Not too well thought out like the Apple Watch. Beautiful design. But, totally unnecessary $40 expenditure to charge the phone. Thing is I began limiting the accessories I buy for the iPhone because the design spec changes on a yearly basis and I'm left with the "junk" from iPhones past. Don't we all have patch plugs and cords from the larger connector to the smaller, longer, shorter, etc?
I get tired of tossing tech.
This isn't required to charge the phone, and has many more benefits, like always being able to easily see and interact with the screen. Also, it works with iPhone 5/5s/5c/6/6+ as well as most likely with the upcoming 6S, so that's 4 generations of phones and 6 physical models. So you post is pretty much bullshit. This is an option for people, noone is putting a gun to your head and requiring you to buy it, nor is anyone asking that you "toss" tech.
Not too well thought out like the Apple Watch. Beautiful design. But, totally unnecessary $40 expenditure to charge the phone. Thing is I began limiting the accessories I buy for the iPhone because the design spec changes on a yearly basis and I'm left with the "junk" from iPhones past. Don't we all have patch plugs and cords from the larger connector to the smaller, longer, shorter, etc?
I get tired of tossing tech.
This isn't required to charge the phone, and has many more benefits, like always being able to easily see and interact with the screen. Also, it works with iPhone 5/5s/5c/6/6+ as well as most likely with the upcoming 6S, so that's 4 generations of phones and 6 physical models. So you post is pretty much bullshit. This is an option for people, noone is putting a gun to your head and requiring you to buy it, nor is anyone asking that you "toss" tech.
From an informative POV, your post is informative. Which is in stark contrast to ron's.
From an informative POV, your post is informative. Which is in stark contrast to ron's.
Thank you. My posts are often strongly worded against what I believe to be piss-poor posts, but I always make sure to backup my words/opinion with hard facts and no bullshit.
Not too well thought out like the Apple Watch. Beautiful design. But, totally unnecessary $40 expenditure to charge the phone. Thing is I began limiting the accessories I buy for the iPhone because the design spec changes on a yearly basis and I'm left with the "junk" from iPhones past. Don't we all have patch plugs and cords from the larger connector to the smaller, longer, shorter, etc?
I get tired of tossing tech.
Well, apple have changed the connector on the entire 'i' range of devices once in their entire history, so not sure why you're expecting some drastic change? (design spec changes on a yearly basis? really?!) The headphones that worked 10 years ago with your clunky iPod will still work with your iPhone 6, and an inexpensive adapter converts your lighting to 15-pin. I think it's incredible well thought out, just like the Apple Watch.
Just wondering - apart from form fitting covers, what 'junk' are you left with from iPhone past?
My only issue with the apple docks is that you can't plug in your headphones for handsfree.
I purchased a dock that is slightly elevated so the headphone jack is still accessible, it holds the phone with minimal support, while it hasn't harmed the phone, I'm still concerned that it's going to do some damage.
from the description: "The iPhone Lightning Dock features an audio line-out port that connects to powered speakers. It supports headphones that include a remote control."
This isn't required to charge the phone, and has many more benefits, like always being able to easily see and interact with the screen. Also, it works with iPhone 5/5s/5c/6/6+ as well as most likely with the upcoming 6S, so that's 4 generations of phones and 6 physical models. So you post is pretty much bullshit. This is an option for people, noone is putting a gun to your head and requiring you to buy it, nor is anyone asking that you "toss" tech.
Yes getting rid of the tightly fitted slot offers flexibility for more models (and leaving cases on if that's necessary), I'm a little concerned it puts a lot of strain on that small attachment point then: both the plug and the phone's port....
from the description: "The iPhone Lightning Dock features an audio line-out port that connects to powered speakers. It supports headphones that include a remote control."
Yes, one of the reasons it costs so much, it has a built in D/A audio converter, so there's that. People always seem to overlook the added value Apple typically offers. The lightning A/V adapters got a similar bum wrap for being so expensive, despite what they were offering.
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Yes getting rid of the tightly fitted slot offers flexibility for more models (and leaving cases on if that's necessary), I'm a little concerned it puts a lot of strain on that small attachment point then: both the plug and the phone's port....
I'm with you. Seems like it would not be hard to snap that connector off. I've knocked my docked phone off the table before, but the 30 pin connector generally comes apart easily and/or the recess keeps them mated. Not sure the same would be the case here. But I'm sure Apple tested it ... probably even why the lightning connector was designed so ruggedly in the first place. I've seen lots of third party docks which have been around for a while which I had rejected because they had this kind of unsupported connection, but now I may have to reconsider them.
Can't say I love this design from Apple. But it should be fairly easy to attach it to a very heavy base that allows the phone to be lifted off the dock with one hand -- virtually impossible to do at the moment. Might be worth the upgrade for my 5S dock, which is currently incompatible with my girlfriend's 5c (she has to charge it backwards).
Well, there you go. A review of a product used for 1 or 2 days will definitely highlight all of the long term problems caused by stress on the plug and socket. C'mon! This is the same guy who says it's a good idea to use it for an iPad too. Try it. Plug a lightning connector into your iPad, hold it purely by the connector and tip the iPad back the same amount. Feel the amount of force through the connector.
This is the same guy who says it's a good idea to use it for an iPad too. Try it. Plug a lightning connector into your iPad, hold it purely by the connector and tip the iPad back the same amount. Feel the amount of force through the connector.
Well, Apple says it's designed for an iPhone, also compatible for the 5th gen iPod touch. Knowing Apple hardware, this won't break with normal use.
C'mon! This is the same guy who says it's a good idea to use it for an iPad too. Try it. Plug a lightning connector into your iPad, hold it purely by the connector and tip the iPad back the same amount. Feel the amount of force through the connector.
Actually he doesn't ... he says it works with an iPad, but anything outside of a mini is probably not a good idea as the base tips. So, no, not a good idea. I haven't seen an iPad dock that didn't have some sort of support. Unless Apple releases one, I'd say you're right, the lightning connector alone shouldn't support a device the size of an iPad without a support. But clearly Apple did some testing before they just released this dock which customers would return in droves if it broke easily. Indeed, the dock will likely tip over before the phone breaks it off. The ability to pull the phone off in any direction (unlike the 5 dock), while holding down the base with force, is a cause for concern to me, as it will likely put more torque on the connectors than just pulling it straight up. Again, I trust Apple did some testing here (probably a reason for the delay to market), and the connectors are rated for a substantial number of uses, probably well past the realistic life of the device, but if it fails this will be the likely reason.
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I think he means he had to diss his old dock as that one doesn't work with the 6/6+.
This new dock does work with the 5/5s/5c/6/6+ and iPod touch 5th gen.
Not too well thought out like the Apple Watch. Beautiful design. But, totally unnecessary $40 expenditure to charge the phone. Thing is I began limiting the accessories I buy for the iPhone because the design spec changes on a yearly basis and I'm left with the "junk" from iPhones past. Don't we all have patch plugs and cords from the larger connector to the smaller, longer, shorter, etc?
I get tired of tossing tech.
This isn't required to charge the phone, and has many more benefits, like always being able to easily see and interact with the screen. Also, it works with iPhone 5/5s/5c/6/6+ as well as most likely with the upcoming 6S, so that's 4 generations of phones and 6 physical models. So you post is pretty much bullshit. This is an option for people, noone is putting a gun to your head and requiring you to buy it, nor is anyone asking that you "toss" tech.
From an informative POV, your post is informative. Which is in stark contrast to ron's.
From an informative POV, your post is informative. Which is in stark contrast to ron's.
Thank you. My posts are often strongly worded against what I believe to be piss-poor posts, but I always make sure to backup my words/opinion with hard facts and no bullshit.
6S.
I’m actually worried about it not being recessed. I sort of don’t trust the connector to hold it up itself.
Not too well thought out like the Apple Watch. Beautiful design. But, totally unnecessary $40 expenditure to charge the phone. Thing is I began limiting the accessories I buy for the iPhone because the design spec changes on a yearly basis and I'm left with the "junk" from iPhones past. Don't we all have patch plugs and cords from the larger connector to the smaller, longer, shorter, etc?
I get tired of tossing tech.
Well, apple have changed the connector on the entire 'i' range of devices once in their entire history, so not sure why you're expecting some drastic change? (design spec changes on a yearly basis? really?!) The headphones that worked 10 years ago with your clunky iPod will still work with your iPhone 6, and an inexpensive adapter converts your lighting to 15-pin. I think it's incredible well thought out, just like the Apple Watch.
Just wondering - apart from form fitting covers, what 'junk' are you left with from iPhone past?
My only issue with the apple docks is that you can't plug in your headphones for handsfree.
I purchased a dock that is slightly elevated so the headphone jack is still accessible, it holds the phone with minimal support, while it hasn't harmed the phone, I'm still concerned that it's going to do some damage.
from the description: "The iPhone Lightning Dock features an audio line-out port that connects to powered speakers. It supports headphones that include a remote control."
This isn't required to charge the phone, and has many more benefits, like always being able to easily see and interact with the screen. Also, it works with iPhone 5/5s/5c/6/6+ as well as most likely with the upcoming 6S, so that's 4 generations of phones and 6 physical models. So you post is pretty much bullshit. This is an option for people, noone is putting a gun to your head and requiring you to buy it, nor is anyone asking that you "toss" tech.
Yes getting rid of the tightly fitted slot offers flexibility for more models (and leaving cases on if that's necessary), I'm a little concerned it puts a lot of strain on that small attachment point then: both the plug and the phone's port....
from the description: "The iPhone Lightning Dock features an audio line-out port that connects to powered speakers. It supports headphones that include a remote control."
Yes, one of the reasons it costs so much, it has a built in D/A audio converter, so there's that. People always seem to overlook the added value Apple typically offers. The lightning A/V adapters got a similar bum wrap for being so expensive, despite what they were offering.
Yes getting rid of the tightly fitted slot offers flexibility for more models (and leaving cases on if that's necessary), I'm a little concerned it puts a lot of strain on that small attachment point then: both the plug and the phone's port....
I'm with you. Seems like it would not be hard to snap that connector off. I've knocked my docked phone off the table before, but the 30 pin connector generally comes apart easily and/or the recess keeps them mated. Not sure the same would be the case here. But I'm sure Apple tested it ... probably even why the lightning connector was designed so ruggedly in the first place. I've seen lots of third party docks which have been around for a while which I had rejected because they had this kind of unsupported connection, but now I may have to reconsider them.
Can't say I love this design from Apple. But it should be fairly easy to attach it to a very heavy base that allows the phone to be lifted off the dock with one hand -- virtually impossible to do at the moment. Might be worth the upgrade for my 5S dock, which is currently incompatible with my girlfriend's 5c (she has to charge it backwards).
If that were the case, why did Apple design and starts to sell this Dock? Oh, I see, it was a rhetorical question.
Because Apple have made a mistake.
Nope: see below
Apparently not. 9to5 tested it, and posted their review:
http://9to5mac.com/2015/05/20/review-apples-iphone-lightning-dock-plays-nice-with-iphones-cases-and-even-ipads/
Nope: see below
Apparently not. 9to5 tested it, and posted their review:
http://9to5mac.com/2015/05/20/review-apples-iphone-lightning-dock-plays-nice-with-iphones-cases-and-even-ipads/
Well, there you go. A review of a product used for 1 or 2 days will definitely highlight all of the long term problems caused by stress on the plug and socket. C'mon! This is the same guy who says it's a good idea to use it for an iPad too. Try it. Plug a lightning connector into your iPad, hold it purely by the connector and tip the iPad back the same amount. Feel the amount of force through the connector.
Well, Apple says it's designed for an iPhone, also compatible for the 5th gen iPod touch. Knowing Apple hardware, this won't break with normal use.
C'mon! This is the same guy who says it's a good idea to use it for an iPad too. Try it. Plug a lightning connector into your iPad, hold it purely by the connector and tip the iPad back the same amount. Feel the amount of force through the connector.
Actually he doesn't ... he says it works with an iPad, but anything outside of a mini is probably not a good idea as the base tips. So, no, not a good idea. I haven't seen an iPad dock that didn't have some sort of support. Unless Apple releases one, I'd say you're right, the lightning connector alone shouldn't support a device the size of an iPad without a support. But clearly Apple did some testing before they just released this dock which customers would return in droves if it broke easily. Indeed, the dock will likely tip over before the phone breaks it off. The ability to pull the phone off in any direction (unlike the 5 dock), while holding down the base with force, is a cause for concern to me, as it will likely put more torque on the connectors than just pulling it straight up. Again, I trust Apple did some testing here (probably a reason for the delay to market), and the connectors are rated for a substantial number of uses, probably well past the realistic life of the device, but if it fails this will be the likely reason.