I think that's the essence of the Google issue with a few Apple fans. They perceive Google as somehow affecting Apple's business negatively.
Generally, I think the objection is that Google copied Apple's innovation and then they turned around to make much of their profit from leveraging their presence on iOS. That, and Google made Steve angry, wouldn't allow turn by turn, got caught being sleazy with the data mining wifi incident and compromised personal security in Safari with some tricky Javascript. All in all, they are considered dishonest in the the eyes of many in the Apple community. It doesn't really have anything to do with financially hurting Apple. If Apple cared about the money they would have sued them, which they haven't, yet.
To those who swear off Google and everything they offer, my only question is, why? There has never been an issue of a mass data breach, and they don't even sell your information. Your information stays private with Google, and they sell ad space and match ads to your demographic themselves. And if it's an issue of NSA, etc., then 1) you think way too highly of yourself if you think the NSA is singling you out and tracking you individually, 2) you're naive to think that if you don't use Google, they can't monitor anything else, and 3) what the heck are you doing that your paranoid of the NSA coming to detain you based on your emails, web searches, and what news articles you read?
Because they absolutely do sell your information to make money and give you very little in return and worst of all you have ZERO control over what they do with your personal information. So I choose to say Hell No to that. How about if your doctors office said we will give you a free physical exam, all we ask for is a sample of your DNA to do with whatever we please. Would you do that?
Because they absolutely do sell your information to make money and give you very little in return and worst of all you have ZERO control over what they do with your personal information. So I choose to say Hell No to that. How about if your doctors office said we will give you a free physical exam, all we ask for is a sample of your DNA to do with whatever we please. Would you do that?
BS.
They don't sell personal data. Period. They may do some things that some folks think shady or at least concerning but that ain't one of 'em.
As far as your other bogus claim that you have no control over what's shared with Google...
If you wish to "control your personal information" associated with your Google account: https://www.google.com/dashboard/
What, you don't have a Google account? Then they probably don't even know who you are in the first place so there's not much to be concerned about IMO. So what about all those searches you do? Those are personal, right? To opt out click the gear icon on the upper right corner of a search results page and go to search history. Click the gear icon again on the upper corner of the Web History page and go to Settings. Then, click the Turn off button next to "Web History is on."
Of course some may like to keep their web history active since it speeds up visits to pages you regularly visit and helps find something you may have looked at earlier and want to revisit... BUT while taking advantage of free Google Search you don't want Google to make any money from it. You like their service but you hate Google themselves. Some folks are like that so try this: https://support.google.com/ads/answer/2662922?hl=en
Note that if you reset cookies then the settings would have to be done again. But there's a way to make the change permanent, depending on your browser. Have a look here: https://www.google.com/settings/ads/plugin
Eric joined Apples board in 2006.
iPhone launched in 2007.
Eric is forced to resign from Apple board by the FTC not at the request of Apples board. So for 3 years he was stealing information from board meetings even though Google had bought Android in 2005 and had displayed before and after versions of the Google phone in 2007 before an actual real model was launched in 2008. So following your reasoning Apples board was f*cling criminally incompetent for keeping Eric on the board for 2 years unless of course as it's on public record Eric reused himself from all discussions that occurred about those products. But that doesn't fit in the narrative that article presents.
To those who swear off Google and everything they offer, my only question is, why? There has never been an issue of a mass data breach, and they don't even sell your information. Your information stays private with Google, and they sell ad space and match ads to your demographic themselves. And if it's an issue of NSA, etc., then 1) you think way too highly of yourself if you think the NSA is singling you out and tracking you individually, 2) you're naive to think that if you don't use Google, they can't monitor anything else, and 3) what the heck are you doing that your paranoid of the NSA coming to detain you based on your emails, web searches, and what news articles you read?
Sure there have been breaches. Gmail is under constant attack and has been broken into by Chinese hackers, for one high-profile example.
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I think that's the essence of the Google issue with a few Apple fans. They perceive Google as somehow affecting Apple's business negatively.
Generally, I think the objection is that Google copied Apple's innovation and then they turned around to make much of their profit from leveraging their presence on iOS. That, and Google made Steve angry, wouldn't allow turn by turn, got caught being sleazy with the data mining wifi incident and compromised personal security in Safari with some tricky Javascript. All in all, they are considered dishonest in the the eyes of many in the Apple community. It doesn't really have anything to do with financially hurting Apple. If Apple cared about the money they would have sued them, which they haven't, yet.
Here is one of many articles on Apple / Google history (not from Google's revisionist department), it seems pretty close to how I recall the events.
http://gizmodo.com/5941817/what-really-made-steve-jobs-so-angry-about-google
To those who swear off Google and everything they offer, my only question is, why? There has never been an issue of a mass data breach, and they don't even sell your information. Your information stays private with Google, and they sell ad space and match ads to your demographic themselves. And if it's an issue of NSA, etc., then 1) you think way too highly of yourself if you think the NSA is singling you out and tracking you individually, 2) you're naive to think that if you don't use Google, they can't monitor anything else, and 3) what the heck are you doing that your paranoid of the NSA coming to detain you based on your emails, web searches, and what news articles you read?
Because they absolutely do sell your information to make money and give you very little in return and worst of all you have ZERO control over what they do with your personal information. So I choose to say Hell No to that. How about if your doctors office said we will give you a free physical exam, all we ask for is a sample of your DNA to do with whatever we please. Would you do that?
They don't sell personal data. Period. They may do some things that some folks think shady or at least concerning but that ain't one of 'em.
As far as your other bogus claim that you have no control over what's shared with Google...
If you wish to "control your personal information" associated with your Google account: https://www.google.com/dashboard/
Maybe you want to go all the way and delete your Google account altogether.
https://plus.google.com/downgrade/
What, you don't have a Google account? Then they probably don't even know who you are in the first place so there's not much to be concerned about IMO. So what about all those searches you do? Those are personal, right? To opt out click the gear icon on the upper right corner of a search results page and go to search history. Click the gear icon again on the upper corner of the Web History page and go to Settings. Then, click the Turn off button next to "Web History is on."
Of course some may like to keep their web history active since it speeds up visits to pages you regularly visit and helps find something you may have looked at earlier and want to revisit... BUT while taking advantage of free Google Search you don't want Google to make any money from it. You like their service but you hate Google themselves. Some folks are like that so try this:
https://support.google.com/ads/answer/2662922?hl=en
Note that if you reset cookies then the settings would have to be done again. But there's a way to make the change permanent, depending on your browser. Have a look here:
https://www.google.com/settings/ads/plugin
So much for another piece of FUD.
iPhone launched in 2007.
Eric is forced to resign from Apple board by the FTC not at the request of Apples board. So for 3 years he was stealing information from board meetings even though Google had bought Android in 2005 and had displayed before and after versions of the Google phone in 2007 before an actual real model was launched in 2008. So following your reasoning Apples board was f*cling criminally incompetent for keeping Eric on the board for 2 years unless of course as it's on public record Eric reused himself from all discussions that occurred about those products. But that doesn't fit in the narrative that article presents.
Sure there have been breaches. Gmail is under constant attack and has been broken into by Chinese hackers, for one high-profile example.