying partner in hospital because you were straight? Chucked out of you and your partner's home of 30 years because you were straight? Had your children taken from you because you were straight? Lost your job because you were straight?
The anti-gay culture has been certifiably pervasive in every day life for centuries. Christians pretending to be bullied now is laughable. They had their chance to be respectable. They've demonstrated an unearned pious entitlement used to feel better about themselves at the expense of others.
Are gays fed up with BEING bullied and treated with equal or worse disdain for their entire lives? Yep. You reap what you sow. Complaining now and feigning victimhood is kind of laughable.
How do we get from someone refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding to 'gays are (going to be) discriminated against? Serious question - how do you justify economically punishing the good people of Indiana over this? What right of gays is being threatened so badly that whole companies need to boycott the state? I am just not seeing it.
This is what Libertarians wanted. They want businesses to be able to discriminate against anybody they want to.
The free market has spoken, and they said screw homophobes. The fact that they're so far up their own ass in entitlement that they couldn't imagine it being THEM is their own short-sighted problem.
100% owned by Apple Inc. a US company. What is your point?
Point being that the reason Apple China doesn't make direct political attacks on Chinese leaders and policy is obvious; it has nothing to do with the shareholders being mostly American.
This is what Libertarians wanted. They want businesses to be able to discriminate against anybody they want to.
The free market has spoken, and they said screw homophobes. The fact that they're so far up their own ass in entitlement that they couldn't imagine it being THEM is their own short-sighted problem.
You're moving the goalposts. What rights of gays are threatened if a baker says, "I don't want to make that cake, please try the baker next door"?
46 pages of racist, homophobic bigots trying to justify their abhorrent viewpoint and why they should be allowed to discriminate. To think Apple use to be synonymous with liberal, progressive and inclusiveness... ala "think different".
46 pages of racist, homophobic bigots trying to justify their abhorrent viewpoint and why they should be allowed to discriminate.
To think Apple use to be synonymous with liberal, progressive and inclusiveness... ala "think different".
Indeed.
It's sad that Tim Cook is now making Apple synonymous with tyranny.
Point being that the reason Apple China doesn't make direct political attacks on Chinese leaders and policy is obvious; it has nothing to do with the shareholders being mostly American.
This is what Libertarians wanted. They want businesses to be able to discriminate against anybody they want to....
That's incorrect. Libertarians are pro-freedom and anti-violence and against the use of government to force people to do something they don't want to do.
Of COURSE it's shortsighted when people act irrationally when it comes to race, religion, etc., however as long as no one is attacked or hurt, people should be free to make dumb decisions that harm their own interests, and they should also suffer the consequences of such stupidity, including loss of business, bad online reviews, peaceful protests or shunning/shaming.
I maintain that Apple being a company that serves everyone, their CEO need not toss a hat in a ring that is hopelessly political and a hot-button issue. I think of Apple like Disney, a company that does good by doing good and doesn't bring too much attention to itself on issues outside of their expertise and business focus. Tim is acting like he's running for president recently and if that's something he wants to do, then he should do that.
You're moving the goalposts. What rights of gays are threatened if a baker says, "I don't want to make that cake, please try the baker next door"?
In Indiana, none, because they don't posess equal rights in Indiana. It's a very convenient argument to be able to claim no rights are lost or threatened when they are legally second class citizens who had none to begin with.
Bashing religious people, and asserting that the government at gunpoint will dictate who a shop owner may or may not do business with = "tolerance", is the politically popular stance in THIS country.
Point being that the reason Apple China doesn't make direct political attacks on Chinese leaders and policy is obvious; it has nothing to do with the shareholders being mostly American.
You're having enough trouble defending yourself on the bigotry front. I wouldn't open up another front on this Apple vs. China issue if I were you.
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What you're really saying is that, in your opinion, racism is fine as long as it is complimentary to a race, avoids fields that are taboo and is complimentary to non-white races. That, of course, means that, by definition, you are elevating one race over another in one or more fields.
It would seem that you are happy to say that black people are particularly good at sport, but you are not happy to say that white people are particularly good at being intelligent. Those are the same taboos that the general public would have.
This is the correct approach to the data, of course. IQ tests are designed by literate, print-habituated people with strong left-hemisphere bias. This is not even hinted at being recognized as an impossible bias against people with other cultural histories. It is obvious to anyone even lightly schooled in media-ecology studies. And it's common sense.
Whites on average score 100 in intelligence. Jews tend to score slightly higher, as well as East Asians. Native Americans (both hemispheres) and most others slightly lower. But always, the black race averages about 15 points lower... which is very significant. Google "race bell curve" for images.
What this means is the average white person (or Asian, or Jew) when confronted with a black person can reliably assume they are dealing with somebody with a good deal less intelligence. That is the ugly truth, and no amount of "Jesus loves us all" or "man was created equal" philosophy can change that.
Google "African American Genius". It is very likely that there has never been one (documented)! Not to say that it is impossible, as the Bell Curve stretches to infinity (as the probability decreases). That is why one cannot say ALL blacks have low IQ. As our Bell Curves intersect SOME blacks will have a higher IQ than SOME whites. Some... the dumbest whites and the smartest blacks.
These numbers have been repeated countless times with matching results. That is why IQ is not used anymore. Our masters have just buried the truth instead of dealing with it.
My theory is all the races who left sub-Saharan Africa evolved separately and slightly. It's the only thing that makes sense. It also explains sub-Saharan African's plight everywhere in the world throughout history. They are not just struggling in Africa or America.
Think about it. The Bell Curves are obvious when you look at each race's achievement, social status, temperament, crime rates, wealth... every single demographic aligns with it.
wow, just... wow...
I’ll just say this – it has nothing to do with genes or ability and everything to do with social-economic status. The immigrated jews during wartime who scored low were under socio-economic strife, as are many minorities today including “Native Americans (both hemispheres)” and most importantly – MANY whites. The only difference is prejudice – as you said yourself you “assume they are dealing with somebody with a good deal less intelligence” and yet with your own admission you would assume that a white person would have higher intelligence without actually know if it is true or not. When your day-to-day life is more difficult than average, and you make a lower average wage, it is difficult to focus and prioritize academic excellence. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or cannot be easily achieved given similar opportunity, though. If you need an example of an African American genius, look no further than Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I’m sure the concepts in his head would give you an aneurysm. Also, specific academic intelligence is not a true test of intelligence, just a narrow measurement of a specific skill set that is has been questionable in value for decades as society and it’s demands evolve. Ask any waiter or barista with an associate or masters degree.
You point of view is ridiculous and bias to your prejudice. You have an idea, you look at data that supports it – toss away contradicting theories that don’t fit your narrative then make the claims so broad and generalized that it’s impossible to contradict. Not because it’s correct, but rather that it’s undefined half-truths lacking real context for fear that it will undo your point. The fact that you seem to truly feel this is all honest and true makes you no better than the worst of us – and I look forward to when that last of your kind dies off. And for clarity about what I mean about “your kind”, I mean those of privilege of any race that think they are superior simply for the lucky lot in life they were born into. Who might actually be smart enough understand the world we live in if they only left their bubble.
It might seem that way if you are trolling or not paying attention. I made no claim to any sort of genetic superiority. I think that cultural and environmental factors are the reasons for all these various discrepancies. And I believe that diversity and cross culturalism have led to the biggest human accomplishments.
And you would be correct again. If he replies to you, it will be, as you say, him trolling you. He, "not paying attention"? I am sure he works very hard at finding the break in the skin of your argument where he can inject his virulent spores. Many of us are hoping to ignore him into oblivion.
And you would be correct again. If he replies to you, it will be, as you say, him trolling you. He, "not paying attention"? I am sure he works very hard at finding the break in the skin of your argument where he can inject his virulent spores. Many of us are hoping to ignore him into oblivion.
Yep.
No, actually Apple is a MULTINATIONAL company with headquarters, managers, employees, bank accounts and filing tax returns in MANY countries. China being the second largest and fastest growing. So, Apple China is a Chinese company.
To someone on the other side of this issue, the whole thing feels like bullying. You have tens of millions of s certain class of people (religious folks) being told repetitively that they are stupid, uneducated, having psychotic breaks with reality, etc. However, some of them do have a higher education and can articulate why they disagree with socialism and communism and especially the kind that tries to pretend it is not.
Then imagine for one minute how it's been for gays and their REAL subjugation for centuries.
Have you ever been insulted in the street because you were straight? Fulminated at and told you'd burn in hell by religious ministers because you were straight? Beaten up or killed because you were straight? Told you were about the same level as pedophiles and drunks because you were straight?
Refused access to your sick or dying partner in hospital because you were straight? Chucked out of you and your partner's home of 30 years because you were straight? Had your children taken from you because you were straight? Lost your job because you were straight?
The anti-gay culture has been certifiably pervasive in every day life for centuries. Christians pretending to be bullied now is laughable. They had their chance to be respectable. They've demonstrated an unearned pious entitlement used to feel better about themselves at the expense of others.
Are gays fed up with BEING bullied and treated with equal or worse disdain for their entire lives? Yep. You reap what you sow. Complaining now and feigning victimhood is kind of laughable.
I think Tim Cook's editorial helped force the re-examination.
Apple China is a Chinese company.
100% owned by Apple Inc. a US company. What is your point?
How do we get from someone refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding to 'gays are (going to be) discriminated against? Serious question - how do you justify economically punishing the good people of Indiana over this? What right of gays is being threatened so badly that whole companies need to boycott the state? I am just not seeing it.
This is what Libertarians wanted. They want businesses to be able to discriminate against anybody they want to.
The free market has spoken, and they said screw homophobes. The fact that they're so far up their own ass in entitlement that they couldn't imagine it being THEM is their own short-sighted problem.
100% owned by Apple Inc. a US company. What is your point?
Point being that the reason Apple China doesn't make direct political attacks on Chinese leaders and policy is obvious; it has nothing to do with the shareholders being mostly American.
This is what Libertarians wanted. They want businesses to be able to discriminate against anybody they want to.
The free market has spoken, and they said screw homophobes. The fact that they're so far up their own ass in entitlement that they couldn't imagine it being THEM is their own short-sighted problem.
You're moving the goalposts. What rights of gays are threatened if a baker says, "I don't want to make that cake, please try the baker next door"?
To think Apple use to be synonymous with liberal, progressive and inclusiveness... ala "think different".
Indeed.
It's sad that Tim Cook is now making Apple synonymous with tyranny.
Point being that the reason Apple China doesn't make direct political attacks on Chinese leaders and policy is obvious; it has nothing to do with the shareholders being mostly American.
Obvious they don't want to be thrown in jail.
That's incorrect. Libertarians are pro-freedom and anti-violence and against the use of government to force people to do something they don't want to do.
Of COURSE it's shortsighted when people act irrationally when it comes to race, religion, etc., however as long as no one is attacked or hurt, people should be free to make dumb decisions that harm their own interests, and they should also suffer the consequences of such stupidity, including loss of business, bad online reviews, peaceful protests or shunning/shaming.
I maintain that Apple being a company that serves everyone, their CEO need not toss a hat in a ring that is hopelessly political and a hot-button issue. I think of Apple like Disney, a company that does good by doing good and doesn't bring too much attention to itself on issues outside of their expertise and business focus. Tim is acting like he's running for president recently and if that's something he wants to do, then he should do that.
You're moving the goalposts. What rights of gays are threatened if a baker says, "I don't want to make that cake, please try the baker next door"?
In Indiana, none, because they don't posess equal rights in Indiana. It's a very convenient argument to be able to claim no rights are lost or threatened when they are legally second class citizens who had none to begin with.
Obvious they don't want to be thrown in jail.
Exactly! Or jeopardize their business.
Bashing religious people, and asserting that the government at gunpoint will dictate who a shop owner may or may not do business with = "tolerance", is the politically popular stance in THIS country.
You're having enough trouble defending yourself on the bigotry front. I wouldn't open up another front on this Apple vs. China issue if I were you.