Yeah, I was surprised about that too. Probably something they will just add to them the night before, when they implement the new systems. My local Trader Joe's only got the new POSTs last month, and I was disappointed to see they were the same "spongy" type keys that they have at the Ralph's grocery chain. Pressing the buttons feels very unsteady. But that will be a thing of the past with ?Pay, so now I'm much happier! I wonder when Ralph's will get around to accepting ?Pay? I don't shop much there, but at least once a month I pick up a few things Trader Joe's doesn't have.
FWIW, Trader Joe's is actually owned by (or at least parent company is) Aldi, based in Germany. I looked it up and was surprised to find that Aldi has owned them since 1979. This would explain why some of my relatives traveling in Germany reported finding some items at the grocery store there with the Trader Joe's brand packaging.
Coulombe sold Trader Joe's in 1979 but he remained CEO and little was changed in the way it was operated until after he retired in 1988. That's when the chain was expanded outside of California.
flaneur wrote: »
Good news. Trader Joe's was such a holdout on barcode readers, I was wondering how soon they would move into "airpay" POS systems of any kind.
their dark chocolate peanut butter cups are AMAZING
They were walking up and down, giving those out to people waiting in line last time I was there.
Yes, they're good.
In keeping with tradition, once everybody starts to like using Apple Pay at TJ's, they will discontinue it.
rredapple wrote: »
I work for Trader Joe's. We go live with ?pay on Wednesday May 20th. Company wide.
Right, but are the chip readers built into those POSTs, or is there some add on equipment for those credit cards, once such cards actually start getting issued in any significant numbers, which I assume will be closer to October 15. I just had a Capital One credit card replaced last month (expiring 2018) which did not have a chip embedded into it, which I thought was quite strange so close to the October deadline.
theirongiant wrote: »
It's safe to assume that if a store has upgraded from the ingenico POS terminals with resistive touch screens, to the giant Verifone terminals with capacitive touch screens, those stores now support contactless payment. The Verifone terminals have NFC readers inside.
Luv shopping at Trader Joe's and can't wait to use ApplePay there. Albertsons is also on the list to take ApplePay soon. Tried it at a terminal yesterday and it worked!
Unfortunately chip and pin has ben hacked , it is not as secure as its touted to be! The most secure method is network tokenization like Apple implemented
Chip and PIN is vulnerable , apparently the encoding is weak, The latest vulnerability which has been published allows hackers to hack the chip and PIN system. The flaw is in the random number generator which is used by millions of users each day. Fair to say it better than the former POS readers though
Not really. According to the vice president of risk management policy for the American Bankers Association, in terms of rollout, they expect about 50 percent of banks and retailers to be completely transitioned over. The estimates are that by the end of 2015, approximately 70 percent of credit cards and 40 percent of debit cards in the U.S. --1.1 billion cards total -- will support EMV. There's going to be varied customer experiences over the first year, year-and-a-half of this transition. Moreover, they estimate it will take up to three years to achieve true chip and pin, with chip and signature being the most common experience for most consumers. ATMs won't be required until 2016, and Pay at the pump readers won't accommodate them until 2017. Also, even though merchants will be liable for any fraudulent transactions if they haven't upgraded, if the bank hasn’t issued a chip and PIN card to the customer, the bank would be liable. Considering by the end of 2015 only about 70% of credit cards and 40% of debit cards will be issued, and realistically it will be less, there's no great rush for many merchants to be in full compliance until well into 2016. I was just issued a new CapitalOne credit card last month to replace my expiring one, and it does not have a chip. In fact many experts think that during the 2-3 year transition, that this threat of liability shift compliance will not happen and liability for the merchant will remain mostly as is, which could lead to a few holdouts past the October deadline.
So I wouldn't expect to see ?Pay really take off until after the iPhone 6S comes out, the launch for which will likely focus on how many ?Pay partners Apple has amassed, how ubiquitous the accommodation has become by retailers, and the upgrade by many previous generation iPhone owners to NFC capable handsets. Chip and Signature is going to be much more cumbersome and time consuming than the current swipe and signature, so until consumers are forced into using the new system, they won't see the benefit to using ?Pay in the same way.