Already recoginized that, some twenty messages back...
Maybe you should have recognized this before you even posted that it cannot.
Also even though it does not have gps, If you run with the watch and iphone for a few times, it learns your stride so you can get fairly accurate distancing/speed readings leaving the iPhone home from then on. Built in Gps definitely would be better for running though.
1. Hundreds of Kittens are found dead in California every year.
2. Tim Cook lives in California.
3. This means Tim Cook murders Kittens.
1. Apple does not have enough supply to meet demand on product launches.
2. This means Apple artificially throttles supply for marketing purposes.
Seriously. How stupid can we be?
Again the burden of proof is on the accuser. If you accuse Tim Cook of murdering Kittens you better have some solid proof. If you accuse Apple of artificially throttling supply to build up hype you better have some solid proof. And no, third hand information off the record from some random clown at Alfa Romeo does not qualify as solid proof.
I've come to the conclusion that you simply don't read thoroughly. Never have I spoken about previous device releases, nor have I mentioned iPhone. I agree 200% that Apple can't make enough iPhones to satisfy demand.
I NEVER accused anyone of constraining supply or have I stated that IS what they are doing. You are putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting what I said. I said it is possible that supplies could be constrained as a marketing ploy to create buzz and interest with this new, category defining device. Period. There are A LOT of people, both Apple lovers and haters, that don't think the watch will have the appeal of other Apple devices, simply because it still needs more development to become a device we CAN'T live without. Whether they constrain on purpose or supplies are constrained because of demand, there is still an "I want it" mentality created from it.
The random clown from Alfa Romeo was the VP of N. American sales and what he said to me was very interesting because the new Alfa designs have been well received and they have decided to not increase their capacity, choosing to deliver when they can. This is purposely constraining.
Customers interested in learning more about Apple Watch can visit their local Apple Store for a personalized session with a Specialist to try on, fit and size their band, and explore the amazing features of Apple Watch. Customers who want to try on an Apple Watch are encouraged to make an appointment by going to www.apple.com.
Starting Friday, customers [by appointment] can try on Apple Watch, Apple Watch Sport or Apple Watch Edition* to find the model with the size, finish and band to best fit their personal preference and style. Everyone visiting an Apple Store will be able to view all three collections and get hands on with Apple Watch Demo to browse and edit different watch faces, and learn about Apple Watch’s health and fitness features, Digital Touch, Siri®, Apple Pay™** and more.
Currently, the link to make an appointment is not yet available. Obviously, visiting a store and looking at the ?Watch display will be the easy part. However, I would expect there is a limit on how many appointments these Specialist will be able to handle in a course of the day.
The random clown from Alfa Romeo was the VP of N. American sales and what he said to me was very interesting because the new Alfa designs have been well received and they have decided to not increase their capacity, choosing to deliver when they can. This is purposely constraining.
The capital costs of auto manufacturing are very high, which makes the creation of additional capacity to meet marginal demand risky and unappealing. In that business, if marginal demand can be met over time without investing in new capacity then so much the better. The downside risk is that interested customers might go elsewhere in the meantime. Apple does not build or operate their own factories. The constraint is not a desire to avoid the capital costs of expanded capacity, but the limits on existing manufacturing capacity and the ability to expand it quickly enough to meet marginal demand. The contract CE factories and their suppliers can be tapped out. Apple can't simply flip a switch to bring more on line. This reality should not be confused with deliberately constraining supply.
Third hand information off the record from some random clown at Alfa Romeo who is trying to associate his brand with Apple in order to justify his own shady marketing techniques does not qualify as solid proof. Lets just get the guy's motivation on the table while we're having the discussion. And the listener, predisposed to believing such tripe, slurps it up and regurgitates it here on AI. Whichever one of our resident trolls it was, its too far back in the comment thread for me to want to bother identifying. But I think I blocked him, so some good came of his accusation. :-)
I wasn't being a troll, I merely suggested an alternate narrative and passed on other information that I heard. Is that being a troll?? Never said what he said was true. Everything is taken so literal, and God forbid one person's comment or suggestion doesn't align with everyone else's. Break out the stones!
I thought this board was for discussion, not ridicule and outright attacks. Now I know, first hand, why Solipsism (SolipsismX and SolipsismY) has to walk away from this forum every so often. He is probably the most open-minded and objective member of AI and he is very intelligent and well read, which seems to bear no weight on this forum. This used to be the BEST Apple-centric forum on the web. Now, because of a lot of the newer members (and the extreme fanboyism they hold), it has become like all of the others. Sad.
It's also like Groundhog's Day. No matter how many positive Apple posts a member may have made in the past, they are only as good as their last post and all previous comments they have made are forgotten. And if that new, controversial post does not align with the masses, then they are labeled a troll. Such BS.
Tolerance and openness are nil and putting members on the block list is hair-trigger. Classic signs of immaturity.
The capital costs of auto manufacturing are very high, which makes the creation of additional capacity to meet marginal demand risky and unappealing. In that business, if marginal demand can be met over time without investing in new capacity then so much the better. The downside risk is that interested customers might go elsewhere in the meantime. Apple does not build or operate their own factories. The constraint is not a desire to avoid the capital costs of expanded capacity, but the limits on existing manufacturing capacity and the ability to expand it quickly enough to meet marginal demand. The contract CE factories and their suppliers can be tapped out. Apple can't simply flip a switch to bring more on line. This reality should not be confused with deliberately constraining supply.
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
I appreciate your considered comments and good natured wit, if that means anything anymore.
I appreciate your considered comments and good natured wit, if that means anything anymore.
Thank you, it means a lot, really. I guess I'm just getting old and I don't get the new wave crowd and their way of thinking….or NOT thinking.
You've been here a few more years than I have and I appreciate the fact that you know where I'm coming from. I'm far from a troll and I think you know that because…..you use memory and reasoning!
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
My sense they expect demand will probably outstrip supply in the short term, as it does for most Apple products in the weeks following their introduction, and particularly for this product, with the number of variants they will have to keep in the pipeline. What I see as being different here is the hand of Angela Ahrendts as the new head of Apple Retail. She seems to be determined to smooth out this introduction and match as many potential buyers up with product as readily as possible, without the sidewalk circuses that accompanied the last few of them. Honestly I don't think Steve cared much if it looked like the Apple moonies were prepared to scratch each other's eyes out to be first to own the newest tech toy from Apple. Maybe he found that to be exciting, or it stroked his ego. I don't know. But what I do know is Apple is a more grown-up company under Tim Cook. I suspect one of the reasons he hired Ahrendts was for her to transform buying a new Apple product into a more civilized experience. If it works out, this should turn into a permanent change in the way Apple conducts its retail operations. Personally, I am all for it.
You are correct. I'll be interested to see how this is handled in context of large music libraries. I suppose you'll just have to select specific playlists to load onto the watch.
The ?Watch has always been marketed to use away from your iPhone. It will play music, and it will track your fitness, display photos and tell time, all without your iPhone. I won't be any more difficult than organizing a playlist just for the gym on an iPod Shuffle which has the same 2GB capacity, or any other device.
I do have one issue though. By the time I've had my appointment and decided I want to buy one, I have to then order. No problem. It's highly likely that preorders will have been long sold out by then so my desire to actually try the thing out actually penalises me.
I doubt it. These are pre-rorders. Apple is likely planning to assemble a large number of those pre-orders during the two weeks, so unlike the iPhone which is mass produced and sitting in warehouses ready to go within days of the launch date, the watch will have two full weeks to assemble watch configurations to meet the pre-order demand and arrive by the 24th.
If you wait a week to pre-order, yes you'll be penalized. But if you go within the first few days, it seems likely you'll still be able to get one by the 24th. If it's anything like the iPhone, the ship date will start to slip before you can even make it to the ?Store, so then you'll know just how quickly you need to get there. And it seems they do take walk-ins without an appointment. You just may have to wait. And this is why I expect a few lines tomorrow.
I wasn't being a troll, I merely suggested an alternate narrative and passed on other information that I heard. Is that being a troll?? Never said what he said was true. Everything is taken so literal, and God forbid one person's comment or suggestion doesn't align with everyone else's. Break out the stones!
I thought this board was for discussion, not ridicule and outright attacks. Now I know, first hand, why Solipsism (SolipsismX and SolipsismY) has to walk away from this forum every so often. He is probably the most open-minded and objective member of AI and he is very intelligent and well read, which seems to bear no weight on this forum. This used to be the BEST Apple-centric forum on the web. Now, because of a lot of the newer members (and the extreme fanboyism they hold), it has become like all of the others. Sad.
It's also like Groundhog's Day. No matter how many positive Apple posts a member may have made in the past, they are only as good as their last post and all previous comments they have made are forgotten. And if that new, controversial post does not align with the masses, then they are labeled a troll. Such BS.
Tolerance and openness are nil and putting members on the block list is hair-trigger. Classic signs of immaturity.
I do remember that you've contributed fine posts in the past, and I wouldn't confuse you with a troll. Apologies for the treatment I dealt you today, but here's the context. This came up yesterday, the artificial restraint for the sake of demand subject. I'm still pissed off that a regular poster here was tossing it out then.
In my own case, I have less and less tolerance for these tired anti-Apple memes. This one ranks with "Apple is a cult," "they are only a marketing company that never invents anything," and "the fanbois will buy anything with a fruit logo."
In other words, the supply-restraint meme denies that there is a genuine enthusiasm that has nothing to do with irrational herd behavior. It's profoundly misleading about what is going on with the cultural phenomenon that Apple represents. That's problem number one.
Problem number two is the ethical accusation. This kind of game playing with the customer is supposed to be a thing of the past, along with planned obsolescence.
Just tried the 42mm Milanese loop and the 42mm sport.
Definitely prefer the Milanese loop.
Meanwhile, some of my questions were answered.
The sport is noticeably lighter.
The 38mm is definitely too small for my wrist.
The sport band is tricky to put on if you like a snug fit.
I'd be worried about the aluminum and the ion-x glass getting scratched.
The trial units are dummy units and cannot be powered on, so you cannot compare watch faces on your wrist.
The demo units as of this morning are not paired with a demo iPhone, nor are you allowed to pair them with your own iPhone. You are therefore unable to test most apps including maps and the App Store.
You can buy a gift card to use for the preordering process.
When I left the store, I got a push notification on my iPhone reminding me of the preordering process.
One last thing: you can only preorder the exact configurations available in the Apple Watch iPhone app. You cannot, for instance, order the silver colored aluminum Sport with the black band or with the Milanese loop.
I think the sport model in general looks cheap and the black anodized model even cheaper.
Forgot to check if there are any accessories available at this time.
Edit: as of the afternoon, the demo units had an Internet connection and a demo mode for most of the online apps like maps. There was no App Store, however.
I do remember that you've contributed fine posts in the past, and I wouldn't confuse you with a troll. Apologies for the treatment I dealt you today, but here's the context. This came up yesterday, the artificial restraint for the sake of demand subject. I'm still pissed off that a regular poster here was tossing it out then.
In my own case, I have less and less tolerance for these tired anti-Apple memes. This one ranks with "Apple is a cult," "they are only a marketing company that never invents anything," and "the fanbois will buy anything with a fruit logo."
In other words, the supply-restraint meme denies that there is a genuine enthusiasm that has nothing to do with irrational herd behavior. It's profoundly misleading about what is going on with the cultural phenomenon that Apple represents. That's problem number one.
Problem number two is the ethical accusation. This kind of game playing with the customer is supposed to be a thing of the past, along with planned obsolescence.
Thank you for the follow-up. I wasn't aware of the original post(er) so I didn't realize that I was pouring salt on an already open wound.
nope - its out of the question. apple is the most profitable company ever and they got that way by SELLING devices, not trying to generate hype by choosing not to sell devices they could be selling. their CEO has already stated they just can't make things fast enough. there is no sane reason why iPhone 6 delays were weeks and weeks other than manufacturing constraint, as their CEO said.
if you don't get this simple fact (they'd rather be SELLING devices for profit than not selling), then i have to question whether you're in a competent position to own stock.
Please show me in any of my posts where I stated that the iPhone 6 was artificially constrained.
I get it. But the fact is, Apple is going to have to SELL this device more than any other device they've sold if this device is going to be the one eyed to further their growth. Not everyone needs a watch like they do a phone and a LOT of people I know (myself included) just don't wear one. That said, I hope Apple sells a boatload…..every……single…..day.
And you should not question whether I am competent enough to own AAPL stock. When I invested in 1000 shares back in 1997, I did it because I believed in the culture of the company and I believed Steve Jobs could turn around a company that had been so poorly run and managed.
Haven't sold one share since and I now have 28X what I started with.
Actually, on second thought, you can question my competency all you want….because I really don't give a crap.
Thanks for the informative post. Do you happen to know the circumference of your wrist? Mine is around 190mm, which puts me in the range for either the 38mm or 42mm Milanese Loop band. Kind of torn between the two.
I doubt it. These are pre-rorders. Apple is likely planning to assemble a large number of those pre-orders during the two weeks, so unlike the iPhone which is mass produced and sitting in warehouses ready to go within days of the launch date, the watch will have two full weeks to assemble watch configurations to meet the pre-order demand and arrive by the 24th.
If you wait a week to pre-order, yes you'll be penalized. But if you go within the first few days, it seems likely you'll still be able to get one by the 24th. If it's anything like the iPhone, the ship date will start to slip before you can even make it to the ?Store, so then you'll know just how quickly you need to get there. And it seems they do take walk-ins without an appointment. You just may have to wait. And this is why I expect a few lines tomorrow.
Wow. 15 minutes into au preorder and the black sport 42 has a 4-6 week lead time. I pity the fool who needs to see it working first. May as well jump in the queue for v2.
I had no problem ordering the 42mm steel option with Milanese loop, except that I couldn't choose the gift card option through my phone. The staff at the Apple Store helped me order through the web browser, at 3:23pm (12:23am PST). Delivery date was between 4/24 and 5/5. Surprised if I get it before the 27th.
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Already recoginized that, some twenty messages back...
Maybe you should have recognized this before you even posted that it cannot.Also even though it does not have gps, If you run with the watch and iphone for a few times, it learns your stride so you can get fairly accurate distancing/speed readings leaving the iPhone home from then on. Built in Gps definitely would be better for running though.
1. Hundreds of Kittens are found dead in California every year.
2. Tim Cook lives in California.
3. This means Tim Cook murders Kittens.
1. Apple does not have enough supply to meet demand on product launches.
2. This means Apple artificially throttles supply for marketing purposes.
Seriously. How stupid can we be?
Again the burden of proof is on the accuser. If you accuse Tim Cook of murdering Kittens you better have some solid proof. If you accuse Apple of artificially throttling supply to build up hype you better have some solid proof. And no, third hand information off the record from some random clown at Alfa Romeo does not qualify as solid proof.
I've come to the conclusion that you simply don't read thoroughly. Never have I spoken about previous device releases, nor have I mentioned iPhone. I agree 200% that Apple can't make enough iPhones to satisfy demand.
I NEVER accused anyone of constraining supply or have I stated that IS what they are doing. You are putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting what I said. I said it is possible that supplies could be constrained as a marketing ploy to create buzz and interest with this new, category defining device. Period. There are A LOT of people, both Apple lovers and haters, that don't think the watch will have the appeal of other Apple devices, simply because it still needs more development to become a device we CAN'T live without. Whether they constrain on purpose or supplies are constrained because of demand, there is still an "I want it" mentality created from it.
The random clown from Alfa Romeo was the VP of N. American sales and what he said to me was very interesting because the new Alfa designs have been well received and they have decided to not increase their capacity, choosing to deliver when they can. This is purposely constraining.
I am not sure everybody is catching this.
Starting Friday, customers [by appointment] can try on Apple Watch, Apple Watch Sport or Apple Watch Edition* to find the model with the size, finish and band to best fit their personal preference and style. Everyone visiting an Apple Store will be able to view all three collections and get hands on with Apple Watch Demo to browse and edit different watch faces, and learn about Apple Watch’s health and fitness features, Digital Touch, Siri®, Apple Pay™** and more.
Currently, the link to make an appointment is not yet available. Obviously, visiting a store and looking at the ?Watch display will be the easy part. However, I would expect there is a limit on how many appointments these Specialist will be able to handle in a course of the day.
The random clown from Alfa Romeo was the VP of N. American sales and what he said to me was very interesting because the new Alfa designs have been well received and they have decided to not increase their capacity, choosing to deliver when they can. This is purposely constraining.
The capital costs of auto manufacturing are very high, which makes the creation of additional capacity to meet marginal demand risky and unappealing. In that business, if marginal demand can be met over time without investing in new capacity then so much the better. The downside risk is that interested customers might go elsewhere in the meantime. Apple does not build or operate their own factories. The constraint is not a desire to avoid the capital costs of expanded capacity, but the limits on existing manufacturing capacity and the ability to expand it quickly enough to meet marginal demand. The contract CE factories and their suppliers can be tapped out. Apple can't simply flip a switch to bring more on line. This reality should not be confused with deliberately constraining supply.
Third hand information off the record from some random clown at Alfa Romeo who is trying to associate his brand with Apple in order to justify his own shady marketing techniques does not qualify as solid proof. Lets just get the guy's motivation on the table while we're having the discussion. And the listener, predisposed to believing such tripe, slurps it up and regurgitates it here on AI. Whichever one of our resident trolls it was, its too far back in the comment thread for me to want to bother identifying. But I think I blocked him, so some good came of his accusation. :-)
I wasn't being a troll, I merely suggested an alternate narrative and passed on other information that I heard. Is that being a troll?? Never said what he said was true. Everything is taken so literal, and God forbid one person's comment or suggestion doesn't align with everyone else's. Break out the stones!
I thought this board was for discussion, not ridicule and outright attacks. Now I know, first hand, why Solipsism (SolipsismX and SolipsismY) has to walk away from this forum every so often. He is probably the most open-minded and objective member of AI and he is very intelligent and well read, which seems to bear no weight on this forum. This used to be the BEST Apple-centric forum on the web. Now, because of a lot of the newer members (and the extreme fanboyism they hold), it has become like all of the others. Sad.
It's also like Groundhog's Day. No matter how many positive Apple posts a member may have made in the past, they are only as good as their last post and all previous comments they have made are forgotten. And if that new, controversial post does not align with the masses, then they are labeled a troll. Such BS.
Tolerance and openness are nil and putting members on the block list is hair-trigger. Classic signs of immaturity.
The capital costs of auto manufacturing are very high, which makes the creation of additional capacity to meet marginal demand risky and unappealing. In that business, if marginal demand can be met over time without investing in new capacity then so much the better. The downside risk is that interested customers might go elsewhere in the meantime. Apple does not build or operate their own factories. The constraint is not a desire to avoid the capital costs of expanded capacity, but the limits on existing manufacturing capacity and the ability to expand it quickly enough to meet marginal demand. The contract CE factories and their suppliers can be tapped out. Apple can't simply flip a switch to bring more on line. This reality should not be confused with deliberately constraining supply.
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
I appreciate your considered comments and good natured wit, if that means anything anymore.
I appreciate your considered comments and good natured wit, if that means anything anymore.
Thank you, it means a lot, really. I guess I'm just getting old and I don't get the new wave crowd and their way of thinking….or NOT thinking.
You've been here a few more years than I have and I appreciate the fact that you know where I'm coming from. I'm far from a troll and I think you know that because…..you use memory and reasoning!
Thank you. Excellent reply and the type of reply I feel is the whole reason for this forum.
That said, can I ask you if you think the way Apple is handling the release of their watch is because they feel demand is going to be extreme....similar to the iPhone and the original iPad?
And, BTW, thank you for not being insane.
Please take note, fellow AI members. See how civil and educational a forum discussion can be?
No, you don't....because I've been BLOCKED by so many!
My sense they expect demand will probably outstrip supply in the short term, as it does for most Apple products in the weeks following their introduction, and particularly for this product, with the number of variants they will have to keep in the pipeline. What I see as being different here is the hand of Angela Ahrendts as the new head of Apple Retail. She seems to be determined to smooth out this introduction and match as many potential buyers up with product as readily as possible, without the sidewalk circuses that accompanied the last few of them. Honestly I don't think Steve cared much if it looked like the Apple moonies were prepared to scratch each other's eyes out to be first to own the newest tech toy from Apple. Maybe he found that to be exciting, or it stroked his ego. I don't know. But what I do know is Apple is a more grown-up company under Tim Cook. I suspect one of the reasons he hired Ahrendts was for her to transform buying a new Apple product into a more civilized experience. If it works out, this should turn into a permanent change in the way Apple conducts its retail operations. Personally, I am all for it.
The ?Watch has always been marketed to use away from your iPhone. It will play music, and it will track your fitness, display photos and tell time, all without your iPhone. I won't be any more difficult than organizing a playlist just for the gym on an iPod Shuffle which has the same 2GB capacity, or any other device.
So, get my ass up and will preorder 2 Sport sizes. Will return one after trying on.
Apple charges restocking fees. I imagine they will be hefty on the watch considering constrained supply.
I do have one issue though. By the time I've had my appointment and decided I want to buy one, I have to then order. No problem. It's highly likely that preorders will have been long sold out by then so my desire to actually try the thing out actually penalises me.
I doubt it. These are pre-rorders. Apple is likely planning to assemble a large number of those pre-orders during the two weeks, so unlike the iPhone which is mass produced and sitting in warehouses ready to go within days of the launch date, the watch will have two full weeks to assemble watch configurations to meet the pre-order demand and arrive by the 24th.
If you wait a week to pre-order, yes you'll be penalized. But if you go within the first few days, it seems likely you'll still be able to get one by the 24th. If it's anything like the iPhone, the ship date will start to slip before you can even make it to the ?Store, so then you'll know just how quickly you need to get there. And it seems they do take walk-ins without an appointment. You just may have to wait. And this is why I expect a few lines tomorrow.
I do remember that you've contributed fine posts in the past, and I wouldn't confuse you with a troll. Apologies for the treatment I dealt you today, but here's the context. This came up yesterday, the artificial restraint for the sake of demand subject. I'm still pissed off that a regular poster here was tossing it out then.
In my own case, I have less and less tolerance for these tired anti-Apple memes. This one ranks with "Apple is a cult," "they are only a marketing company that never invents anything," and "the fanbois will buy anything with a fruit logo."
In other words, the supply-restraint meme denies that there is a genuine enthusiasm that has nothing to do with irrational herd behavior. It's profoundly misleading about what is going on with the cultural phenomenon that Apple represents. That's problem number one.
Problem number two is the ethical accusation. This kind of game playing with the customer is supposed to be a thing of the past, along with planned obsolescence.
Definitely prefer the Milanese loop.
Meanwhile, some of my questions were answered.
The sport is noticeably lighter.
The 38mm is definitely too small for my wrist.
The sport band is tricky to put on if you like a snug fit.
I'd be worried about the aluminum and the ion-x glass getting scratched.
The trial units are dummy units and cannot be powered on, so you cannot compare watch faces on your wrist.
The demo units as of this morning are not paired with a demo iPhone, nor are you allowed to pair them with your own iPhone. You are therefore unable to test most apps including maps and the App Store.
You can buy a gift card to use for the preordering process.
When I left the store, I got a push notification on my iPhone reminding me of the preordering process.
One last thing: you can only preorder the exact configurations available in the Apple Watch iPhone app. You cannot, for instance, order the silver colored aluminum Sport with the black band or with the Milanese loop.
I think the sport model in general looks cheap and the black anodized model even cheaper.
Forgot to check if there are any accessories available at this time.
Edit: as of the afternoon, the demo units had an Internet connection and a demo mode for most of the online apps like maps. There was no App Store, however.
I do remember that you've contributed fine posts in the past, and I wouldn't confuse you with a troll. Apologies for the treatment I dealt you today, but here's the context. This came up yesterday, the artificial restraint for the sake of demand subject. I'm still pissed off that a regular poster here was tossing it out then.
In my own case, I have less and less tolerance for these tired anti-Apple memes. This one ranks with "Apple is a cult," "they are only a marketing company that never invents anything," and "the fanbois will buy anything with a fruit logo."
In other words, the supply-restraint meme denies that there is a genuine enthusiasm that has nothing to do with irrational herd behavior. It's profoundly misleading about what is going on with the cultural phenomenon that Apple represents. That's problem number one.
Problem number two is the ethical accusation. This kind of game playing with the customer is supposed to be a thing of the past, along with planned obsolescence.
Thank you for the follow-up. I wasn't aware of the original post(er) so I didn't realize that I was pouring salt on an already open wound.
nope - its out of the question. apple is the most profitable company ever and they got that way by SELLING devices, not trying to generate hype by choosing not to sell devices they could be selling. their CEO has already stated they just can't make things fast enough. there is no sane reason why iPhone 6 delays were weeks and weeks other than manufacturing constraint, as their CEO said.
if you don't get this simple fact (they'd rather be SELLING devices for profit than not selling), then i have to question whether you're in a competent position to own stock.
Please show me in any of my posts where I stated that the iPhone 6 was artificially constrained.
I get it. But the fact is, Apple is going to have to SELL this device more than any other device they've sold if this device is going to be the one eyed to further their growth. Not everyone needs a watch like they do a phone and a LOT of people I know (myself included) just don't wear one. That said, I hope Apple sells a boatload…..every……single…..day.
And you should not question whether I am competent enough to own AAPL stock. When I invested in 1000 shares back in 1997, I did it because I believed in the culture of the company and I believed Steve Jobs could turn around a company that had been so poorly run and managed.
Haven't sold one share since and I now have 28X what I started with.
Actually, on second thought, you can question my competency all you want….because I really don't give a crap.
The 38mm is definitely too small for my wrist.
Thanks for the informative post. Do you happen to know the circumference of your wrist? Mine is around 190mm, which puts me in the range for either the 38mm or 42mm Milanese Loop band. Kind of torn between the two.