So, these last 2 articles conflict with each other. This one saying "Force Touch is so important, Apple will name the next hardware "iPhone 7'". The one before it saying "Force Touch may be limited to just the larger phone (6s Plus)." Sooooo..... which is it? We won't have both a Force Touch "iPhone 7 Plus" and a non-Force Touch "iPhone 6s" released together.
In fact, I call both predictions bogus. I agree on Force Touch happening, but it will be on both devices. As everyone has already stated in that article's thread: it's a UI change, and they will want it to be on as many devices as possible. So does that mean then that the next phone is worthy to be called "iPhone 7" merely because of Force Touch? No. Why should it? Apple didn't call the iPhone 5s the "iPhone 6" just because they added TouchID to the home button (another UI change). Why should they skip the "6s" and go straight to 7 just for Force Touch?
Keep in mind, too, that developers can't go hog-wild with Force Touch for at least another iPhone generation: those of us who stick to a 2-year upgrade cycle will be on the 6/6 Plus until fall 2016 at the earliest. And fewer people are on the iPhone Xs cycle (4s, 5s) than those on the iPhone X cycle (4, 5, 6/6 Plus). So until the vast majority of iPhone users are on a new iPhone from autumn 2015 (6s / 6s Plus) or autumn 2016 (7 / 7 Plus), developers won't have a large enough user base to justify Force Touch-exclusive features. Yeah they'll do some little things here and there in the meantime, but they can't leave out the non-Force Touch users.
I hope they ditch the numbers. The larger the numbers get the more unwieldy (iPhone 10, iPhone el-e-ven ... gross)
Don't worry, once we hit iPhone 10, we go decimal: 10.1 for the former non-"s" phones (like iPhone 4, 5, 6), 10.1.1 for the "s" phones. Then 10.2, then 10.2.1, and so on. They'll also get named after cats, until iPhone 10.9.
So other than getting rid of home button And making screen edge to edge What other benefit ? Touch ID anywhere?? Larger screen for same exterior?? Gaming?? Can't find an article that explains why this is so revolutionary Your thoughts
So other than getting rid of home button
And making screen edge to edge
What other benefit ?
Touch ID anywhere??
Larger screen for same exterior??
Gaming?? Can't find an article that explains why this is so revolutionary
Your thoughts
because it has potential to significantly change the smartphone (and even laptop) UI and UX vocabulary. The 2007 iPhone brought multi touch gestures to mainstream use. Tap, long tap, pinch-to-zoom became the norm, not only for iOS, but Android and Windows 8. Force Touch and Taptic (haptic feedback) have the potential to add significantly to that. If Apple were shrewd, it would put ForceTouch into their Safari JavaScript interpreter, allowing websites to read Force Touch. That tail could wag the HTML5 dog in the future. Then Android and Windows will be forced to incorporate something similar in the future. Best case: Apple has a unique UX feature that no one else has. Worst case: Apple introduces a widely copied new UX concept that cements their lead and innovation reputation. So win-win for Apple.
No way they are calling a phone with the same shell as the iPhone6 an iPhone7
Who said it will have the same sheel? Further why does it make a difference?
The interesting thing here is that if they are using capacitive technology, the feature might be backwards compatible with to older devices. Currently the capacitive panels already give Apple an idea of the contact area. That might be enough to support this technology right now.
we are talking about iPhones here. Every single new iPhone with a different number designation has been a significant design change. From 3 to 4 to 5 and to 6.
Your logic only holds water if the number portion of the model designation (ie 3,4,5) is meant to refer to the physical look of the case - and yet the 5c has a physical design much different than the 5/5s and they did not change the number - so I don't think your reasoning can be used to support your conclusion with any degree of certainty. I don't think it's fair to say they won't change from 6 to 7 just becuase the outer shell does not look significantly different. If the feature set and capabilities change significantly enough - it's very likely they would skip the 6s model designation and go right to the iPhone 7.
Dude, just when you think they can't make it any better. Is Apple ever gonna step back and say, "well, okay. That's it. We're done. Something else now."?
we are talking about iPhones here. Every single new iPhone with a different number designation has been a significant design change. From 3 to 4 to 5 and to 6.
Dude, just when you think they can't make it any better. Is Apple ever gonna step back and say, "well, okay. That's it. We're done. Something else now."?
Don't worry, once we hit iPhone 10, we go decimal: 10.1 for the former non-"s" phones (like iPhone 4, 5, 6), 10.1.1 for the "s" phones. Then 10.2, then 10.2.1, and so on. They'll also get named after cats, until iPhone 10.9.
because it has potential to significantly change the smartphone (and even laptop) UI and UX vocabulary. The 2007 iPhone brought multi touch gestures to mainstream use. Tap, long tap, pinch-to-zoom became the norm, not only for iOS, but Android and Windows 8. Force Touch and Taptic (haptic feedback) have the potential to add significantly to that. If Apple were shrewd, it would put ForceTouch into their Safari JavaScript interpreter, allowing websites to read Force Touch. That tail could wag the HTML5 dog in the future. Then Android and Windows will be forced to incorporate something similar in the future. Best case: Apple has a unique UX feature that no one else has. Worst case: Apple introduces a widely copied new UX concept that cements their lead and innovation reputation. So win-win for Apple.
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My 4s will finally meet its replacement this year!
Radical! Who knows?
There are times when you need to find the home button by feel, though.
So, these last 2 articles conflict with each other. This one saying "Force Touch is so important, Apple will name the next hardware "iPhone 7'". The one before it saying "Force Touch may be limited to just the larger phone (6s Plus)." Sooooo..... which is it? We won't have both a Force Touch "iPhone 7 Plus" and a non-Force Touch "iPhone 6s" released together.
In fact, I call both predictions bogus. I agree on Force Touch happening, but it will be on both devices. As everyone has already stated in that article's thread: it's a UI change, and they will want it to be on as many devices as possible. So does that mean then that the next phone is worthy to be called "iPhone 7" merely because of Force Touch? No. Why should it? Apple didn't call the iPhone 5s the "iPhone 6" just because they added TouchID to the home button (another UI change). Why should they skip the "6s" and go straight to 7 just for Force Touch?
Keep in mind, too, that developers can't go hog-wild with Force Touch for at least another iPhone generation: those of us who stick to a 2-year upgrade cycle will be on the 6/6 Plus until fall 2016 at the earliest. And fewer people are on the iPhone Xs cycle (4s, 5s) than those on the iPhone X cycle (4, 5, 6/6 Plus). So until the vast majority of iPhone users are on a new iPhone from autumn 2015 (6s / 6s Plus) or autumn 2016 (7 / 7 Plus), developers won't have a large enough user base to justify Force Touch-exclusive features. Yeah they'll do some little things here and there in the meantime, but they can't leave out the non-Force Touch users.
But the iPad Air 2 has basically the same shell as the iPad Air and the mini 3 looks exactly like the mini 2.
The Mini 3 is an exception, and they made a big deal about the iPad Air 2 being so much thinner (remember them lasering off part of a pencil)
I think it unlikely a new number without a new phone case, however, Apple has been inconsistent from time to time
I hope they ditch the numbers. The larger the numbers get the more unwieldy (iPhone 10, iPhone el-e-ven ... gross)
I hope they ditch the numbers. The larger the numbers get the more unwieldy (iPhone 10, iPhone el-e-ven ... gross)
Don't worry, once we hit iPhone 10, we go decimal: 10.1 for the former non-"s" phones (like iPhone 4, 5, 6), 10.1.1 for the "s" phones. Then 10.2, then 10.2.1, and so on.
They'll also get named after cats, until iPhone 10.9.
And making screen edge to edge
What other benefit ?
Touch ID anywhere??
Larger screen for same exterior??
Gaming??
Can't find an article that explains why this is so revolutionary
Your thoughts
What's the hate for the home button?
I think it's a touchstone feature. Makes the iPhone distinct, otherwise, it's a generic iPhone clone.
Smaller MBP has Force Touch, bigger does not.
(Rumor) Larger iPhone 7 will have Force Touch, smaller one will not.
because it has potential to significantly change the smartphone (and even laptop) UI and UX vocabulary. The 2007 iPhone brought multi touch gestures to mainstream use. Tap, long tap, pinch-to-zoom became the norm, not only for iOS, but Android and Windows 8. Force Touch and Taptic (haptic feedback) have the potential to add significantly to that. If Apple were shrewd, it would put ForceTouch into their Safari JavaScript interpreter, allowing websites to read Force Touch. That tail could wag the HTML5 dog in the future. Then Android and Windows will be forced to incorporate something similar in the future. Best case: Apple has a unique UX feature that no one else has. Worst case: Apple introduces a widely copied new UX concept that cements their lead and innovation reputation. So win-win for Apple.
Who said it will have the same sheel? Further why does it make a difference?
The interesting thing here is that if they are using capacitive technology, the feature might be backwards compatible with to older devices. Currently the capacitive panels already give Apple an idea of the contact area. That might be enough to support this technology right now.
we are talking about iPhones here. Every single new iPhone with a different number designation has been a significant design change. From 3 to 4 to 5 and to 6.
5c would be the exception
Then I'm dismayed that it's being reported through the rumor mill. What Kuo and others are doing is tantamount to industrial espionage.
Information wants to be free. Secrets are an unnatural state for information.
It's only industrial espionage if another company can do something with it. The problem is, no one else can.
Dude, just when you think they can't make it any better. Is Apple ever gonna step back and say, "well, okay. That's it. We're done. Something else now."?
ipod touch.
Don't worry, once we hit iPhone 10, we go decimal: 10.1 for the former non-"s" phones (like iPhone 4, 5, 6), 10.1.1 for the "s" phones. Then 10.2, then 10.2.1, and so on.
They'll also get named after cats, until iPhone 10.9.
"these go to eleven"
because it has potential to significantly change the smartphone (and even laptop) UI and UX vocabulary. The 2007 iPhone brought multi touch gestures to mainstream use. Tap, long tap, pinch-to-zoom became the norm, not only for iOS, but Android and Windows 8. Force Touch and Taptic (haptic feedback) have the potential to add significantly to that. If Apple were shrewd, it would put ForceTouch into their Safari JavaScript interpreter, allowing websites to read Force Touch. That tail could wag the HTML5 dog in the future. Then Android and Windows will be forced to incorporate something similar in the future. Best case: Apple has a unique UX feature that no one else has. Worst case: Apple introduces a widely copied new UX concept that cements their lead and innovation reputation. So win-win for Apple.
WOW thanks great insights
Good idea